Israel to spend $4.1M to influence Christians in US

[Sirius]

That is a very good catch! There are also many non-profit "objective" think-tank and investigative organizations that receive direct funding from Israel, such as ISGAP whom you cite, who received $1.3 million¹. Are they required to file FARA disclosures for that?

¹ https://thecjn.ca/news/ngo-looks-to-comb...-academia/

pffft, your million vs my billion. do better. I'm going to have to look for the other passage now, something about the cows

[UltraBudgie]

pffft, your million vs my billion. do better. I'm going to have to look for the other passage now, something about the cows

[moved this addendum from an edit add-on in my previous post to a reply, so you won't miss it]

Edit: I know you're trying to be fair, and make a point that both Israel and Islam have an influence in the United States, and that's fine—true in a technical sense, and everyone is entitled to an opinion—but if you're trying to imply that Qatar funding a university in Qatar in partnership with Georgetown University is somehow the equivalent of Israel's direct influence in US politics and society, well I think you have to go pretty wide to try and scrape up enough evidence to make even a half-ass argument that is the case. And, as you can see, it tends to backfire.

Edit to also add: Now, if you want to make an argument about the influence economically-secularized Middle Eastern oil-states have on US politics, well that would be a great point, but might derail the thread from the topic of influence on American Christianity.

[Sirius]

[moved this addendum from an edit add-on in my previous post to a reply, so you won't miss it]

Edit: I know you're trying to be fair, and make a point that both Israel and Islam have an influence in the United States, and that's fine—true in a technical sense, and everyone is entitled to an opinion—but if you're trying to imply that Qatar funding a university in Qatar in partnership with Georgetown University is somehow the equivalent of Israel's direct influence in US politics and society, well I think you have to go pretty wide to try and scrape up enough evidence to make even a half-ass argument that is the case. And, as you can see, it tends to backfire.

Edit to also add: Now, if you want to make an argument about the influence economically-secularized Middle Eastern oil-states have on US politics, well that would be a great point, but might derail the thread from the topic of influence on American Christianity.

hmmm, I should have put in more effort
“The floodgates opened during the Biden era,” said NCRI’s co-founder Joel Finkelstein. “This isn’t just a financial issue—it’s a national security crisis. Hostile powers are buying influence on American campuses at an industrial scale.”

Here’s what the NCRI study found:

Qatar is the largest source of foreign donations to U.S. universities since reporting began in 1986, with $6.3 billion coming from the gas-rich Gulf state.
https://www.thefp.com/p/explosion-in-for...iversities
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JPR55eI...KYOQd/view




I wonder what is the actual story here

[Kwaka]

For where the big money is moving on the information battlefield:
 

An investor group headlined by Larry Ellison’s Oracle, the private equity Silver Lake and Marc Andreessen's venture capital firm will hold a controlling stake in TikTok’s new U.S. business

Oracle, Andreessen Horowitz, More Will Hold Controlling Stake In TikTok Deal, Report Says

Now that it is USA hands, the Gaza story in one on the delete list. Did help wake up the younger generation to the horrors of war. Sounds like Twitter/X is taking a similar approach. Been that way on ATS as well.

[Sirius]

not the passage I was looking for, but stone and honey

They pounced on the plunder and, taking sheep, cattle and calves, they butchered them on the ground and ate them, together with the blood. 33 Then someone said to Saul, “Look, the men are sinning against the Lord by eating meat that has blood in it.”

“You have broken faith,” he said. “Roll a large stone over here at once.” 34 

[FlyersFan]

4.1 million?   That's all?

How many billions do the oil rich Muslim countries spend in our universities to influence Americans?  And by the looks of the idiot pro-Hamas protests going on, the Muslim countries are doing a good job of indoctrination.

It all sucks, of course.   But really 4.1 million is next to nothing in the grand scheme.

[UltraBudgie]

not the passage I was looking for, but stone and honey

They pounced on the plunder and, taking sheep, cattle and calves, they butchered them on the ground and ate them, together with the blood. 33 Then someone said to Saul, “Look, the men are sinning against the Lord by eating meat that has blood in it.”

“You have broken faith,” he said. “Roll a large stone over here at once.” 34 

That story in 1Sa14 is interesting. Do you know how the Torah was taught to young children, at times? Wooden slabs were carved, letter by letter, and then honey smeared within the grooves. Then with a finger or rod, the children would trace the letters out, retrieving the honey as a reward. Learning the Torah, and also the lesson, that the word of God is as sweet as honey. It puts a bit of perspective on that story about Jonathan, doesn't it?

[Sirius]

That story in 1Sa14 is interesting. Do you know how the Torah was taught to young children, at times? Wooden slabs were carved, letter by letter, and then honey smeared within the grooves. Then with a finger or rod, the children would trace the letters out, retrieving the honey as a reward. Learning the Torah, and also the lesson, that the word of God is as sweet as honey. It puts a bit of perspective on that story about Jonathan, doesn't it?

hmmm, honey yummy, been back on honey for the last week or so. this was it

7 Then Saul attacked the Amalekites all the way from Havilah to Shur, near the eastern border of Egypt. 8 He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword. 9 But Saul and the army spared Agag and the best of the sheep and cattle, the fat calves[b] and lambs—everything that was good. These they were unwilling to destroy completely, but everything that was despised and weak they totally destroyed.

17 Samuel said, “Although you were once small in your own eyes, did you not become the head of the tribes of Israel? The Lord anointed you king over Israel. 18 And he sent you on a mission, saying, ‘Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; wage war against them until you have wiped them out.’ 19 Why did you not obey the Lord? Why did you pounce on the plunder and do evil in the eyes of the Lord?”

[Bootless]

not the passage I was looking for, but stone and honey

They pounced on the plunder and, taking sheep, cattle and calves, they butchered them on the ground and ate them, together with the blood. 33 Then someone said to Saul, “Look, the men are sinning against the Lord by eating meat that has blood in it.”

“You have broken faith,” he said. “Roll a large stone over here at once.” 34 

The point of that story is that the blood was not given to the God. It was wasted in the dirt.
In olden days the God demanded that his portion of all meat was the blood.
The blood was given to the God by having it poured out on uncut stone. (see Exodus 20:22–25)

[Sirius]

The point of that story is that the blood was not given to the God. It was wasted in the dirt.
In olden days the God demanded that his portion of all meat was the blood.
The blood was given to the God by having it poured out on uncut stone. (see Exodus 20:22–25)

Interesting, I like the glowing eyes from honey bit. I rate it's related to current affairs.

Kwaka post is the interesting one here. It ties into the other threads nicely

and this
https://youtu.be/NejsITNlxg4?t=422
 

Um back during the ICE rights, do you remember all of that at the beginning of the year? A lot of people were like, where are all
of a sudden these big violent riots coming from? Who's funding these organizations? We found out that there was a foreign funding tie to an
individual by the name of Neville Singham who's a multi-billionaire. and he made his billions by working with
the communist Chinese government and he would take and he's not a registered agent a foreign agent which is a far
violation. So he's taking these millions funneling it into organizations like the party of socialism and liberation who
then in turn create these very radicalized movements but they're not even American in theory or funded by
American people. They're actually foreign uh funded by foreign governments.