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(09-23-2025, 09:44 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Here's why...
Either Trump thought he could release the files, or he found out later he couldn't
Or he knew his participation was hidden behind the NDAs all along
I don't know, but I lean slightly towards the former...
Trump used the hook "I'll release the files" on the campaign trail.
But once elected found out his limitations,
It's just hard to believe he did the EPSTEIN FILES photo op knowing all the files were sealed under protection orders.
Thats how i lean today, but I put it in a box and forget about it because something more urgent is occurring.
Have no problem revisiting it later, when and if we have new revelations and evidence.
I think you are calling it with.
Quote:Either Trump thought he could release the files, or he found out later he couldn't.
Like i suggest, though, we can but hope.
And promises should be performed.
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(09-23-2025, 09:33 AM)ANNEE Wrote: I never "got" Robiin Williams as a comedian -- loved him as a serious actor. The Fisher King was amazing.
I'm gonna leave your Hate at the door.
I loved him in "Mork & Mindy."
I used to dog school in the afternoon to watch those reruns.
That, "Quincy", and "Father Dowling."
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(09-23-2025, 08:14 AM)UKTRUTH Wrote: Hopefully he will abide by the rules of licenced broadcast and stop his misinformation campaign, instead sticking to comedy.
So much this ^^^^^^
Johnny Carson said it best.. starting at 5:08
Essentially..
Quote:His response to why he didn't cover serious issues: "Why do you think just because you have a Tonight Show you have to deal with serious issues? Thats a danger a real danger,once you get the self importance feeling that what you say has great import you could sway people and I don't think you should do that as an entertainer"
That's not why I'm there. Once you start to do that you feel a sense of self importance, you shouldn't. I don't feel you should try to sway people."
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Never "got" Johnny Carson either.
He had great timing -- but there was something about him -- like he wasn't honest -- like he was holding a secret.
Hard to describe.
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(09-23-2025, 10:22 AM)ANNEE Wrote: Never "got" Johnny Carson either.
He had great timing -- but there was something about him -- like he wasn't honest -- like he was holding a secret.
Hard to describe.
So that discredits everything a man says and does?
He was a heavy drinker and could be an angry as hell person, among other vices, still doesn't invalidate his thoughts on the role of an entertainer on a late-night show.
He practically invented the genre, pretty sure he knew a few things that are still germane
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(09-23-2025, 10:22 AM)ANNEE Wrote: Never "got" Johnny Carson either.
He had great timing -- but there was something about him -- like he wasn't honest -- like he was holding a secret.
Hard to describe.
I don't think his 4 ex-wives spoke very highly of him when he was drunk or upset, but he did indeed have perfect comedic timing.
I wonder where Stephen Colbert will land in 8 months?
Which is another fellow with what i would consider to be impeccable comedic timing.
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(09-23-2025, 10:54 AM)andy06shake Wrote: I dont think his 4 ex-wives spoke very highly of him when he was drunk or upset, but he did indeed have perfect comedic timing.
I wonder where Stephen Colbert will land in 8 months?
Which is another fellow with what i would consider to be impeccable comedic timing.
So we have to listen to Kimmel's social commentary and ignore Carson's input?
Im not saying he is marriage counselor material or a good sponsor at an AA meeting
Here's Vice's ( they do still lean left) take on Jimmy Kimmel's and the Man Show
https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-man-...el-sexist/
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The Man Show, created by Adam Carolla and Jimmy Kimmel, harnessed male resentment towards women and turned it into “comedy,” propelling Kimmel to late night stardom—and, eventually, multiple Oscars hosting gigs.
Proudly crass, racist, and transphobic, the show also celebrated chauvinism by treating women as disposable fuck puppets. In a recent interview, Kimmel maintained that The Man Show sketches were created in jest but acknowledged that viewers were divided in their ability to recognize the show’s satire. Half the audience “really thought we had an agenda,” he told New York Magazine last October.
Sexism on The Man Show was so blatant and over-the-top that its creators could easily invoke the defense that it was all a hyperbolic send-up of male entitlement. But Kimmel has never been made to answer just how he thinks groping women on camera, making fun of their weight, mortifying them on the street, and objectifying them on trampolines functions as “satire.”
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(09-23-2025, 11:05 AM)putnam6 Wrote: So we have to listen to Kimmel's social commentary and ignore Carson's input?
Im not saying he is marriage counselor material or a good sponsor at an AA meeting
Here's Vice's ( they do still lean left) take on Jimmy Kimmel's and the Man Show
https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-man-...el-sexist/
Buddy, don't try and put words in my mouth.
I did not suggest anything of the sort.
But Carson's proclivities are well established.
Dude liked the sauce too much, and it did not like him back.
Which is a crime many of us are guilty of or have been in the past.
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He's back already. Let's see if he can put both feet into his mouth in one monologue this time.
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(09-23-2025, 11:08 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Buddy, don't try and put words in my mouth.
I did not suggest anything of the sort.
But Carson's proclivities are well established.
Dude liked the sauce too much.
Which is a crime many of us are guilty of or have been in the past.
Then its just an interesting tidbit of information
but you can see where it seemed like it was posted to invalidate his comments
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