Just When You Think You've Seen Everything!

[MichSwampbuck]

Why don't you just chat with the Gab person instead of going through all of this?

Why don't you? https://gab.com/VI_XII

[quintessentone]

Why don't you? https://gab.com/VI_XII

Because I'm not the one that cares, you are.

[MichSwampbuck]

Because I'm not the one that cares, you are.

If I swear, on my honor, that I truthfully don't care, will you STFU? Because I don't care and if you really want to figure out if this profile is real, you can check it out now and tell me, because, you said you would if you could check it out. But you seem afraid to check it out and see for yourself, or you don't care, so you say.
 

Without knowing the Gab person's comments that made MSD think all that, then it's difficult to know if it is anywhere near the truth and I'm not going onto Gab to find out.

How am I suppose to formulate questions when I have nothing to go on but your interpretation of some person's comments/pics on Gab?

You do that by checking out the profile, but no, you conveniently refused to do that.

I have done as much as I can, "and now time for something completely different".

[quintessentone]

If I swear, on my honor, that I truthfully don't care, will you STFU? Because I don't care and if you really want to figure out if this profile is real, you can check it out now and tell me, because, you said you would if you could check it out. But you seem afraid to check it out and see for yourself, or you don't care, so you say.
 

You do that by checking out the profile, but no, you conveniently refused to do that.

I have done as much as I can, "and now time for something completely different".

Why does it matter to you? If it is a phony profile with the criteria you have for your policy, then you should have blocked it, right? If it is not a phony profile, then the person is obviously confused and contradictory in their identity, again block them, or just let them be in peace. I will STFU now, if you will about this person that is doing you no harm online.

[Bootless]

...Now, for some reason, these Nazis believe they are conservative, devout Christians, and this makes little sense to me because they hate Jewish and black people so much. Their beliefs are so extreme and dogmatic that they have become delusional IMO. But this last profile took the cake.

Apparently, this poster was defending the LGBTQ group on Gab, the only gay group there. They were telling others to ignore the group and let them be. I felt that an obviously liberal comment like that should be investigated, and guess what? This poster is a conservative, Christian, Neo-Nazi, homosexual! My jaw dropped when I saw the Nazi uniform and image of Hitler as I scrolled through the profile. Yet, they had links to movies on the Gay Pride Network and enough comments to make their preference clear. The cognitive dissonance of this profile had me gobsmacked!

I don't know what else to say.

It has been a while since I've looked into American style Neo-Nazi ideology (maybe 20 years or so). Comparing AN (American Nazi) to KKK; they both identify as Christian. They share the Supersessionism theology:

Supersessionism, also called replacement theology by its detractors and fulfillment theology by its proponents, is the Christian doctrine that the Christian Church has superseded the Jewish people, assuming their role as God's covenanted people, thus asserting that the New Covenant through Jesus Christ has superseded or replaced the Mosaic covenant. Supersessionists hold that the universal Church has become God's "New Israel" and thus Christians are the people of God.

The gay pride thing is a head scratcher.

But, if one were to consider the Alt-right, which I only guess at. If ALT means something like alternative to Christian, so as to include atheists (such as Spencer himself) then room could be allowed for LGBTQ people. 

Without knowing more, I can only guess that "Christian" may just be a political label for the person rather than a faith position. Or perhaps the person is a "boldly sinner, forgiven" Christian; or gay, celibate forgiven Christian.   

Still is odd, but such are a varieties of human self identities.

[Byrd]

Do they actually live the life as a homosexual or are they attracted to the idea of homosexuality, rather are they actually bi-sexual or sexually curious. There really is no way to know a person's true self via the internet IMO, especially when you can hide behind the cover of being anonymous. Do they walk the walk? The same thought applies to the neo-Nazi claim that person makes, is it a fantasy desire for the falsely perceived power that sect portrays that is appealing because of a restricted Christian upbringing. A desire to break free from all constraints?

Probably genuinely homosexual, Christian, and Nazi.  

Remember the Log Cabin Republicans?

[quintessentone]

Probably genuinely homosexual, Christian, and Nazi.  

Remember the Log Cabin Republicans?

There really is no way to know without asking the person in question. Just saying.

[MichSwampbuck]

@quintessentone

Why does it matter to you? If it is a phony profile with the criteria you have for your policy, then you should have blocked it, right? If it is not a phony profile, then the person is obviously confused and contradictory in their identity, again block them, or just let them be in peace. I will STFU now, if you will about this person that is doing you no harm online.

I haven't gone on about this, even now am not I harping on this subject. Yet, you do go on don't you? Here is your comment.
 

There really is no way to know without asking the person in question. Just saying.

". . . block them, or just let them be in peace. I will STFU now, if you will about this person that is doing you no harm online."

You keep commenting, that isn't STFU, its the opposite.

Again, I blocked them as soon as I found out they were a Neo-Nazi, after I looked over their profile. If I were to chat with this person, who I don't want to interact with, I wouldn't be leaving them in peace. Your alternatives are all catch-22, I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.

Why is it that you keep insisting that I do something I seriously don't want to do, yet you can sit back and and demand answers from me without checking out the link? You just refuse to do it and want me to scrutinize this person instead.

Think of how easy it would be to prove I'm some kind of "Nazi-Homophobe" or some dirty nogoodnick trying to besmirch the image of gay conservative Christian Neo-Nazis everywhere. You'd be like a gay-Nazi hero if you just take a look and come to an informed opinion that would put me in my place.

I just might contact this guy and put him through the meat grinder, just to have some fun at someone else's expense. Load up on some good anti-gay-Nazi propaganda and let 'em have it. You'll never know if I do, will you?

[quintessentone]

@quintessentone

I haven't gone on about this, even now am not I harping on this subject. Yet, you do go on don't you? Here is your comment.
 

". . . block them, or just let them be in peace. I will STFU now, if you will about this person that is doing you no harm online."

You keep commenting, that isn't STFU, its the opposite.

Again, I blocked them as soon as I found out they were a Neo-Nazi, after I looked over their profile. If I were to chat with this person, who I don't want to interact with, I wouldn't be leaving them in peace. Your alternatives are all catch-22, I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't.

Why is it that you keep insisting that I do something I seriously don't want to do, yet you can sit back and and demand answers from me without checking out the link? You just refuse to do it and want me to scrutinize this person instead.

Think of how easy it would be to prove I'm some kind of "Nazi-Homophobe" or some dirty nogoodnick trying to besmirch the image of gay conservative Christian Neo-Nazis everywhere. You'd be like a gay-Nazi hero if you just take a look and come to an informed opinion that would put me in my place.

I just might contact this guy and put him through the meat grinder, just to have some fun at someone else's expense. Load up on some good anti-gay-Nazi propaganda and let 'em have it. You'll never know if I do, will you?

Why can't you just let it go?

[MichSwampbuck]

Oh dear God! It is for real!

No, I'm still not talking to that guy, but on a lark I ran a search on "gay conservative Christian Neo-Nazis" and holy shit, it is for real! At least the Southern Poverty Law Center says its a thing.

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/repo...ge-fringe/

Duke University, in their Journal of Lesbian and Gay Studies, says it is for real as well.

https://read.dukeupress.edu/glq/article-...Victimhood

Man, I have to think about all this and make sense of this information. At least I'd have some topics of discussion if I do talk to them. Please don't ask me why (you know who). That has become infantile and I will now only respond with, " 'Cause I said so!" or "That's you, but what am I!", or "That's so immature", etc.