Is Science Bullshit?

[Creaky]

The scientific method still stands, ready to be used by those that do real science. If you ignore the media you will see that science is as good as it ever was.


First, do not judge science by what was done by a few people, many of which are not even scientists.
Second, science is a global thing, not just something that is done in a couple of countries.

In my opinion, nothing changed in science because of CoViD-10, although the perception some people have of science was changed by what other people (that probably know nothing about science) said about it.

Edited to add that I know one scientist that said he wasn't going to take a vaccine that wasn't completely tested. I also know a doctor that said the same and added that he told all his patients to take the flu vaccine but wasn't going to say the same about the CoViD-19 vaccines.

I know a doctor who wouldn’t administer the covid shot, so what
I know a scientist who advocated the vax, so what
I know science is a “global thing” 

They (whoever they are) manipulate science and it’s now not trustworthy 

You do whatever you want, believe as you wish
In my opinion, to the core, science is corrupted and those undertaking it are not to be trusted

To the question asked in this thread, absolutely 
As for my opinion of people who can’t see the lie and manipulation
Scientific religious acolytes, you encourage the lies and deceptions by denying the lies and deceptions

[ArMaP]

As for my opinion of people who can’t see the lie and manipulation
Scientific religious acolytes, you encourage the lies and deceptions by denying the lies and deceptions

That shows you aren't really admitting the possibility of other people having different opinions...

[rickymouse]

Oh, I read a ton of science, especially in relation to health, food chemistry, medicine, and pharmacology.  Half of the conclusions are twisted and then media and the health industry gets hold of it and twists it out of proportion.  Most people do not know how to or have the time to read the full research articles Like I have.  Looking for who funds the research, what the research was looking for, the parameters of the research, the ancestral heritage of the people tested, and epigenetic metabolic ancestral traits of the people is necessary to evaluate pertinence.  The conclusions of the research are often skewed by the belief of the person writing the summary too.  Also, if cancer risk is raised by fifty percent of a research but only one in ten thousand people actually get cancer from consuming something, that means the results are not practical.

The big reason that Covid 19 killed so many people is that lots of entry level medicines doctors prescribe to patients block the proper immune system function of innate immunity.  So the body does not react properly then when it is delayed the immune system overreacts and the immune system actually causes a lot of damage.  In some situations the dampening of the immune system is important like with organ transplants, but often if people would be informed that certain foods trigger symptoms and identify those chemistries and also some soap and other household chemistries trigger symptoms, they could avoid giving medicines to dampen innate immune response.  Too much chemicals in our environment.  Add to that that everyone grabs cough syrup at the first cough and dump over the counter medicines to treat themselves too quickly.  Mucous is one of our first lines of defense against diseases.  Block that and what happens, diseases quickly spread in us then the immune system over reacts.  Yes, these meds are useful sometimes but people overuse them.

I did a thread called "Half the stuff on ATS is crap".  I mention that it is basically that people are parroting things that are not real, noting that science is also half crap because it is being evaluated by beliefs held by those who are funding it.  You will see this in lots of my posts on ATS but I rarely name names of who is guilty of funding the research, because I do not want any pharma company, big corporation, or government agency coming after me.  So rarely do I name specific names, and I use the chemical name of chemicals, not a particular company name who creates and promotes it.  I do not want to spend half my time and all my money trying to defend myself from a big corporations lawyers.

Climate change research funding is another one of the corrupt practices, although I am at heart an environmentalist that loves nature, I don't believe in how they are blaming everything on fuels, while ignoring all the chemicals dumped into the environment and all the jets flying way up spewing gasses up where there are no trees to eat up the carbon.  But I guess flying all over the world is eco friendly...Economy friendly that is.

Half of the science is so badly misinterpreted for many reasons, money, prestige, and of course making something that goes against consensus of the time or the beliefs of the peer review people...go away.  The video is pretty accurate, never saw that video or anything like it before, I never thought anyone had enough balls to tell what is really happening.   I sure wouldn't, and the funny thing is that most people are so conditioned that they will not believe the truth these days, they believe the truth is a lie or the person saying it is mentally unstable because some science article says they are wrong.  I am glad I didn't work for a research agency that choked the truth out of the research conclusions and twisted the evidence to make it look like something it did not say.

[Creaky]

That shows you aren't really admitting the possibility of other people having different opinions...

I offered mine, don’t care for yours
I agree with the op
believe as you wish

so badly manipulated I don’t trust any

[Helperman]

The science research stuff related to wellness maybe, but saying science as a whole is a overgeneralization. So, some claims here are sort of right, but the name i wrong because its ignoring paleontology, astronomy, and other sciences where there is little or no reasom to manipulate.

[quintessentone]

It may be that over the last few decades science has been programmed away from any open minded and outside the box exploration of other theories of nature's mysteries that might have challenged the elitist scientists' theories who wanted to cling onto the money and fame and thus throwing others' explorations into the ditch along the way.

What ever happened to anti-gravity research?

What ever happened to cold fusion exploration?

It just seems to have been left by the wayside and in it's place we are stopping and are cheering for chemical rockets, repeating and training new scientists with the same programmed science over and over, and directed energy weapons of war.

How do we get back to attracting real scientific explorers then letting them soar without restrictions or stigma?

Are we the people in all countries the means to the end to change the direction of science via allocation of our tax dollars or are the billionaries?

[UltraBudgie]

ignoring paleontology, astronomy, and other sciences where there is little or no reasom to manipulate.

oh or perhaps biggest reason of all! to hide truth of this reality from people. reduce them to think of themselves as microscopic specks in vast uncaring universe! chance aberration in billion year timeline! here and gone in nothing flat. meaningless sound and fury in an vast empty, signifying nothing! disempowered hopeless. unaware of their true divinity. try to stop believing in "space" and "dinosaurs", see what happens. perhaps world will make more sense? hard pill to swallow though. okay now skeptics will demand proof and tell me to take meds haha! this little rant should not be construed as endorsement of any particular belief system. have a nice day i love you.

[sahgwa]

It may be that over the last few decades science has been programmed away from any open minded and outside the box exploration of other theories of nature's mysteries that might have challenged the elitist scientists' theories who wanted to cling onto the money and fame and thus throwing others' explorations into the ditch along the way.

What ever happened to anti-gravity research?

What ever happened to cold fusion exploration?

It just seems to have been left by the wayside and in it's place we are stopping and are cheering for chemical rockets, repeating and training new scientists with the same programmed science over and over, and directed energy weapons of war.

How do we get back to attracting real scientific explorers then letting them soar without restrictions or stigma?

Are we the people in all countries the means to the end to change the direction of science via allocation of our tax dollars or are the billionaries?

Alternate energy and propulsion research as you know is ongoing. It's just secret and kept from the hoi polloi.  Why Files had a great episode about all of the alternate energy guys who had inventions and patents that worked but who were offed.

[quintessentone]

Alternate energy and propulsion research as you know is ongoing. It's just secret and kept from the hoi polloi.  Why Files had a great episode about all of the alternate energy guys who had inventions and patents that worked but who were offed.

I will keep an open mind about that, but within academia, right now, there is programming and steering away from fundamental challenging the status quo in science and we need to focus on what we can change, not what we can't.

[sahgwa]

 programming and steering away from fundamental challenging the status quo in science 

What exactly do you mean ?