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(08-15-2025, 07:40 AM)argentus Wrote: I've already passed it, and feeling good. Sleeping better, have more energy. The first time we tried Keto, it didn't work very well. I like to think I've applied those lessons this time around and doing it My Way. 
Great, that is the hardest part to overcome.
I have hope for the next time I give it my all, but for now, it's a half-hearted attempt at practicing Keto now and again, here and there. At least my weight is stable.
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(08-15-2025, 07:44 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Great, that is the hardest part to overcome.
I have hope for the next time I give it my all, but for now, it's a half-hearted attempt at practicing Keto now and again, here and there. At least my weight is stable. Paraphrasing Yoda, 'there is no try, there is only do or not do.' What I have discovered -- at least for me -- is that only if I am all in will keto work. I didn't want to get up this morning at 6:30 and work out, but I had commitments later on in the morning. I really felt like lollygagging, but I knew my system needed the morning burn.
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08-16-2025, 06:09 PM
This post was last modified: 08-16-2025, 06:09 PM by argentus. 
So. I find that I have to walk back some of the nasty things I said about cauliflower. So I made Blackened Salmon, Zoodles with yellow bell pepper, and rice for my family. I made them Basamati rice with garlic, soy sauce, ginger and sesame oil. For myself, I did an experiment with Cauliflower "rice". Holy shit. It is wonderful. Even my family likes it better than rice. Is it a substitute for rice? Never. Never in your life. However, it is a side dish that fills the same slot as rice, and tastes good.
I started with this link from how2doketo.com, but went so far beyond it, that I feel like the recipe is my own.
I took half a head of cauliflower, chopped it, put it in the food processor and pulsed it a few times until it was "riced". Looked nice. I stir-fried it in avocado oil until it was soft and then added chopped scallions, soy sauce, about a tsp of minced fresh ginger, two minced cloves of garlic, and sesame oil. It was delicious.
I filleted the skin off the salmon and fried it for the cats. I dusted them with smoked paprika, garlic powder, pepper and Redmond Sea Salt. Grilled hot in a cast iron pan with a little avocado oil.
I sliced yellow bell pepper, some scallions, and made zoodles with a spiralizer. I stir-fried the bell peppers first, then added the rest and dusted it with chili powder and a few dribbles of sesame oil.
This is a new thing for me and my family. I will still make rice for them in rice-centric dishes, but this really worked well for us all today. What next? A cauliflower pizza crust??? Oh nooooes!!! Say it ain't so!
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(08-16-2025, 06:09 PM)argentus Wrote: [Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...44_187.jpg]
Oh wow that looks sooo good! I've got to try that thank you!
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(08-16-2025, 06:09 PM)argentus Wrote: So. I find that I have to walk back some of the nasty things I said about cauliflower. So I made Blackened Salmon, Zoodles with yellow bell pepper, and rice for my family. I made them Basamati rice with garlic, soy sauce, ginger and sesame oil. For myself, I did an experiment with Cauliflower "rice". Holy shit. It is wonderful. Even my family likes it better than rice. Is it a substitute for rice? Never. Never in your life. However, it is a side dish that fills the same slot as rice, and tastes good.
I started with this link from how2doketo.com, but went so far beyond it, that I feel like the recipe is my own.
I took half a head of cauliflower, chopped it, put it in the food processor and pulsed it a few times until it was "riced". Looked nice. I stir-fried it in avocado oil until it was soft and then added chopped scallions, soy sauce, about a tsp of minced fresh ginger, two minced cloves of garlic, and sesame oil. It was delicious.
I filleted the skin off the salmon and fried it for the cats. I dusted them with smoked paprika, garlic powder, pepper and Redmond Sea Salt. Grilled hot in a cast iron pan with a little avocado oil.
I sliced yellow bell pepper, some scallions, and made zoodles with a spiralizer. I stir-fried the bell peppers first, then added the rest and dusted it with chili powder and a few dribbles of sesame oil.
This is a new thing for me and my family. I will still make rice for them in rice-centric dishes, but this really worked well for us all today. What next? A cauliflower pizza crust??? Oh nooooes!!! Say it ain't so!
[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...44_187.jpg]
Yeah, you are forgiven because cauliflower is a strong force and needs to be subdued by broccoli and cheese.
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So. Some side effects of keto. Your breath may smell somewhat medicinal. Your pee may smell unpleasant. This is due to the acetones and ketones that are present while in ketosis.
I have read keto diet tips that say you can have 20-50 carbs per day. It is not true for me. I am fairly active, especially for a man a couple years away from 70. Exercise/activity is mandatory if keto is to work for you. I aim, still, for zero carbs. I am aware of the carbs I eat. They are few. I have started eating Kale. I used to say about Kale, "I have a great cooking tip for Kale. First, you warm a cast iron pan with coconut oil, swirl it around, get it hot, because that allows you to slide the kale into the garbage." Yeah. Now I am eating kale, because it is good fiber. It's not so bad. It tastes like whatever you put on it.
I am well past the keto "flu" where a person feels sluggish, and decidedly unenergenic. That just lasts a few days. My weight loss is not as much as I wished, but it is consistent. I am losing about 5 pounds a week. I started at 290, and now at 275. Working out three times a week, and exercising in addition to my work required around our house. We have bush on three sides of the house, and the bush is always seeking to fill the empty space.
TMI WARNING!!!!
I had two days where I was constipated, primarily due to indulging in fried pork belly, bacon, and cheese. What could possibly go wrong. I now have fried cabbage, or cauliflower "rice", or some other fiber-rich side dish. I have made cauliflower "potato salad". It's good.
This is working. I cook regular food for my family. They like cauliflower rice as well or better than regular rice, so that's progress. I made grilled salmon today, with asparagus with cheese sauce and cauliflower rice with soy sauce and sesame oil and ginger. I didn't have any of the cheese sauce.
If you want keto cheese sauce, it is simple: Cream cheese, cream and cheese. If you are interested, I'll give you measurements.
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I should actually try the Keto diet this fall, after we get our half head of beef. Potatoes are my downfall from the keto diet though. I tend to need spuds at least three meals a week to keep from going nuts. Potatoes were proven in a mental institution to calm the patients, and they also had an effect on the workers, they were less stressed and were more patient with the patients there.
They have their bad points too, too much causes some side effects, but in moderation potatoes are better than bread as long as it is not french fries you are eating. If I avoid breads yet eat potatoes in moderation, and eat most of them in homemade soups, I will lose weight....lost a lot of weight that way before, but then, half my calories were coming from meat at the time, and my soups I actually like have lots of veggies in them. My wife likes the noodles in the soup, and when I make a big pot, I bring some over to the oldest daughters or the youngest daughters house. My problem is with carbs and sugar, I have CSID disease according to my genetics, and it fits like a T and actually the condition pairs well with the Keto diet. I do have the ability to properly digest and metabolize some starches through an alternate enzyme pathway, but I can only do limited amounts of breads, potatoes, and rice, and it doesn't matter what grains or type of rice or potatoes. I do best with rice in a mixture of one quarter wild rice, one quarter of brown rice, and half white rice in soups. Limiting the quantity to half a cup of the carbs. Potatoes, I can eat a little more of, maybe one large potatoe a day, along with maybe a sandwich for lunch or eggs with toast....but overall starches need to be less than two slices of bread and maybe one large potato together in the day.
The keto diet actually works well for my epilepsy too, and potatoes also do not seem to effect it like breads do. With my CSID condition, I can eat toast with less side effects than bread, evidently the maliard reaction converts the carbs to free up the glucose or something. I usually have hypoglycemia and sugar triggers a big release of insulin, but that will wipe out all my glucose in the body and since I cannot take sucrose apart, bad things happen, sometimes I get the head spins. If I eat a peanut butter cup the shakes go away from the hypoglycemia, but if I eat a candy bar or sweets it gets bad in twenty minutes, I burn right out like kids do when they eat way too much candy and I only have a small amount.
Even though I knew for decades about my reaction to things, I didn't know what exactually was causing it till a few years ago. Being one point seven percent Inuit is mostly related to my metabolism....fish and wild game with minimal carbs. It sucks though, I like carbs occasionally, but always suffer for eating them. It has to be worth it is the new stance I have taken.....but sometimes a craving overcomes me and I blow it. Most of my issue is from my paternal genetics, my grandfather, uncles, and cousins on that side loved fishing, just like I did. We were also all deer hunters and small game hunters...wild game is so good...except I will never eat a woodchuck again.
My Grandson-in-laws genetics are so different than mine, he can't eat a lot of fat according to the genetics, and he has always eaten lean stuff. He is skinny as a rail and he eats a lot of carbs...like sixty percent of his diet. His genetics when put into an ap showed that he needs carbs for his diet, he can't process lipids and will get the yellow fat buildup around his eyelids and in other areas of the skin like some people I knew over the years did. He does eat eggs now though, before he avoided those. So we are all different, the keto diet is not for everyone. My grandson=in-law is danish, scottish, and welch I think and with some Irish kicked in. His problems seem to stem from the ELN gene, another way of saying it is he is Elfen. He doesn't have spock ears, but one relative has one pointed ear. I actually notice some people on TV and producers have those ears now that I know about them. Probably some pik's genetics mixed in. He is a real nice guy, so is his whole family....I would guess that if it is PIK genetics, the PIK people from great Britain were some real friendly people in nature. There is some of that genetics scattered throughout the Europe and the USA I guess, and as with all genetics, there can be some good to it and some bad if you eat foods that do not match the genetics. People with that genetics probably would not do well on a keto diet....
Everyone is different, we all have variances in our metabolism which mean we need to tweak our diets to match our enzymes which are created by our genes. My size 14 1/2 EEEE shoes do not fit everyone
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08-24-2025, 08:51 PM
This post was last modified: 08-24-2025, 08:52 PM by rickymouse. 
Look at how this guy shed a lot of his weight. Arnold's son. The way is revealed at the bottom of that article. Kind of matches this thread...not eating breads for forty days during some Lent thing got him started.
OOPs, forgot the link.....https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/arnold-schwarzeneggers-son-christopher-shows-144435210.html
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(08-24-2025, 08:46 PM)rickymouse Wrote: The keto diet actually works well for my epilepsy too, and potatoes also do not seem to effect it like breads do. With my CSID condition, I can eat toast with less side effects than bread, evidently the maliard reaction converts the carbs to free up the glucose or something. I usually have hypoglycemia and sugar triggers a big release of insulin, but that will wipe out all my glucose in the body and since I cannot take sucrose apart, bad things happen, sometimes I get the head spins. If I eat a peanut butter cup the shakes go away from the hypoglycemia, but if I eat a candy bar or sweets it gets bad in twenty minutes, I burn right out like kids do when they eat way too much candy and I only have a small amount.
Even though I knew for decades about my reaction to things, I didn't know what exactually was causing it till a few years ago. Being one point seven percent Inuit is mostly related to my metabolism....fish and wild game with minimal carbs. It sucks though, I like carbs occasionally, but always suffer for eating them. It has to be worth it is the new stance I have taken.....but sometimes a craving overcomes me and I blow it. Most of my issue is from my paternal genetics, my grandfather, uncles, and cousins on that side loved fishing, just like I did. We were also all deer hunters and small game hunters...wild game is so good...except I will never eat a woodchuck again.
Everyone is different, we all have variances in our metabolism which mean we need to tweak our diets to match our enzymes which are created by our genes. My size 14 1/2 EEEE shoes do not fit everyone
Keto might actually be quite compatible with your CSID condition. I'm not a doctor, and don't want this to be construed as medical advice. Check it out. I know you are a good researcher. Potatoes and pasta are my downfall also. I am working on a recipe for pasta. There is no help for potatoes.
Pure protein is a good thing, but most of us need more. I have become fond of Cauliflower and Cabbage. both of them are my goto for both flavor and fiber.
I have been successful in making low-carb bread. What I miss is biscuits. No help for that. I am still pursuing low-carb pasta. Some of the recipes I've found were not up to my standards. I will find a way. I am a scientist. Good luck with your journey.
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08-24-2025, 11:31 PM
This post was last modified: 08-24-2025, 11:32 PM by rickymouse. 
(08-24-2025, 09:39 PM)argentus Wrote: Keto might actually be quite compatible with your CSID condition. I'm not a doctor, and don't want this to be construed as medical advice. Check it out. I know you are a good researcher. Potatoes and pasta are my downfall also. I am working on a recipe for pasta. There is no help for potatoes.
Pure protein is a good thing, but most of us need more. I have become fond of Cauliflower and Cabbage. both of them are my goto for both flavor and fiber.
I have been successful in making low-carb bread. What I miss is biscuits. No help for that. I am still pursuing low-carb pasta. Some of the recipes I've found were not up to my standards. I will find a way. I am a scientist. Good luck with your journey.
Because of that little bit of Inuit genetics...sort of like Eskimo or other far north cold weather people, I would have good results with the Keto diet for that, and it does work. I can't take apart disacarides well, I also lack the anti-diuretic hormone, so I pee out my salt....a gene app said I am one of the lucky ones because I can eat lots of salt....but in a new world where salt is evil, it is not considered good. My sodium levels are always on the low side of normal, and if they drop too low, I can't get off the couch and put on a lot of water weight. But I really don't care to eat much salt and salt makes me pee a lot, I have lost six pounds in a couple of hours occasionally, an often lose four pounds within that time. It makes the wife irked because we have to pause the show we watch every five minutes. Grapefruit juice with fish also triggers me to pee a lot for some strange reason. Also, because of that genetics, I have hypoglycemia, and will get hyponatremia and have hereditary tachycardia. Just inconveniences in my life, always had these, so it is just a way of life for me.
So yes, I could easily do a keto diet. But I am married so it is impossible because my wife would probably shoot me and I do like carbs. For my epilepsy, asparagus works best, followed by boiled or baked cabbage. But I figure it this way, I like rice and potatoes, and good fresh homemade bread is the cat's meow. I also am really intolerant to organophosphates like glyphosate and pesticides...another shared trait with the Inuit from far north. The genetics does have some good points though, like I can go shovel snow outside in my shorts barefoot at 0 degrees F and stay warm. I did discover something weird, I can stay warmer in the winter outside if I rub some epsome salts on me on my washcloth when showering, like a teaspoon is enough. I also can just rinse my hands with it and I also put a sprinkle into my pot of coffee. This helps me generate heat in the winter for some reason, it also tends to help loosen my stools. Now there is no benefit to increasing the amount of epsom salts, I tried more...no difference, my skin seems to pull it in well, so just a little works great. I try to tell people they do not need a cup in their bathwater, a tablespoon works great and it costs hardly nothing for that much. In the ten cup coffee pot I add maybe a tenth of a teaspoon. I think that would be plenty for most people, because the increases in metabolism the coffee creates increase the amount of magnesium needed to process the glucose or fat stored in our cells and fat cells.
I tend to research things I notice, sometimes it takes hours to identify what metabolic processes I am stimulating which either create positive or negative outcomes. Too much magnesium causes muscles to pulse in your body, not a strong pulse though. Too little and muscles can get locked on, has to do with the effect of magnesium on the calcium channels....so charley horses or sore muscles. A half teaspoon of regular mustard will take away the muscle cramp in charley horses....I read that in some doctor's article....and both the wife and I both tested it and it works well, Isothiocyanates bind to the site stimulated by chloride and Iodine deficiency will also cause charley horses, so taking an iodine tablet helps too...and I have tried that on myself. Every cell in our body needs Iodine, not just the thyroid. Because I use Sea salt without iodine, I take one bigger potassium iodine tablet a week to make sure I get enough iodine. The sea salt we use tastes pretty good, comes from Sanfrancisco bay, and we buy it in twenty five pound bags, time to reorder again, down to three pounds.
The deer like some salt on the potatoes I throw out to them when they wait at the patio door. Four does and four fawns....I liked it better when they all came at once, but with the fawns all together going wild, I think that the does figure it is better to make reservations. I wonder if I should be using iodized salt for them? Five pounds of spuds lasts a day and a half, and the fawns are not allowed to eat foods that we throw out yet, they have to learn to survive in nature before the mothers allow them to eat our foods I guess. Soon all of them will be gobbling up potatoes, apples, carrots, homemade bread....then it will be way more expensive than feeding the four does...Those fawns when together can run really fast in our clearing, and they do not listen to their mothers when they get together, sounds like they might be related to teenagers.
Too much potatoes is not good for deer, but feeding them a lot of bread is even worse. Our deer don't eat cabbage for some reason. They love apples and ripe pears though. And of course, we go through about five pounds of carrots a week.
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