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Jimmy Kimmel pulled from the air over false comment about Kirk murder
(09-23-2025, 09:05 AM)putnam6 Wrote: LOL its been going on since 2012 what makes you think 2025 is any different than Trump's first 4 years, Biden's 4 years. 

Again, a President can not open an NDA closed case, which is what would need to happen. 

Either TPTB have buttoned it up for good, or there's no meat left on the bone and the carcass has been picked clean.

This doesn't mean I like it or agree with it; it just is.

One can but hope putnam6.

And when not producing the goods equates to complicity....

Reports suggest around 100GB of Epstein-related data remains unreleased.

So about 1/3rd.

It's Trump's watch once more, and the man did get elected on the back of claiming he would release said files.

Obfuscation and lack of transparency is simply a bad look.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-23-2025, 07:52 AM)UKTRUTH Wrote: Misinformation is free speech when the left do it - and they do it orders of magnitude more than anyone else.
When anyone else does it, it needs to be policed and censored, and when it is the left cheer it on.

We literally have Democrats in Govt calling for censorship of their political rivals and the executive branch, when under democrat control, caught red handed colluding with social media to ban speech that questions their policies - yet as soon as the FCC chair says that Kimmel should be taken off air, there is a huge media storm.

The hypocrisy is stunning.

Really?? How about the JFK lies about the MMR vaccines, or Trump threatening to remove broadcasting licences if they don't support him, or telling the FBI to go after his deniers. You should remove the blinkers and see how all politicians try to shut down the opposition



 
"Denial is a common tactic that substitutes deliberate ignorance for thoughtful planning." 
Charles Tremper
(09-23-2025, 09:16 AM)Kurokage Wrote: Really?? How about the JFK lies about the MMR vaccines, or Trump threatening to remove broadcasting licences if they don't support him, or telling the FBI to go after his deniers. You should remove the blinkers and see how all politicians try to shut down the opposition

Trump threatens to shut them down (but in this case it was Disney that did it ).  He absolutely crosses the line in his rhetoric.  

The left did the same thing when Biden was in office.   People with right leaning politics were cancelled and taken off the air.   Trump himself got kicked off Twitter.

Left/Right = same/same.
(09-23-2025, 08:35 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Right now, Kimmel's all the Democrats have, and they will milk it till something else comes along 

He is cause du jour...

Really?  Personally I prefer intelligent satire.

But how exactly do you know what a Democrat thinks?  (I am not a Democrat BTW)
(09-23-2025, 09:21 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: Trump threatens to shut them down (but in this case it was Disney that did it ).  He absolutely crosses the line in his rhetoric.  

The left did the same thing when Biden was in office.   People with right leaning politics were cancelled and taken off the air.   Trump himself got kicked off Twitter.

Left/Right = same/same.

Money was central to Disney’s decision, both in the suspension and the reversal.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(09-23-2025, 08:29 AM)ANNEE Wrote: I’d like to know who you consider a REAL comedian.

You didn't ask me but I'll answer.
Robin Williams.
Billy Crystal.
Jerry Sienfeld.
Adam Sandler (not a 'comedian', but he does comedy)

Most self proclaimed 'comedians' are just political activists
hiding behind hate infested diatribes.
(09-23-2025, 09:26 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Money was central to Disney’s decision, both in the suspension and the reversal.

Yep.   It's all about the $$$$$$$$.

Like I said, if Kimmels ratings were any good, Disney wouldn't have touched him no matter that he lied or not.
(09-23-2025, 09:29 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: You didn't ask me but I'll answer.
Robin Williams.
Billy Crystal.
Adam Sandler (not a 'comedian', but he does comedy)

Most self proclaimed 'comedians' are just political activists
hiding behind hate infested diatribes.

I never "got" Robiin Williams as a comedian -- loved him as a serious actor.  The Fisher King was amazing.

I'm gonna leave your Hate at the door.
(09-23-2025, 09:09 AM)andy06shake Wrote: One can but hope putnam6.

And when not producing the goods equates to complicity....

Reports suggest around 100GB of Epstein-related data remains unreleased.

So about 1/3.

Here's why...

Either Trump thought he could release the files, or he found out later he couldn't
Or he knew his participation was hidden behind the NDAs all along

I don't know, but I lean slightly towards the former...

Trump used the hook "I'll release the files"  on the campaign trail.

But once elected found out his limitations,

It's just hard to believe he did the EPSTEIN FILES photo op knowing all the files were sealed under protection orders. 

Thats how i lean today, but I put it in a box and forget about it because something more urgent is occurring.

Have no problem revisiting it later, when and if we have new revelations and evidence.


 
Quote: "Can US President unseal Epstein court files 2025"

 The Epstein case is a prime example of the principles I outlined earlier regarding the President's limited authority over sealed court cases and related NDAs. The Jeffrey Epstein investigations involved multiple federal and state court proceedings with sealed documents, grand jury materials, and protective orders (functioning similarly to NDAs) to safeguard victim privacy, investigative details, and third-party information. While the President can direct executive actions like declassification or DOJ motions to unseal, the judiciary retains ultimate control, and unilateral opening remains impossible. Here's how this plays out specifically for Epstein as of September 23, 2025:
Key Aspects of the Epstein Case Involving Seals and NDAs
  • Sealed Court Documents and Grand Jury Records: Epstein's cases (e.g., 2008 Florida plea deal, 2019 New York sex-trafficking indictment) include thousands of pages of sealed materials, such as grand jury transcripts, search warrant exhibits, witness statements, and videos from his properties. These were sealed to protect victims and maintain investigative secrecy under Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure Rule 6(e). NDAs or protective orders also bound victims and associates in civil suits (e.g., Virginia Giuffre's defamation case against Ghislaine Maxwell), preventing disclosure of sensitive details.
  • Ongoing Partial Releases: Significant portions have been unsealed over time via court orders:
    • In January 2024, a New York federal judge ordered the release of over 900 pages from the Giuffre-Maxwell case, naming associates but redacting victim identities.
    • In February 2025, Attorney General Pam Bondi (under President Trump) declassified and released an initial phase of FBI/DOJ files, including investigative reports on Epstein's exploitation of over 250 underage girls.  This was framed as fulfilling Trump's transparency pledge but excluded full grand jury materials.
    • In early September 2025, the House Oversight Committee released over 33,000 pages of DOJ records (subpoenaed earlier), including flight logs, videos, and court documents—many previously public but with new redactions for victims.  The DOJ committed to further releases but emphasized victim protections.
Presidential Involvement and Limitations
  • Trump Administration's Efforts: President Trump has repeatedly directed the DOJ to pursue unsealing, including motions filed in July 2025 to release grand jury transcripts from Epstein's 2005-2007 Florida probe and 2019 New York case.  These were positioned as responses to public (and MAGA base) pressure for full disclosure. However, federal judges rejected these bids:
    • In July 2025, a Florida judge (Robin L. Rosenberg) denied the request, citing strict limits on grand jury secrecy and noting the DOJ already held releasable materials. 
    • In August 2025, New York Judge Richard Berman similarly rejected unsealing for Epstein's 2019 grand jury, calling it a "diversion" from the DOJ's broader files and emphasizing victim privacy/safety. He urged the executive branch to release its own non-court-sealed documents instead. 
  • No Unilateral Power: As with general cases, Trump cannot directly unseal these without court approval, respecting separation of powers. FBI Director Kash Patel claimed in September 2025 congressional testimony that "court orders" block releases, but critics (including Judge Berman) noted this misrepresents the DOJ's ability to declassify non-judicial files like victim interviews and property videos.  A July 2025 DOJ memo admitted much material remains "court-ordered sealing," limiting executive action. 
  • NDAs and Private Agreements: Epstein's victims signed NDAs as part of settlements (e.g., his 2008 plea), enforceable as contracts. The President has no authority to void these without litigation or congressional intervention, though courts can modify them in public-interest cases (e.g., partial lifts in Giuffre's suit).
Current Status (September 23, 2025)
  • Not Fully Open: While substantial files are public (e.g., via the Oversight Committee's September release), core sealed elements—like full grand jury transcripts and unredacted victim-related NDAs—remain closed due to judicial denials.  Pending congressional subpoenas and potential appeals could lead to more unsealing, but the President cannot force it.
  • Broader Implications: This highlights executive influence (e.g., directing DOJ motions) but underscores judicial independence. Any overreach risks legal challenges, as seen in criticisms of the administration's "diversionary" tactics. 
In essence, the Epstein case exemplifies why Presidents can't unilaterally "open" such matters: courts decide based on law, not executive fiat.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government
Always hopeful yet discontent, knows changes aren't permanent
But change is 
Professor Neil Ellwood Peart 
 
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(09-23-2025, 09:29 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: You didn't ask me but I'll answer.
Robin Williams.
Billy Crystal.
Jerry Sienfeld.
Adam Sandler (not a 'comedian', but he does comedy)

Most self proclaimed 'comedians' are just political activists
hiding behind hate infested diatribes.

You're going to need Ouija board for poor Robin Williams.

Loved the man myself.

He could bring tears of joy to anyone's eye.

Frankie Boyle, Kevin Bridges, David Chappelle, Bill Burr, Chris Rock, and Ali Siddiq, would be my picks.  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."