Just When You Think You've Seen Everything!

[Bootless]

... on a lark I ran a search on "gay conservative Christian Neo-Nazis" and holy shit, it is for real! At least the Southern Poverty Law Center says its a thing.

Just goes to show you, random people on a forum aren't always the most informative.

I didn't even think of running a search, just going off old info in my head.

[MichSwampbuck]

Now I'm starting to question myself, "Why?" Have a look at these potential talking points when I chat with my buddies on Gab.

This is from the SPLC website I linked earlier.
 

Gay white men, declares a web page called the Gay Racialist Network, are “nature’s elite.” While straight men are good for breeding, gay white men are “charismatic leaders that possess … genius.”
 
Similar messages appear on sites like Gays Against Semitism, and especially in chat rooms with names such as “Gay Nazi Sex,” “Gay Nazi WP [White Power] Fetishists,” “Gay Aryan Neo-Nazi Skinheads,” “Nazi Muscle” and, most curious of all, “Diapered Skinheads.”

Although it will come as a surprise to many, there has long been a fascist gay subculture. Hitler’s paramilitary SA storm troopers had a significant gay element — until SS head Heinrich Himmler announced that all gays would be sent to concentration camps.

In 1974, the first openly gay American neo-Nazi group, the National Socialist League, was formed in Los Angeles.

Long-time neo-Nazi Harold Covington, revealing his own homophobia, put it this way: “[T]his movement has a distinct tendency to attract fags because of the leather-macho image that the System Jew media imparts to the SS uniform.”

[MichSwampbuck]

Probably genuinely homosexual, Christian, and Nazi.  

Remember the Log Cabin Republicans?

I don't remember, but I bet Pepperidge Farm remembers . . .
 

Log Cabin Republicans was formed in 1977 in California

[MichSwampbuck]

Wow, this whole thing is really out there and becoming a really sleazy rabbit hole to go down on, er, in I mean, down in to. A rabbit furry in a Nazi uniform kind of hole, thing, um, like that, sort of.

[Bootless]

Wow, this whole thing is really out there and becoming a really sleazy rabbit hole to go down on, er, in I mean, down in to. A rabbit furry in a Nazi uniform kind of hole, thing, um, like that, sort of.

Good luck! I'm not interested.

If you look at the date on the SPLC article, it's Dec. 2000.

I think I was looking into the American Nazi groups about 2004, 2005. At least one group was running a political candidate for Prez. They had regular web pages back then. Plus some kids I knew back then had questions. Myspace is where they encountered Nazi talking points.

I don't do social media except this site so no help from me.

[MichSwampbuck]

Good luck! I'm not interested.

If you look at the date on the SPLC article, it's Dec. 2000.

I think I was looking into the American Nazi groups about 2004, 2005. At least one group was running a political candidate for Prez. They had regular web pages back then. Plus some kids I knew back then had questions. Myspace is where they encountered Nazi talking points.

I don't do social media except this site so no help from me.

I hadn't noticed, the content was too shocking for me to see that. I'll have to look more and find some current information on this. Also, in other forums, both SPLC and Duke University aren't considered good sources of information regarding this, or any other subject, and are not usually sighted as source material.

[MichSwampbuck]

Well, there isn't much doubt that this fringe sub-culture group is a real thing that openly began in the 70s. Even with a group this small, there is division in this sub-culture sub-group. Apparently the gay Neo-Nazis believe they are the masters of the master race and blame straight Neo-Nazis for the division and lack of progress for the WP Nazi movement in general.

Having discovered what was more than necessary, I felt I should go back to figuring out this particular profile on Gab. I want to determine to my own satisfaction if this profile is a "fake" or a sincere profile. Is this profile to bait and lure Gab members that may be homosexuals or transgenders? Is it to mock this this gay-Nazi movement or to weed them out. What is its purpose?

I searched the name of the group this user mentioned, and other likely key words, to find what groups he belonged to. The top gay group membership is 511, next is 413, third is 164, then the remaining groups drop well below 100 members with the majority have less than 10 members each. Ok, so I checked every one and they all had members with profiles, but only one out of the 16 search results had any comments on their page, just a single comment. It wasn't even close to the top group and the rest had zero comments. In addition, most of these groups were formed in Jan. 2021. The whole gay scene on gab seems to be fake IMO. Perhaps these are honey traps laid by hard core Nazis or alphabet guys in suits and ties. Personally, I think it is a sock puppet account, one of many used as traps laid by the straight Neo-Nazis.

[UltraBudgie]

this is weird stuff
do they like that they're gay or do they admit it and blame jews for making them gay?
is this actual natsoc socialism or are they spiffy leather and jewhate nazis?
most of the nazis considered themselves goodchristians you know
lot of the usagay leather daddy culture came out of the bsdm fetish community which is verystrong in germany
so maybe they consider themselves the progenitors haha
i wonder if hugo boss made anything in latex

[MichSwampbuck]

this is weird stuff
do they like that they're gay or do they admit it and blame jews for making them gay?
is this actual natsoc socialism or are they spiffy leather and jewhate nazis?
most of the nazis considered themselves goodchristians you know
lot of the usagay leather daddy culture came out of the bsdm fetish community which is verystrong in germany
so maybe they consider themselves the progenitors haha
i wonder if hugo boss made anything in latex

The issues you bring up are for real and highlights the obvious question, "How does this fetish resolve the diametrically opposed gay, Christian, and Neo-Nazi, ideologies?"

The contortions this subculture subgroup go through to maintain this movement must be enormous.

The majority of gays must reject Christianity and Neo-Nazism as both are against homosexuality, with the Nazis even having a history of rounding them up for the death camps.

Given the above, then the majority of both Christians and Neo-Nazis must have a negative opinion of gays.

Based on the New Testament doctrines of the Christians, they shouldn't be having fellowship with Neo-Nazis who hate Jewish, black and gay people. They would also avoid any gays who don't want to follow Christ unless they thought they could go straight and be converted.

Then, to realize that even this subculture fetish is divided into straight and gay factions, complicates things even more.

These things all scream the question, "How does this fetish resolve the diametrically opposed gay, Christian, and Neo-Nazi, ideologies?" What twisted logic makes all these ideologies function together to allow anyone to identify as a gay, conservative, Christian, Neo-Nazi? I can't make any sense out of it, but this is real apparently.

ETA: I can understand that many Christians hate Jews because they rejected Jesus as the messiah and crucified him. So, I can see how that can support Nazi hate, but I can't accept a person as Christian if they have that much hate in their hearts for others.

[Ignorant]

Every minute you spend on Gab makes you a lesser person than you were before. You're still there, willingly? Yikes.