Mad Honey

[Sirius]

Kind of a weird food thread I guess, did warn not to eat food from the fey. Cooking a rabbit with honey seemed tasty

Demons to the left



Path to honey on the right



Asmodeus



The moon
Caduceus
Chozzar/Choronzon
The blood of Sothis/Sopdet/Sophie in the cup
A child.
The statue of the father missing




Love and compassion to all.

Inside the church, one of the figures installed by Saunière was of the demon Asmodeus holding up the holy water stoup.[19] Its original head was stolen in 1996 and has never been recovered.[20] A devil-like figure holding up the holy water stoup is a rare and unusual choice for the interior decoration of a Church but not exclusive to the Church of Saint Mary Magdalene; a similar subject can be seen in the Saint Vincent Collegiate church in Montréal, a short distance from Rennes-le-Château

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rennes-le-Ch%C3%A2teau

Cushions and candles if your having a hard time 

[Sirius]

continued...

Heaven originate with St. John, and in his Revelation? Emphatically we answer -- No. His "Dragon" is Neptune, the symbol of Atlantean magic.

To demonstrate the negation the reader is asked to examine the symbolism of the Serpent or the Dragon under its several aspects.

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THE SIDEREAL AND COSMIC GLYPHS.

Every astronomer -- besides Occultists and Astrologers -- knows that, figuratively, the astral light, the milky way, and also the path of the Sun to the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, as well as the circles of the Sidereal or Tropical year, were always called "Serpents" in the allegorical and mystic phraseology of the adepts.

This, cosmically, as well as metaphorically. Poseidon is a "Dragon": "Chozzar, called by the profane Neptune" (Peratae Gnostics); the "Good and Perfect Serpent," the Messiah of the Naaseni, whose symbol in Heaven is Draco.

But one ought to discriminate between the characters of this symbol. For instance: Zoroastrian Esotericism is identical with that of the Secret Doctrine; and when, as an example, we read in the Vendidad complaints uttered against the "Serpent," whose bites have transformed the beautiful, eternal spring of Airyana-Vaego, changing it into winter, generating disease and death, at the same time as mental and psychic consumption, every occultist knows that the Serpent alluded to is the north pole, as also the pole of the heavens.* The latter produces the seasons according to the angle at which it penetrates the centre of the earth. The two axes were no more parallel; hence the eternal spring of Airyana Vaego by the good river Daitya had disappeared, and "the Aryan Magi had to emigrate to Sagdiani" -- say the exoteric accounts. But the esoteric teaching states that the pole had passed through the equator, and that the "land of bliss" of the Fourth Race, its inheritance from the Third, had now become the region of desolation and woe. This alone ought to be an incontrovertible proof of the great antiquity of the Zoroastrian Scriptures. The Neo-Aryans of the post-diluvian age could, of course, hardly recognise the mountains, on the summits of which their forefathers had met before the Flood, and conversed with the pure "Yazathas" (celestial Spirits of the Elements), whose life and food they had once shared. As shown by Eckstein (Revue Archeologique, 8th year, 1885), "the Vendidad seems to point out a great change in the atmosphere of central Asia; strong volcanic eruptions and the collapse of a whole range of mountains in the neighbourhood of the Kara-Korum chain."

https://sacred-texts.com/the/sd/sd2-1-21.htm

[Sirius]

...the pig is the key..the current running up the staff..gematria and endless things...red flowers, the lady holding the cup, who she is. I could draw it, but would probably upset people.

Good luck if you actually look into this, I wouldn't go near those forests at night. Who knows what all was born there.

Honey and apples!
APPLES ARE DELICIOUS!

[BeTheGoddess]

You grow dhatura for the beez to eat.

[UltraBudgie]

You grow dhatura for the beez to eat.

Which apparently makes honey that is safe for humans to eat:
https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=18366.0

Oh cool, there's a "beemaster" forum. Bet that's a fun place.

[quintessentone]

The title should really say it all. I stumbled on something.

It's possible to hallucinate from ordinary honey with some alchemy. It is not healthy, but found it interesting so putting it out there. You need to consume at least 150g a day basically spreading it out so that it's consumed constantly for about a week. Dietary changes are required, it's all mad so you have to figure it out your self.

Typical DMT type stuff but subtle at first. Used for solar chakra activation. Also dangerous, people have been reported as exploding. Can't partake of to much solar energy.

Good for lucid dreaming, astral projection, dream walking etc.



edit: oats and fruits and other raw things, need to get the ethanol factory going.

Everything in moderation, as usual or the reverse? But, psychedelic studies seem to point to the positive benefits...read on.

"In a compelling Genomic Press interview published today, rising scientific star Dr. Michael Wheeler unveils revolutionary findings about how psychedelics reshape communication between the brain and immune system, potentially transforming treatments for psychiatric disorders and inflammatory diseases alike."

"His groundbreaking research, recently validated in Nature (April 23, 2025; https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-025-08880-9), demonstrates that psychedelics like psilocybin don’t just affect neurons: they fundamentally reshape immune responses tied to fear and stress.
 “We found that astrocytes in the amygdala use a specific receptor called EGFR to limit stress-induced fear,” explains Dr. Wheeler. “
 
When chronic stress disrupts this signaling, it leads to a cascade involving brain-resident cells and immune cells that ultimately increases fear behavior. What is fascinating is that psychedelic compounds can reverse this entire process.”
 
This finding represents a paradigm shift in understanding psychedelics’ therapeutic potential. Rather than simply acting on neural pathways, these compounds appear to recalibrate entire neuroimmune circuits."

Are we ready for a paradigm shift?

Are bees tapping into certain plants/mushrooms that bring those natural elements to help us heal? As Sirius says happens when we eat large amounts of honey?

https://neurosciencenews.com/psychedelic...tem-28830/

[sahgwa]

Which apparently makes honey that is safe for humans to eat:
https://beemaster.com/forum/index.php?topic=18366.0

Oh cool, there's a "beemaster" forum. Bet that's a fun place.

Cool find; I love forums. 

CHeck this out:


Hey Folks,

I have a large Angel Trumpet plant that I have heard is very poisonous. The bees have never paid much attention to it, but today they are working it like crazy!

I'm done pulling any honey for the year, but should I be concerned about them feeding this pollen to their brood?

It looks like they are gathering white pollen; I'm not sure if there is any nectar.

I usually assume that the bees know what's best, but I just thought I'd ask.

Thanks!!

-John

 greg spike

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Re: Bees working Angel Trumpet plants (very poisonous)« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 06:18:19 pm »
The poisionous chem.s in Daurtas (and mountain laurel) is a very specific vascular constrictor to humans, tightens capilarys in the skin and brain, causing blood pressure to spike. Also halucenogenic.
Bees don't have much of a vascular system, and brains probably aren't complicated enough to be affected. Never read anything about it being harmfull to bees, but you don't want to risk eating it.

[Sirius]

Continued the church thread here and the post linked goes somewhat towards explaining why I zoomed in on the pig.
https://denyignorance.com/Thread-Neptune...3#pid41283

[Sirius]

Neuroactive metabolites modulated by the gut microbiota in honey bees
https://serval.unil.ch/resource/serval%3...01/REF.pdf

Numerous studies have provided evidence that gut microbes can produce neurotransmitters, such as dopamine, serotonin, and γaminobutyric acid (GABA) (Otaru et al., 2021; Strandwitz et al., 2019; Valles-Colomer et al., 2019). In the human gut, GABA can be produced from glutamate by Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium (Strandwitz et al., 2019; Yunes et al., 2016). In honey bees, contradictive results have been reported. Consistently with humans, increased levels of GABA have been observed in the gut of bees mono-colonized with B. asteroides W8111 (Wu et al., 2021) and Bombilactobacillus W8089 (Zhang, Mu, Shi, et al., 2022), as well as in the gut of CL bees relative to MF bees (Zheng et al., 2017).

Honey's Chemical Composition: A Chemistry Analysis
https://studylib.net/doc/8299753/the-che...n-of-honey

In addition to diastase, invertase, and glucose oxidase,
other enzymes found in honey include catalase and an acid
phosphatase. There is only a small quantity of protein in fin-
ished honey as indicated by the low nitrogen content in Table
2. There are also free amino acids in honey, with proline be-
ing the dominant amino acid present. It is generally agreed
that most of the amino acid content derives from the bees,
not the nectar or the pollen. Total amino acid rarely exceeds
300 ppm
(7)

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-si..._357899432


https://discover.texasrealfood.com/honey...nd-rituals

Ayurvedic medicine, originating from India, utilizes honey as a carrier for herbs, enhancing their medicinal properties. Honey is considered a vital substance that penetrates deep into the body's tissues, promoting health benefits such as better digestion and increased vitality. Similarly, in Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM), honey is used to strengthen the body, harmonize the stomach, and as a salve in poultices to enhance the healing process.

Gut Microbiota Regulation of Tryptophan Metabolism in Health and Disease
https://www.cell.com/cell-host-microbe/f...%2930257-9

The gut microbiota is a crucial actor in human physiology. Many of these effects are mediated by metabolites that are either produced by the microbes or derived from the transformation of environmental or host molecules. Among the array of metabolites at the interface between these microorganisms and the host is the essential aromatic amino acid tryptophan (Trp). In the gut, the three major Trp metabolism pathways leading to serotonin (5-hydroxytryptamine), kynurenine (Kyn), and indole derivatives are under the direct or indirect control of the microbiota. In this review, we gather the most recent advances concerning the central role of Trp metabolism in microbiota-host crosstalk in health and disease. Deciphering the complex equilibrium between these pathways will facilitate a better understanding of the pathogenesis of human diseases and open therapeutic opportunities.

Exploring the Tryptophan Metabolic Pathways in Migraine-Related Mechanisms
https://www.mdpi.com/2073-4409/11/23/3795

This review article summarizes the emerging evidence supporting the involvement of tryptophan metabolism in the pathophysiology of migraine, as well as presents the latest results of preclinical research and the therapeutic possibilities of the disease.

Tryptophan is an essential amino acid needed to produce and maintain proteins, muscles, enzymes, and neurotransmitters. Changes in tryptophan levels can cause an imbalance in the synthesis of 5-HT and melatonin in the brain and may play a role in the pathophysiology of numerous neuropsychiatric and neurodegenerative disorders [21].

the-simplified-guide-to-the-gut-brain-axis
https://psychscenehub.com/psychinsights/...rain-axis/


https://www.saubhaya.com/chemical-makeup-of-honey/

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Tryp..._334079843

Tryptophan metabolic pathways in the host and microbiota. Among microbial metabolites, indole and indolic acid derivatives are the predominant Trp microbial metabolites in the gut, and the intestinal microbiota produce different metabolites based on which catalytic enzymes the bacteria produce. The kyn and serotonin pathways are the primary routes of host Trp metabolism. Trp tryptophan, TpH

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Th...369ca4430f

https://www.crystalsandcatalysts.com/201...ry-of.html

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/AHR-..._329373677

HR Mechanism of Action. Prior to ligand binding, AHR is bound by cochaperones Hsp90 and XAP, which maintain its localization in the cytoplasm. After ligand binding, it is released from its cochaperones and is transported into the nucleus, where it heterodimerizes with ARNT and binds to DNA—often binding to AHREs (5′-CACGC-3′)—and regulates gene expression. AHRR is a prototypic AHR target gene and the encoded protein is a negative regulator of AHR. The arrows show the sequence of events that includes interaction, transport, DNA binding, gene expression and RNA translation. The T bar demonstrates that AHRR negatively regulates the AHR-ARNT interaction. AHR: aryl hydrocarbon receptor; AHRE: AHR response element; AHRR: AHR repressor; ARNT: aryl hydrocarbon receptor nuclear translocator; Hsp90: heat shock protein 90; XAP: X-associated protein

Phenolic Compounds in Honey and Their Neurological Impact
Honey is rich in polyphenols, including flavonoids and phenolic acids, known for their antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties. These compounds have been associated with neuroprotective effects and may influence brain function.

Gut Microbiota, Fermentation, and Neuroactive Metabolites
In honeybees, gut microbiota metabolize dietary components into neuroactive substances. In humans, gut bacteria produce short-chain fatty acids (SCFAs) like acetate, which can influence brain function.
https://serval.unil.ch/resource/serval%3...01/REF.pdf

Endogenous Synthesis of Psychoactive Tryptamines
DMT is synthesized in mammals from tryptophan via enzymes like AADC and INMT.

High Sugar Intake and Neurological Effects
High sugar intake stimulates dopamine release, activating reward pathways in the brain.


Endogenous Ethanol Production in the Human Gut
Saccharomyces, Candida, and certain Clostridium species.
Honey → glucose, fructose
Oats → β-glucans, starches
Fruits → fructose, polyphenols
Auto-brewery syndrome (ABS) is the extreme case: ethanol produced in sufficient quantity to intoxicate, even without drinking.

Ethanol as a Neuroactive Agent (in trace amounts)
Alter GABAergic and glutamatergic signaling.
Modulate dopamine release, affecting mood and perception.
Change the blood-brain barrier permeability, affecting other circulating compounds (e.g., flavonoids, tryptamine derivatives).
Caloric restriction (slows metabolism)
Sleep deprivation or fasting (heightens effects)
Symbolic or ritual framing (triggers altered state)

ethanol-producing fermentation
Oats + Fruits + Honey
Oats → soluble fiber (β-glucans) that feed gut bacteria.
Fruits → quick sugars, organic acids, polyphenols.
Raw Honey → enzymes, yeasts, antimicrobial elements that may select certain microbes.