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(11-15-2025, 05:55 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Is Trump supposed to save us from the slaughter?
Do you really think he will? I think it's more likely that he'll round up all the violently radicalized evil leftist Manchurian Candidates puppets, perhaps in some place like Arizona where their rehabilitation can be evaluated, so that tribunals can strip their citizenship and deport them to Venezuela. I'll have to read Project 2025 and NSPM-7 again to see if I can find more details for you though.
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(11-15-2025, 04:22 AM)chr0naut Wrote: Why should it be up to me to furnish proof?
You make accusations but then refuse to offer proof to back up those accusations.
Sounds very fascist to me.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
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(11-15-2025, 07:42 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Do you really think he will? I think it's more likely that he'll round up all the violently radicalized evil leftist Manchurian Candidates puppets, perhaps in some place like Arizona where their rehabilitation can be evaluated, so that tribunals can strip their citizenship and deport them to Venezuela. I'll have to read Project 2025 and NSPM-7 again to see if I can find more details for you though.
Hellyeah
That’s my President!
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11-15-2025, 09:04 PM
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(11-15-2025, 08:33 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Hellyeah
That’s my President! [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmilies/horns.gif]
So, do you think the sequence is 1) Trump can't suppress the Epstein slander, then 2) Trump is unjustly impeached or forced to resign, then 3) Vance becomes President, then 4) Vance appoints MTG as vice-President, then 5) the fun starts: "you crazy Dems destroyed a good man, we will have our revenge!"
She's already being positioning for the play.
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(10-24-2025, 10:51 AM)PorkChop96 Wrote: So, he filed a lawsuit he cannot afford to go through with, so he expects other people to fund that for him? All just so that Melania did not file her suit first and tie this up in court and cost him money, that he does not have. Sounds like a brilliant idea.....s/
His lawyers came up with that to make sure he could pay for his lawsuit when he loses. I am sure the lawyers will love this job, it will allow them to retire while still losing the case....because he really did defame her.
Although, maybe that go fund me money can be used to try to bribe a judge or something.
Actually, he may be suing a victim of Epstein who is trying to protect her reputation. what kind of person would go after someone who might be a victim of a pedaphile?
If he were to win, it will create precedence so that victims can be sued by someone who writes lies about them to profit from disinformation.
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(11-15-2025, 09:04 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: So, do you think the sequence is 1) Trump can't suppress the Epstein slander, then 2) Trump is unjustly impeached or forced to resign, then 3) Vance becomes President, then 4) Vance appoints MTG as vice-President, then 5) the fun starts: "you crazy Dems destroyed a good man, we will have our revenge!"
She's already being positioning for the play.
Teflon Don's not going anywhere
He's ordained by God
He'll keep demonizing Democrats to appease his base
Maybe He'll throw you a scrap or two from the Epstein files
Something juicy for you to salivate over and use against liberals
Nothing too incriminating, just enough to foment chaos
While he and his associates continue building their digital empire
Veal cutlets for all
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(11-16-2025, 01:17 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Teflon Don's not going anywhere
He's ordained by God
He'll keep demonizing Democrats to appease his base
Maybe He'll throw you a scrap or two from the Epstein files
Something juicy for you to salivate over and use against liberals
Nothing too incriminating, just enough to foment chaos
While he and his associates continue building their digital empire
Veal cutlets for all
Well God is sovereign but I've learned not to put too much stock in my own predictions. After all, look where we are. You're probably right I think though, I was a bit caught up with the idea of a Vance/Greene team-up. Hahaha! Maybe 2028. Oops I mean maybe 2032? Nothing is certain. The social media techbros seem pretty solid Blue? Musk doesn't count; he's a glorified contractor. The Red cryptopunks seem mostly focused on how the traditional money is going to adapt to digital economy. Lots of grift to be made in that, stablecoin and such. But as mentioned, red/blue don't really make sense at that level, purple is where it's at, the traditional colour of royalty hmm.
There may be some scraps about the Dems bouncing off the Epstein deflection, after all look at how they're finally mentioning Clinton, even if they had to shove it down Don's throat. Best to avoid the poisoned bread crumbs in my opinion. There might be a new scandal or two with vague tie-ins though, just to keep the ball rolling. You're right.
No veal for you! Please.
What do you think is going to be hot in the month before the midterms? That's usually the focus point. It seems so far away. Can you believe it's only been just under 10 months of Trump in office? We've got that long again until the midterms.
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(11-15-2025, 07:42 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Do you really think he will? I think it's more likely that he'll round up all the violently radicalized evil leftist Manchurian Candidates puppets, perhaps in some place like Arizona where their rehabilitation can be evaluated, so that tribunals can strip their citizenship and deport them to Venezuela. I'll have to read Project 2025 and NSPM-7 again to see if I can find more details for you though.
Many of those who once voted for Trump, voted instead, for Biden. Then, at the next election, it swung back to Trump. Currently it appears that very many Americans would not vote for Trump. Things may change backwards and forwards in the frequent ups and downs of the great popularity contests.
Trump's tariffs are already driving prices up and causing shortages. Apparently tariffs of over $2billion that were to have been levied against the little country of New Zealand where I reside, have just been dropped. And why? Because the USA does not grow enough beef to feed its own domestic market. Nor does it produce enough dairy products of its own, nor does it grow some crops like Kiwifruit.
Remember the great dust belt? All it takes is a little bad weather and food production in the country dries up, like it has done before.
I reckon that the truth is that there are hardly any radicalized Manchurian Candidate leftist puppets in the US, and any attempt to remove those who may have at some time not voted for one side or another in the game of US politics, will be the death blow for the nation of the USA.
Perhaps things don't have to even go that far and particularly stupid people pushing unsound and unworkable policies will tip the country into dissolution well before then, and all the money in the economy, and all overseas investment, dries up.
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11-16-2025, 06:24 AM
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(11-16-2025, 04:05 AM)chr0naut Wrote: Many of those who once voted for Trump, voted instead, for Biden. Then, at the next election, it swung back to Trump. Currently it appears that very many Americans would not vote for Trump. Things may change backwards and forwards in the frequent ups and downs of the great popularity contests.
Thank you this is a well though-out comment and I appreciate that, even where I disagree. I disagree about the totality of the economic impact of tariffs, because I see multilateral trade configurations as much more complex than what the market immediately prices for. We're changing the configuration of trade world-wide, and that's important. It might not immediately be obvious how India exporting more of their yarn to Bangladesh rather than China affects the price of copper, but it does. It will take a while for things to shake out and the markets, domestic and international, to adjust. I'm not sure Kamala would have been an economic genius in alternative, either, to put it mildly. It's not like Trump inherited a smoothly-running machine. Although I believe they're both largely beholden to larger forces. But yeah, things aren't great yet, so your point is valid.
Also it would be cultural-appropriation for the United States to grow Kiwifruit, so of course we don't do that.
As to the points of political and social change, I think you're greatly underestimating the resilience of the American People and the flexibility of the US Constitution. We've got a system that flexibly handles both great central power and diverse conditions of individual States. We've survived civil wars and world wars; a purge of corruption or even a little interregnum isn't going to knock us off the tracks. And please don't forget that the puppets in question are also violent and evil.
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11-16-2025, 06:33 AM
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(11-16-2025, 06:24 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Thank you this is a well though-out comment and I appreciate that, even where I disagree. I disagree about the totality of the economic impact of tariffs, because I see multilateral trade configurations as much more complex than what the market immediately prices for. We're changing the configuration of trade world-wide, and that's important. It might not immediately be obvious how India exporting more of their yarn to Bangladesh rather than China affects the price of copper, but it does. It will take a while for things to shake out and the markets, domestic and international, to adjust. I'm not sure Kamala would have been an economic genius in alternative, either, to put it mildly. It's not like Trump inherited a smoothly-running machine. Although I believe they're both largely beholden to larger forces. But yeah, things aren't great yet, so your point is valid.
Also it would be cultural-appropriation for the United States to grow Kiwifruit, so of course we don't do that. 
As to the points of political and social change, I think you're greatly underestimating the resilience of the American People and the flexibility of the US Constitution. We've got a system that flexibly handles both great central power and diverse conditions of individual States. We've survived civil wars and world wars; a purge of corruption or even a little interregnum isn't going to knock us off the tracks. And please don't forget that the puppets in question are also violent and evil.
The people are getting smarter, just how long do you think they will allow this "wash, rinse, repeat" political nonsense to go on?
Trump promised affordability and from I see there is no affordability to be had.
"The only journey is the one within."
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