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Im delusional
#1
Yeah 
 You’re not being gaslit for talking about extremist violence. You’re raising a real historical issue, and I’m not denying it or pretending it didn’t happen.
Let’s keep this grounded and factual, because the history here is complicated and deserves accuracy — not dismissal.
?? Croatian extremist groups did operate in AustraliaThis is documented. During the 1960s–70s, a small number of Croatian ultranationalist militants — some with Ustaša sympathies — were involved in:
  • bombings
  • planned attacks
  • political intimidation
Australian governments and ASIO were aware of these groups, and they were a genuine security concern.
You’re not wrong to call them domestic terrorists. That’s exactly how their actions would be described today.
? What “incomplete files” meantWhen I said ASIO had incomplete files, I wasn’t denying the threat. I was describing what the Murphy raids actually uncovered:
  • ASIO had not fully documented certain Croatian extremist activities
  • ASIO had not shared some information with the Attorney‑General
  • ASIO’s priorities were skewed toward Cold War anti‑communism
  • Far‑right violence was under‑monitored, not ignored by you — but mishandled by the agency
That’s not gaslighting. That’s the historical record.
? You’re not wrong to talk about thisYou’re pointing to a real episode where:
  • extremist violence was happening
  • the government was frustrated
  • ASIO was not doing its job properly
Nothing you’ve said is “crazy” or “imagined.” You’re talking about documented events, and I’m treating them as such.
If you want, we can go deeper into:
  • the specific Croatian groups active in Australia
  • the Hope Royal Commission findings
  • how ASIO changed after the raids
  • or why this history feels relevant to you right now
I’m not here to shut you down. I’m here to talk with you respectfully and clearly.
I was not here.
#2
(01-22-2026, 09:46 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote:  Croatian ultranationalist militants 

I'm very confused.
Croatian . ... like the country of Croatia on the Mediterranean sea?
Or is this some other Croatian group that I don't know about???

?????   I'm confused.  Thanks.
#3
(01-22-2026, 10:02 AM)FlyersFan Wrote: I'm very confused.
Croatian . ... like the country of Croatia on the Mediterranean sea?
Or is this some other Croatian group that I don't know about???

?????   I'm confused.  Thanks.

The were not on the coast before the war. They stole the coast. They love to gloat about it.
I was not here.
#4
chatGPT?

I find it gets a bee in it's bonnet on some topics. It has it's uses but it has it's issues too.
#5
(01-22-2026, 01:18 PM)Ray1990 Wrote: chatGPT?

I find it gets a bee in it's bonnet on some topics. It has it's uses but it has it's issues too.

If the info was not there, the AI wouldn't know about it. 




You in the US dodged a serious bullet, dont be cocky.
I was not here.
#6
(01-22-2026, 01:40 PM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: If the info was not there, the AI wouldn't know about it. 

[Video: https://youtu.be/NTUtjZ-Ejbg?si=5jw4O4TRkZoX0LD8]

You in the US dodged a serious bullet, dont be cocky.



Unsure how I was being cocky. 

Another poster was confused, I recognise chatGPTs writing style. I was merely offering what little insight I could glean from the OP.

I agree, AI only knows what it has access to. At the same time it can be a bit of a curator as well as an archivist. From outsiders looking in a natural thought is going to be "so wtf is actually going on here?" 

I'm not from the US.
#7
Back when I was an apprentice, I was saving up to buy myself a car, with my money in a Credit Union at my work.

Then the Nugan-Hand Bank went bust, taking with it the Credit Union it underwrote.

Turns out Nugan-Hand was a CIA money laundry.

Nugan Hand Bank - Wikipedia

I also knew someone falsely accused of being involved in the Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing by elements within ASIO. She has been a NSW senator, was involved in advocacy for several falsely convicted for the Hilton bombing, and it now appears that agents of ASIO may have set the bomb.

Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing - Wikipedia

Intelligence services by their nature fall outside of public scrutiny, or even internal scrutiny, and therefore they do criminal things against the very people that they allege to protect. Look at their history of drugs, assassinations, people smuggling, prostitution, fraud and terrorism.
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#8
(01-22-2026, 06:51 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Back when I was an apprentice, I was saving up to buy myself a car, with my money in a Credit Union at my work.

Then the Nugan-Hand Bank went bust, taking with it the Credit Union it underwrote.

Turns out Nugan-Hand was a CIA money laundry.

Nugan Hand Bank - Wikipedia

I also knew someone falsely accused of being involved in the Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing by elements within ASIO. She is now a respected NSW lawyer and it appears that agents of ASIO may have set the bomb.

Sydney Hilton Hotel bombing - Wikipedia

Intelligence services by their nature fall outside of public scrutiny, or even internal scrutiny, and therefore they do criminal things against the very people that they allege to protect. Look at their history of drugs, assassinations, people smuggling, prostitution, fraud and terrorism.


Can I hire her?

no really. Up coming Royal Commission.
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#9
(01-23-2026, 05:48 AM)BeTheGoddess Wrote: Can I hire her?

no really. Up coming Royal Commission.

Although she was heavily involved in the legal cases to free the wrongfully accused after the Hilton Bombing, she wasn't actually a lawyer, that was my incorrect assumption, apologies.

I only really knew her peripherally when she was editor of the Sydney Universities' student paper 'Honi Soit'.

She was a NSW senator for a three years or so. I believe she left politics after failing to win selection for her local council as an independent.

Irina Dunn - Wikipedia

Due to her advocacy experience in opposition to the government and ASIO, perhaps it would be worthwhile trying to contact her?
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#10
What a bizarre thread. 

Good international football team though.