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(10-25-2025, 07:03 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: Biden's scum
Obama's scum
Clinton's scum
They're all criminals and liars
And evidently, no one will face any consequences
Agreed. Most politicians are criminals and/or corrupt.
Many are incompetent. Nearly all are liars.
Republican or Democrat .. doesn't matter.
POTUS, VPOTUS, Congress, Senate ... USA, UK, Canada, Europe, Middle East ...
All around the world it's the same story. And they all get away with it.
That being said ... Wollf made a statement with nothing to back it up.
At this point, he's just a liar and an opportunist ... no better than the politicians.
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(10-25-2025, 06:51 AM)quintessentone Wrote: That thought crossed my mind too, that Melania was trafficked early on in her modelling career because as the other models stated that they had to sleep with the boss and who knows who else to get any type of work (lesbian nude modelling). I do think that Trump and her had (and still does, perhaps, unless those are doppelgangers appearing with Trump) a transactional relationship as that would fit into their psychological make-ups, so to speak.
If you do a deep dive into the modeling business and listen to stories from survivors,
You can easily see that modeling is simply a front for trafficking and/or prostitution
Run by sleazy, wealthy abusive"men" like Trump, Epstein, etc..who see women as product---cattle
Chances are Melania may have been passed around...coming from a poor or middle class upbringing in a northern European country then working up the ranks of modeling as quickly as she did
In order to get into Trump's circle
Yes, I'd say she and Trump have a transactional marriage
He wanted someone young, beautiful, easily dominated and wouldn't divorce him for half
I wouldn't say she's having regrets considering she probably got the life she dreamed of
But now she's got this job she didn't ask for on top of having to tolerate him
Her smiles are forced, now
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(10-25-2025, 07:14 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Agreed. Most politicians are criminals and/or corrupt.
Many are incompetent. Nearly all are liars.
Republican or Democrat .. doesn't matter.
POTUS, VPOTUS, Congress, Senate ... USA, UK, Canada, Europe, Middle East ...
All around the world it's the same story. And they all get away with it.
That being said ... Wollf made a statement with nothing to back it up.
At this point, he's just a liar and an opportunist ... no better than the politicians.
That's not true. Wolff says Epstein stated it and he has the recordings to prove it. The thing is, it will be up to Melania to prove that Wolff repeated what Epstein said was indeed a lie by Epstein and that Wolff did it knowing it was a lie. How will she/her lawyers go about proving that?
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(10-25-2025, 07:21 AM)quintessentone Wrote: That's not true. Wolff says Epstein stated it and he has the recordings to prove it.
Wollf has produced NOTHING. Just made accusations. And even if he had a tape with Epstein on it, there is no proof that Epstein told the truth. Melania knows where she and Donald 'did the dirty'. She's the first hand witness.
The left are drooling over gossip.
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(10-25-2025, 07:14 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: If you do a deep dive into the modeling business and listen to stories from survivors,
You can easily see that modeling is simply a front for trafficking and/or prostitution
Run by sleazy, wealthy abusive"men" like Trump, Epstein, etc..who see women as product---cattle
Chances are Melania may have been passed around...coming from a poor or middle class upbringing in a northern European country then working up the ranks of modeling as quickly as she did
In order to get into Trump's circle
Yes, I'd say she and Trump have a transactional marriage
He wanted someone young, beautiful, easily dominated and wouldn't divorce him for half
I wouldn't say she's having regrets considering she probably got the life she dreamed of
But now she's got this job she didn't ask for on top of having to tolerate him
Her smiles are forced, now
I find it strange that Putin would televise a nude Melania tape the day after Trump became President. Is Melania trying to redesign her image and have any rumblings of her lewd past suppressed? Maybe she has gotten too big for her kneehigh boots.
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(10-25-2025, 07:25 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Wollf has produced NOTHING. Just made accusations. And even if he had a tape with Epstein on it, there is no proof that Epstein told the truth. Melania knows where she and Donald 'did the dirty'. She's the first hand witness.
The left are drooling over gossip.
Nobody is drooling over this here on DI. I am looking forward to having Wolff call out these types of rich control freaks who shut down investigative inquiry with threats of expensive and long lawsuits and I am not left, I vote for whichever side suits my values at the time because the times they always are a changing. This will be an opportunity for Wolff to access the Epstein files and I am curious to see whether or not that picture of Trump with soiled pants surrounded by young topless girls still exists.
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(10-25-2025, 07:25 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I find it strange that Putin would televise a nude Melania tape the day after Trump became President. Is Melania trying to redesign her image and have any rumblings of her lewd past suppressed? Maybe she has gotten too big for her kneehigh boots.
I think Trump really believed that once he took office and had control of the narrative, he could steer his followers away from the Epstein conspiracy
He soon realized bait and switch wasn't working
Even calling them names and demanding they stop talking about Epstein didn't work
With the way this whole debacle has turned out, I'm sure he and Melania, both wish they could destroy every photo and piece of evidence linking them to Epstein
Whether or not they were directly involved in any illicit activity involving minors, just the association, alone is enough to ruin them both
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(10-25-2025, 07:44 AM)cherokeetroy Wrote: I think Trump really believed that once he took office and had control of the narrative, he could steer his followers away from the Epstein conspiracy
He soon realized bait and switch wasn't working
Even calling them names and demanding they stop talking about Epstein didn't work
With the way this whole debacle has turned out, I'm sure he and Melania, both wish they could destroy every photo and piece of evidence linking them to Epstein
Whether or not they were directly involved in any illicit activity involving minors, just the association, alone is enough to ruin them both
I ask myself this, "How could there not be any illicit activity involving minors when both Epstein and Trump were involved in modeling agencies, which Wolff says the age range of the girls was from 14 - 19 years old?
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10-25-2025, 10:33 AM
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So far this has all the same hallmarks of every person who "had the tapes" and "irrefutable proof" and just never brought them forward: Cohen, Schiff, Avenatti, etc., etc.
IF anyone had tapes, they would have dropped them before the election...simple as.
In this case, just drop the tapes and let her sue. The tapes will exonerate you. This is 100% just trying to be relevant and make money.
That said, if Trump or Melania banged underage teens, bring it. Show the evidence. Let them hang, but just saying stuff repeatedly about people that they just 'really really don't like' and that they have acknowledged a motto of 'by any means necessary', without any evidence is the same as lying.
Put up or shut up -- and this goes to everyone.
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(10-25-2025, 10:33 AM)Halfswede Wrote: So far this has all the same hallmarks of every person who "had the tapes" and "irrefutable proof" and just never brought them forward: Cohen, Schiff, Avenatti, etc., etc.
IF anyone had tapes, they would have dropped them before the election...simple as.
In this case, just drop the tapes and let her sue. The tapes will exonerate you. This is 100% just trying to be relevant and make money.
That said, if Trump or Melania banged underage teens, bring it. Show the evidence. Let them hang, but just saying stuff repeatedly about people that they just 'really really don't like' and that they have acknowledged a motto of 'by any means necessary', without any evidence is the same as lying.
Put up or shut up -- and this goes to everyone.
Oh Wolff will definitely put up and shut up Melania and Donald, that is, if they are brave enough to face the law, but they won't be and all of this will be swept under rug with no accountability as per usual.
"The only journey is the one within."
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