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Jay Z and Diddy allegedly raped 13 year old
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(12-13-2024, 05:33 PM)sahgwa Wrote:  

Until you are actually in one of the groups, or reading the material and doing the meditation and ritual work I don't think it's very reasonable to allege that the A.:.A.:. and O.T.O. are cults of sexual abuse.   That's all. 
The 'Illuminati' triangle sign is just some BS they do as a joke because people like you, make up things about 'the Illuminati'
By their behaviour they don't evidence any spiritual advancement whatsoever.

Only because of the fact that MOST people view ‘spiritual advancement’ in a positive light. This doesn’t mean that negative spirituality does not exist. In fact, I’d is say it’s more prevalent on this planet.
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(12-13-2024, 05:53 PM)KKLoco Wrote: Only because of the fact that MOST people view ‘spiritual advancement’ in a positive light. This doesn’t mean that negative spirituality does not exist. In fact, I’d is say it’s more prevalent on this planet.

My post was only trying to highlight that despite the 'boogeyman' status that Crowley loved to foster for money and fame, his system of spirituality in the A.:.A.:. is not negative in the slightest. It is about self improvement.  It advocates yoga ,meditation, self reflection, self discipline and communing with your Higher Self or Guardian Angel, much like what the Greeks called, one's Genius, or Daimon.  It's usually hard for people to dig through the publicity and the blathering of most celebrities that think Do What Thou Wilt is the same thing as Do What You Want, which is so far from the truth it is laughable.   That's all.
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I think very few speak about the difference between caricature and character.

It's almost as if these folks in the 'club' of conspirators considered themselves to truly be "Illuminati."

As if they were emulating the caricature... for effect.

Interesting that the "Illuminati" operates in utter darkness.
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(12-13-2024, 07:34 PM)Maxmars Wrote: I think very few speak about the difference between caricature and character.

It's almost as if these folks in the 'club' of conspirators considered themselves to truly be "Illuminati."

As if they were emulating the caricature... for effect.

Interesting that the "Illuminati" operates in utter darkness.

You bring up a point that I was going to leave out , but automatically lumping religions, cults, or spiritual systems into some larger group of 'Evil' 'Satanic' etc generally gives conspiracy theorists a bad name, and makes them look like they don't do their homework or research.

It plays to the stereotype of conspiracy theorists as ultra conservative, bible thumping, uneducated yokels, which is exactly what I am trying to show 'normies' that many CT'ers are not.

From what I can see the 'Illuminati' conspiracy driven by hip hop culture has no basis in fact or ties to actual occult orders.  It's all internet speculation. 

Another case in point is the Satanic Panic of the 80s, if we lump anyone in a largely libertarian group like the OTO into 'evil satanists' we end up sounding uninformed.  That whole thing was found to be false and based on group hysteria.

Now, to the topic at hand, if Jay Z and Diddy raped a 13 year old, of course they should be prosecuted. And in no place in the OTO or A.:.A.:. to my knowledge does it advocate hurting other humans.
Crowley said that every man and woman is a star, and thus they all have their own true orbits, and should not infringe on the orbits of another human being or fellow star.

I remember when people accused Marilyn Manson of being a rabid Satanist and killing babies.  It's the same kind of nonsense.
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