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(05-24-2025, 08:32 PM)RonetteJersey Wrote: Would love to know why so many children are being diagnosed with autism -
Not so many years ago, it was unheard of, and we all had the mandatory vaccines as kids. Now autism is practically an epidemic.
My husband has said many times that the 1986 Chernobyl disaster has had negative effects on humans. After all, that radiation must have traveled through the atmosphere worldwide.
Along with the 9/11 bombings of 2001. We live very close to NYC, I remember we were driving down the turnpike WEEKS later, and could see the area still smoking.
We also live very close to a very polluted river, which is a dangerous flood hazard. For decades, they have been talking about dredging the river to make it deeper and less likely to overflow. But because of severe pollution on the river bed, they have refused to do this. And we are continually seeing cancer cases in the area. A nurse told me recently she is moving her family out of here because of it.
I'm no scientist, but it makes you wonder.
I just wanted to add something for everyone to contemplate.
Pfizer is rapidly approaching a patent cliff for many of their jabs. When that happens the generic companies can move in and manufacture much less expensive copycats. That will undermine Pfizer's profits and they can't have that happen, can they?
 They plan to switch over these products to the mRNA platform which will start the patent time clock over again.
Nothing they are doing is for the health of the people...it is about the money.
The really sad part is that the big funds are propping up the stock price of Pfizer using our own pensions funds.
The burning question in the room...what mid and long term clinical trials have been conducted on infants and children being injected with this mRNA?
We need to proceed with great caution.
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(05-27-2025, 12:09 PM)Thoughtful3 Wrote: I just wanted to add something for everyone to contemplate.
Pfizer is rapidly approaching a patent cliff for many of their jabs. When that happens the generic companies can move in and manufacture much less expensive copycats. That will undermine Pfizer's profits and they can't have that happen, can they?
They plan to switch over these products to the mRNA platform which will start the patent time clock over again.
Nothing they are doing is for the health of the people...it is about the money.
The really sad part is that the big funds are propping up the stock price of Pfizer using our own pensions funds.
The burning question in the room...what mid and long term clinical trials have been conducted on infants and children being injected with this mRNA?
We need to proceed with great caution. There really does need to be research on ALL vaccines given to young children, and long term effects.
And you're right - it IS all about the money.
My Dad worked for Pfizer for 30 years, at first for 10 years in cancer research, then moved on to management. I see Pfizer has changed along with the other pharmaceutical companies, to a money-making business, matching the medical 'industry'. If one gets ill, it is a repeating cycle of doctors, tests, specialists, more tests, hospital visits, then back to the primary care doctor and it starts all over again.
Went through all this with my husband, who ended up in a wheelchair with mobility problems, and I flat out refused to go back and forth with him to all these specialists. I told them to call my husband to discuss test results. Transport services jump onto this gravy train, charging $250 for each doctor visit, and of course 'medical insurance' covers none of that.
However, those on medicaid get everything, including transport services, totally free of charge.
What a joke.
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(05-27-2025, 01:39 PM)RonetteJersey Wrote: There really does need to be research on ALL vaccines given to young children, and long term effects.
And you're right - it IS all about the money.
My Dad worked for Pfizer for 30 years, at first for 10 years in cancer research, then moved on to management. I see Pfizer has changed along with the other pharmaceutical companies, to a money-making business, matching the medical 'industry'. If one gets ill, it is a repeating cycle of doctors, tests, specialists, more tests, hospital visits, then back to the primary care doctor and it starts all over again.
Went through all this with my husband, who ended up in a wheelchair with mobility problems, and I flat out refused to go back and forth with him to all these specialists. I told them to call my husband to discuss test results. Transport services jump onto this gravy train, charging $250 for each doctor visit, and of course 'medical insurance' covers none of that.
However, those on medicaid get everything, including transport services, totally free of charge.
What a joke.
The system is very broken. I'm sorry for what you and your husband have been put through.
Resident Lurker was abandoned by the big Pharma medical Drs. during the plandemic 2020.
He was left out there for 9 months suffering from Covid and they gave him nothing- not even oxygen. I wasn't permitted to be with him during his medical visits so he had no one advocating for him. The Dr used one of the visits to forcibly convince him to take a pneumonia shot, which in his weakened state resulted in him contracting pneumonia.
Imagine that on top of Covid.
He was finally prescribed something for his lungs early 2025 costing a mere $2,500 a month.
Another book I would recommend is "The Real Anthony Fauci" written by Kennedy as well.
It is well written and easy to understand.
He goes into depth about the Fauci/Gates drug of choice Remdesivir, which was tested on people in Africa who had contracted Ebola. It had devastating results.
That started in 2014...isn't it interesting that Biden's pardon for Fauci was backdated to January 1, 2014.
I'm surprised he didn't pardon Billy the Gates, Fauci's partner in crime.
Heads up- make certain that you are prepped because they are planning something June 23- target date.
Hopefully people will not fall for this again.
I play evil level sudoku so numbers and sequences leap out for me.
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(05-27-2025, 12:09 PM)Thoughtful3 Wrote: I just wanted to add something for everyone to contemplate.
Pfizer is rapidly approaching a patent cliff for many of their jabs. When that happens the generic companies can move in and manufacture much less expensive copycats. That will undermine Pfizer's profits and they can't have that happen, can they?
They plan to switch over these products to the mRNA platform which will start the patent time clock over again.
Nothing they are doing is for the health of the people...it is about the money.
The really sad part is that the big funds are propping up the stock price of Pfizer using our own pensions funds.
The burning question in the room...what mid and long term clinical trials have been conducted on infants and children being injected with this mRNA?
We need to proceed with great caution.
If it is all part of a plan, then what has objectively occurred is the practical destruction of the immune system which over time has started a time bomb on the health outcomes of the people in many countries and as each of many stressors increase whether it be financial ,infectious, or mentally challenging, will have the same effect of causing morbidity prior to mortality. That is until multi system breakdown occurs which it seems to be on the brink of in many levels., which will then just be engulfed in a blackout.
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(05-27-2025, 06:50 PM)annonentity Wrote: If it is all part of a plan, then what has objectively occurred is the practical destruction of the immune system which over time has started a time bomb on the health outcomes of the people in many countries and as each of many stressors increase whether it be financial ,infectious, or mentally challenging, will have the same effect of causing morbidity prior to mortality. That is until multi system breakdown occurs which it seems to be on the brink of in many levels., which will then just be engulfed in a blackout.
this sounds correct about the immune system but of course i dont think it will ever be proven or such as the system trusted to do that is broken for answering questions like that which threaten the system itself, but i did my own research haha and although i dont make decisions at that level it seemed to me that the mechanism of the mrna basically generated things that would spam the immune system to generate antibodies but the way that system works is via b-cell population which is sort of a distributed dictionary of what your immune system has learned and when you spam it it can displace much info potentially or bias your immune reaction which did not seem like a good thing because now people who got the early vaccs have a b-cell population loaded with instructions for generating antibodies to a now-extinct coronavirus variant and the potential places for instruction on reacting to other immune situations have been displaced which doesnt seem like a good idea in the long run, and as i said i don't make decisions at that sciency level but it never made sense to me how they were saying that was a good thing
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(05-27-2025, 08:42 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: this sounds correct about the immune system but of course i dont think it will ever be proven or such as the system trusted to do that is broken for answering questions like that which threaten the system itself, but i did my own research haha and although i dont make decisions at that level it seemed to me that the mechanism of the mrna basically generated things that would spam the immune system to generate antibodies but the way that system works is via b-cell population which is sort of a distributed dictionary of what your immune system has learned and when you spam it it can displace much info potentially or bias your immune reaction which did not seem like a good thing because now people who got the early vaccs have a b-cell population loaded with instructions for generating antibodies to a now-extinct coronavirus variant and the potential places for instruction on reacting to other immune situations have been displaced which doesnt seem like a good idea in the long run, and as i said i don't make decisions at that sciency level but it never made sense to me how they were saying that was a good thing
The Gene based therapy seems wrong on many levels of common sense, and probably vaccinating during an epidemic might well cause a variant that also evades the vaccine as it would normally mutate different types during its normal cycle, with one of these evading the vaccines net, and then becoming dominant as time goes by. Either way since the whole covid strain does not seem much worse than the flu obviously something else is going on.
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(05-27-2025, 08:42 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: ... now people who got the early vaccs have a b-cell population loaded with instructions for generating antibodies to a now-extinct coronavirus variant and the potential places for instruction on reacting to other immune situations have been displaced which doesnt seem like a good idea in the long run, and as i said i don't make decisions at that sciency level but it never made sense to me how they were saying that was a good thing
Wouldn't that happen with all naturally created immunity, with lots of b-cells prepared for a disease the person just got? That doesn't mean newer b-cells cannot be "programmed" to react to other threats.
Or am I missing something?
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(05-28-2025, 02:14 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Wouldn't that happen with all naturally created immunity, with lots of b-cells prepared for a disease the person just got? That doesn't mean newer b-cells cannot be "programmed" to react to other threats.
Or am I missing something?
Pff I dunno for sure I just look at what Mr Science says, but I know estimates are 50-400 million memory b-cells in the human body which is a limited number. Here is aispam of how they get their affinities:
Quote:The mechanism by which B cells acquire memory involves several key processes during the immune response:
Activation: When a pathogen (such as a virus or bacterium) enters the body, it is recognized by naive B cells through their B cell receptors (BCRs). This recognition is often aided by helper T cells, which provide necessary signals for B cell activation.
Clonal Expansion: Once activated, B cells undergo clonal expansion, where they proliferate and produce a large number of identical B cells. Some of these cells will differentiate into plasma cells that produce antibodies, while others will become memory B cells.
Somatic Hypermutation and Affinity Maturation: During the immune response, activated B cells can undergo somatic hypermutation, a process that introduces mutations in the genes encoding their BCRs. This leads to the generation of B cells with varying affinities for the antigen. B cells with higher affinity for the antigen are selected for survival and further proliferation, a process known as affinity maturation.
Differentiation into Memory B Cells: After the initial immune response, a portion of the activated B cells will differentiate into memory B cells. These cells are long-lived and can persist in the body for years or even decades. Memory B cells express a different set of surface markers compared to naive B cells, which helps distinguish them.
Rapid Response upon Re-exposure: If the same pathogen is encountered again, memory B cells can quickly recognize the antigen and mount a faster and more robust immune response. They can rapidly proliferate and differentiate into plasma cells, producing large amounts of antibodies specific to the pathogen.
This memory mechanism is the basis for the effectiveness of vaccines, which aim to generate memory B cells without causing disease, allowing the immune system to respond more effectively to future infections.
So my thinking was that since the mrna is constantly causing creation of spike protein which activates pathogen response and b-cell differentiation, and that process continues even after the response to any matching coronavirus pathogen, it sort of breaks the feedback mechanism in the immune system and biases the b-cell population to spike protein affinity, potentially displacing other b-cell population.
Plus needles are yukkie haha.
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(05-28-2025, 06:38 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: So my thinking was that since the mrna is constantly causing creation of spike protein which activates pathogen response and b-cell differentiation, and that process continues even after the response to any matching coronavirus pathogen, it sort of breaks the feedback mechanism in the immune system and biases the b-cell population to spike protein affinity, potentially displacing other b-cell population.
Plus needles are yukkie haha.
mRNA causes the creation of the spike protein, but mRNA itself is short lived, it lasts a few days.
The protein lasts for a few weeks and b-cells, at most, for six months, so I don't think that possibility really exists.
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(05-27-2025, 10:58 PM)annonentity Wrote: The Gene based therapy seems wrong on many levels of common sense, and probably vaccinating during an epidemic might well cause a variant that also evades the vaccine as it would normally mutate different types during its normal cycle, with one of these evading the vaccines net, and then becoming dominant as time goes by. Either way since the whole covid strain does not seem much worse than the flu obviously something else is going on.
There is something more going on. I just received and am reviewing the book recommended by the President of the Brownstone Institute " The Deep State Goes Viral- Pandemic Planning and the Covid Coup".
"The rule making authority for the pandemic response was not invested in public-health agencies but the National Security Council."
"This was not public health. It was national security. The antidote under development with the label vaccine was really a military countermeasure." "What we experienced was a quasi-martial law, a deep-state coup not only on a national scale but on an international level."
Of course no one will go anywhere near this, instead they will provide cover for the health agencies claiming they botched the response.
This is boiling it down to a merger between the military and the civilian structure [which was and is funded by mega non profits-like the Gates Foundation] which when combined attracts much more in funding than they would if they operated independently. Essentially being able to exert more effective "influence over a vaster array of research institutions, non profits, and NGO's."
Once merged this was cemented by the newly established sub-agency ASPR. "Now we have a military and intelligence run entity within HHS."
They share one common partner- Big Pharma and we know how that worked out.
In the decade after 2001 [anthrax attack]- the biodefense arm became obsessed with finding a platform technology- mRNA.
The plug and play option.
Meanwhile the public health/ civilian side were obsessed with developing a universal flu vaccine.
This had morphed into an enormous entity and if it was going to continue to grow, there needed to be an event.
Serious money went into developing that mRNA platform.
Now we have "this enormous entity that represents hundreds of billions in funds and millions of jobs."
The other component is the global corporations.
We can label this as the Biodefense/Pandemic Preparedness and Industrial Complex.
The author Debbie Lerman goes into more details about introducing loopholes and legal maneuverings to allow things like the EUA and no liability for the countermeasures deployed.
I'm going to break this up so people can understand where I am going with this.
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