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It Is Time to Focus on Comets
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Comets are frequent mysterious beasts in our skies, especially at nighttime.  They elicited ominous interpretations from old-world populations.  Today, we gaze at their beauty in wonder.  But then, we do not quite understand them, either.  So let us take a closer look.
I underwent a UFO time-loss period in 1964.  Always interested in astronomy and the “flying saucers,” I found after a few months of that event that I keenly wanted to study the heavens to determine from where these UFOs originated.
At that time, in 1965, I searched the local libraries for relevant books on the heavens and found a wealth of astronomical books in lending libraries, even in observatory libraries out of my state.  I cannot say what I was exactly looking for, but I loved picking up the old volumes as they were shipping to my library.  What I found old in the old volumes recorded by astronomers were their pen and ink drawings of comets which were far superior in detail than photographic prints that began in the late 1890s.  The ink art displayed incredible detail that got washed out of the photographs—and that situation has continued to this very day (when it truly need not be the case).  Drawings, from those old books, from various astronomers of the inner nucleus activity of Comet Halley in 1910 captured my interest.  --What was going on inside that envelope?
One drawing led to another until I gained a sense of order in some of the drawings.  That indicated intelligent actions, not mere acts of nature.  How could that be?  Those bodies were virtually at death’s door moving as they did so close to the sun.  nonetheless, my instincts told me to press on.  Eventually, I evolved what I call the “cometship” theory that grew into a long, continuous obsession.
I tried to write out the affair but lacked the education.  Several other things were also going on in my life but by 1976 I had a university diploma under my belt and attempted another effort of writing.  I got to 42,000 words but other things got more attention, and the whole issue was put aside for decades.  I had my answer, the rest of the world could wait.  Now, just after my 87[sup]th[/sup] birthday, it is now or never.
I was on ATS back in 2017 when AstroEngineer made his debut and was roughly treated by those wanting to silence him.  I expect here about the same treatment.
The next time you see a comet image with an ion “tail” spread out in a counter-sunward angle consider that is merely a course-correction maneuver to get it perfectly aligned for its return shot home.  The so-called Oort Cloud was invented only to explain long-period comets and for no other reason.

Lastly, current science would have you accept that a comet can fall from the very outer reaches of our solar system and magically round around the sun at close range and then head precisely back along its incoming track (toward its home light-years away, never falling directly into the sun).  Almost magical, is it not when we never expect such on a single one of any of our missions to anywhere.    
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It Is Time to Focus on Comets
Comets are frequent mysterious beasts in our skies, especially at nighttime.  They elicited ominous interpretations from old-world populations.  Today, we gaze at their beauty in wonder.  But then, we do not quite understand them, either.  So let us take a closer look.
I underwent a UFO time-loss period in 1964.  Always interested in astronomy and the “flying saucers,” I found after a few months of that event that I keenly wanted to study the heavens to determine from where these UFOs originated.
At that time, in 1965, I searched the local libraries for relevant books on the heavens and found a wealth of astronomical books in lending libraries, even in observatory libraries out of my state.  I cannot say what I was exactly looking for, but I loved picking up the old volumes as they were shipping to my library.  What I found old in the old volumes recorded by astronomers were their pen and ink drawings of comets which were far superior in detail than photographic prints that began in the late 1890s.  The ink art displayed incredible detail that got washed out of the photographs—and that situation has continued to this very day (when it truly need not be the case).  Drawings, from those old books, from various astronomers of the inner nucleus activity of Comet Halley in 1910 captured my interest.  --What was going on inside that envelope?
One drawing led to another until I gained a sense of order in some of the drawings.  That indicated intelligent actions, not mere acts of nature.  How could that be?  Those bodies were virtually at death’s door moving as they did so close to the sun.  nonetheless, my instincts told me to press on.  Eventually, I evolved what I call the “cometship” theory that grew into a long, continuous obsession.
I tried to write out the affair but lacked the education.  Several other things were also going on in my life but by 1976 I had a university diploma under my belt and attempted another effort of writing.  I got to 42,000 words but other things got more attention, and the whole issue was put aside for decades.  I had my answer, the rest of the world could wait.  Now, just after my 87[sup]th[/sup] birthday, it is now or never.
I was on ATS back in 2017 when AstroEngineer made his debut and was roughly treated by those wanting to silence him.  I expect here about the same treatment.
The next time you see a comet image with an ion “tail” spread out in a counter-sunward angle consider that is merely a course-correction maneuver to get it perfectly aligned for its return shot home.  The so-called Oort Cloud was invented only to explain long-period comets and for no other reason.

Lastly, current science would have you accept that a comet can fall from the very outer reaches of our solar system and magically round around the sun at close range and then head precisely back along its incoming track (toward its home light-years away, never falling directly into the sun).  Almost magical, is it not when we never expect such on a single one of any of our missions to anywhere.    
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#2
Looks like the meditation is going well.  Will read tomorrow  :beer:
I call not love in human frame,
But chrome, and fire, and roaring flame.
She came in smoke and metal breath,
A streak of lust, a dance with death.
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#3
There was a comet at the start of the year and some weird stuff going on.  Was it Apollo? 

I also heard someone say the uap activity picks up and dies down with major geological activity.

The electric universe guys loves comets and electromagnetic connections. Maybe there is portals being opened up, or they ride the currents.  All seems complicated to me.
I call not love in human frame,
But chrome, and fire, and roaring flame.
She came in smoke and metal breath,
A streak of lust, a dance with death.
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#4
Sirius-
The Electric Universe folks are suspicious of something not being right with some comets, but their reach is not far or wild enough, in my estimation.  Indeed, most people will scoff and laugh at comets being spaceships (habitats, actually) rather than large chunks of debris.  Why not?

My initial offering about comets, is done in a mild form because I'm aware of the personal and professional fraud that persists in the science of astronomy.  Most members of the public believe whatever science wants to push upon us.  That is exactly why the UFO/alien situation continues in a state of crisis.  People need to actually think for themselves on the available data, but no, Sagan said UFOs can't get here and cited Einstein's SOL limits as his proof....   That lie was good for two or three decades of continued denial of the irritant!  Even with the UFO presence being self-evident the dictates of highly trained/schooled officials and the media forced the public to accept what they were told and should think.  Science as a credo and science in action, is a wonderful tool, almost as good as a strong religion used thusly. 

I'll give a related but yet unrelated example I have experienced.
I have an old brass 3.5 inch telescope from the mid-to-late 1800s.  My university would love to have it for installing in the reconstruction of the school's former observatory.  I was offered a small sum for the instrument.  I thought about it and decided to put them on the spot.  The "them" being an current or former astronomers.  
My reply was that they could have the telescope if the members accepted a 10-page paper of my that explained and proved how the "grooves" on Phobos were caused by it being moved from a former resting place out the outside of Jupiter's ring of asteroids, pushed to Mars, and carefully, carefully inserted into its near-perfect orbit four thousand miles over the planet.  I never heard a word back.  --I guess the price of my doing a little business with them was too great. 

(BTW: My proof was found in NASA's own CD sets of images from the Viking Orbiters mission in the late 1970s.)  But, you know, that just isn't a popular idea.  I earlier had set sent copies of that paper to the facility mapping Mars from Flagstaff.  Ten yellow envelopes went to individuals there.  None came back by returned mail and neither a single response to my attempt at enlightenment.)
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#5

Someone threw a snowball at me once.

It had twigs and leaves in it.
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(03-19-2025, 01:19 PM)AlienSun Wrote: I was on ATS back in 2017 when AstroEngineer made his debut and was roughly treated by those wanting to silence him.  I expect here about the same treatment.

I'm sorry you experienced midwit snark and dismissiveness. That place really has been on a downhill trajectory for a while. Let's try and make sure it doesn't happen here.

It is odd how non-hyperbolic comets can lose mass at an inconsistent rate and yet maintain such periodic orbits.
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#7
(03-19-2025, 01:19 PM)AlienSun Wrote: .....

Lastly, current science would have you accept that a comet can fall from the very outer reaches of our solar system and magically round around the sun at close range and then head precisely back along its incoming track (toward its home light-years away, never falling directly into the sun).  Almost magical, is it not when we never expect such on a single one of any of our missions to anywhere.    

Nope.  Not magic. Just the natural consequences of an inverse-square universal gravitation law, as worked out by Issac Newton around 1687.  Newtonian mechanics has been used to calculate the trajectories of all of our interplanetary spacecraft since the beginning of the Space Age.  I guess you didn't get the memo.
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(03-22-2025, 07:58 PM)EXETER Wrote: Nope.  Not magic. Just the natural consequences of an inverse-square universal gravitation law, as worked out by Issac Newton around 1687.  Newtonian mechanics has been used to calculate the trajectories of all of our interplanetary spacecraft since the beginning of the Space Age.  I guess you didn't get the memo.

If you consider the long, supposed orbit of a long-period comet coming in from being dislodged in some fashion for the imagined Oort Cloud.  How can it magically graze the sun from a close but safe distance yet never fall directly into it as all long-period comets never do?  The math required for that nice picture of a long orbit resembling a railroad track coming, side-by-side, coming and going for a light-year in an "elliptical orbit" is not an astronomer's dream.  It really is a nightmare.
  Astronomers relish showing a comet's motion as an ellipse, usually as an egg-shaped elongation. but such motions never requires the comet to return to the exact same point in the sky.  The far end of a regular ellipse will always point in some direction, of course, --not that it usually matters except with cometships going back home.
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(03-22-2025, 09:49 PM)AlienSun Wrote: If you consider the long, supposed orbit of a long-period comet coming in from being dislodged in some fashion for the imagined Oort Cloud.  How can it magically graze the sun from a close but safe distance yet never fall directly into it as all long-period comets never do?  The math required for that nice picture of a long orbit resembling a railroad track coming, side-by-side, coming and going for a light-year in an "elliptical orbit" is not an astronomer's dream.  It really is a nightmare.
  Astronomers relish showing a comet's motion as an ellipse, usually as an egg-shaped elongation. but such motions never requires the comet to return to the exact same point in the sky.  The far end of a regular ellipse will always point in some direction, of course, --not that it usually matters except with cometships going back home.

        I’m sorry for the delay, life outside our interests usually has its way with us.
 

Some readers may want to fault me for starting the thread in a personal narrative rather than specifically keeping to cometary data.  I can understand that position, but in general, we are dealing with the whole package of what is the cosmos and how it works—not how we were taught how to accept and understand it.  Specifically, we want to believe what authority figures have told us about comets.  We have little reason to doubt their words unless we seriously think about the implications or not of what they pass down to us, and/or know otherwise from personal experience.    Some people like to call it “thinking outside of the box.”  I call it forward-thinking.  There is probably not one area of human activity that is not influenced or controlled in some fashion.  The will and means to do that is human nature, and also, may be subject to outside influences.
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Oh, interesting. I always assumed the Oort Cloud was, like, an actual thing. It turns out it's a placeholder idea, with no evidence it exists. Well, other than the standard "we assume it exists even though there's no evidence because if it doesn't our theories don't make sense and we really want our theories to make sense".

Quote:Question: I’m somewhat skeptical about the existence of the Oort Cloud. Some of the estimates I’ve heard indicate that it could stretch halfway to Proxima Centauri. Unless the interstellar medium is itself far less “empty” than predicted, it would seem unlikely that our star would have such a cosmic structure surrounding it that other stars lacked. Do we have any direct observational evidence that would confirm the existence of the Oort Cloud (evidence not explained by other theories)? Is it possible that the interstellar medium is simply less empty than predicted, and Oort-Cloud-like filler is common in interstellar space? — Tim

Answer: There is what one could call “indirect observational evidence for the Oort Cloud. It has been known since 1932 (first proposed by Ernst Opik, then updated by Jan Oort in 1950) that one needs a source for long-period comets that is beyond the orbit of Pluto. This source of long-period comets, which are gravitationally-bound to our Sun, cannot be interstellar. Also, we have seen Kuiper Belts (debris orbiting at distances from 30 to 50 AU) around other stars, and as the Oort Cloud is likely a continuation of the Kuiper Belt around our Sun, these properties appear to be common remnants of the star formation process. Note that our abilities to detect small bodies (a few to 10s of kilometers in diameter) in the Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud regions are improving, using techniques such as background star occultation, making the ultimate characterization of the Oort Cloud inhabitants in the next few decades a good possibility.

From NRAO: https://public.nrao.edu/ask/proof-that-t...ud-exists/
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