If Trump Admin. Redact Epstein Files, 'It Will Be Clear They Are Hiding Something'

[PorkChop96]

"In July 2023, Judge Kaplan stated that the jury had found that Trump had raped Carroll according to the common definition of the word as they had ruled that Trump had forcibly and nonconsensually penetrated Carroll's vagina with his fingers.[sup][20][/sup] New York state's definition at the time defined rape as solely nonconsensual penetration of the vagina by a penis.[sup][21][/sup] "

The facts are the facts, deal with it.

And yet the jury did not convict him of rape, stating that she had not provided enough evidence to support her claims. 


Convictions and opinions are 2 very different things.....

[quintessentone]

Cry harder, no one gives a rats ass.

Then move along and chat with those here that will validate and praise guys like Trump who are degenerate corrupt liars and who are as easy to con as you are.

[FlyersFan]

And yet the jury did not convict him of rape, stating that she had not provided enough evidence to support her claims. 

She gave no evidence, and couldn't even get the 'rape' story together and remember the so-called facts.  She's a lying grifter who is downright crazy (just ask her cat!).   She and Trump would make a perfect couple.   So much alike.

[quintessentone]

And yet the jury did not convict him of rape, stating that she had not provided enough evidence to support her claims. 


Convictions and opinions are 2 very different things.....

Trump silenced many of the women who came forward accusing him of sexual abuse/assault but he managed to silence them either through threats of their safety or by threatening long and expensive court trials, or he paid them off.

It looks like Trump's MO is working again and his government and some cult-MAGA are working hard to protect him from something, and other elitist child predators.

"When Power Protects Predators: How U.S. Rape Culture Silences Survivors[i]Across America, systemic rape culture, power imbalances, and institutionalized injustice continue to prevent sexual violence survivors from accessing justice."[/i]"In the weeks following the 2024 election, the President selected five men for senior government positions who have either been accused of rape or sexual misconduct or have been entangled in serious allegations over their mistreatment of women, reflecting a troubling societal acceptance of the disregard for women, their safety, and their rights."

"In 2024 alone, numerous examples of legal frameworks and officials allowing perpetrators to go unpunished came to light. For example, Harvey Weinstein's conviction in New York was overturned because judges ruled testimony about his past behavior was inadmissible, even though federal law permits the inclusion of such evidence in sexual violence cases due to the difficulty of proving these crimes. 
Additionally, these frameworks often place the burden of providing evidence on the survivor, making the legal process re-traumatizing 3 and one that promotes impunity."

How U.S. Rape Culture Silences Survivors - The Fulcrum

A sad state of affairs, I must say.

[FlyersFan]

Trump silenced many of the women who came forward accusing him of sexual abuse/assault but he managed to silence them either through threats of their safety or by threatening long and expensive court trials, or he paid them off.

... a statement which you are now going to backup with a whole lotta' evidence .... not opinion ... not propaganda ... but evidence.  Right?

[quintessentone]

... a statement which you are now going to backup with a whole lotta' evidence .... not opinion ... not propaganda ... but evidence.  Right?

That is how he shut up Ivana, by giving her millions of dollars. Remember the "catch and kill"?

"Over the course of the 2016 presidential campaign, prosecutors claim that Trump, Cohen and Pecker collaborated on at least three occasions to execute this so-called "catch and kill" scheme -- to silence a onetime doorman at a Trump-owned property, a former Playboy model, and adult film actress Stormy Daniels."

Inside the 3 so-called 'catch and kill' payments in Trump's indictment - ABC News

You must be kidding us.

[FlyersFan]

 prosecutors claim  ...a onetime doorman at a Trump-owned property, a former Playboy model, and adult film actress Stormy Daniels."

Prosecutors 'CLAIM'.   Okay.  

The doorman was a man and that was gossip he was claiming.
The playboy model was Stormy Daniels and was consensual.

Trump is a disgusting piece of adultering garbage ... even he admits that he's not getting into heaven ... but Stormy Daniels wasn't rape, and there was no proof of any 'threats to safety' which is what you claimed.  (unless you can provide it for 'many' women ... that was your claim)  Also, paying off someone means that they CONSENT to being paid off.   It's a sure sign of slime on his part, but it's not illegal and no one forces people to accept a payoff.

You used the word 'many' in regards to Trump threatening the safety of women whom he screwed around with.   Still waiting on that evidence.

Edited to add ... the dictionary online definition of 'many' - Many is 'a large number of people'.    Dictionary definition of 'A Large number of people" - A "large number of people" is subjective but generally means more than a few, often perceived as 20 or more, but can range from a crowd (dozens/hundreds) at an event to a multitude (thousands/millions) in society, depending heavily on context—a

[KrustyKrab]

Carroll is a lying crazy piece of thieving crap.
Her rape story is garbage and completely unbelievable.
Actually, she and Trump are a perfect couple.
Both crazy grifters and serial liars.

However, the victims of this Epstein thing are real and it's horrific.
The children and young people who were abused are true victims.
They can not be blamed at all for what happened to them.

Yes she is, the more I dove into that story and learned about her and the people involved in the case, I was disgusted that it was even allowed to move forward.  It was all hearsay, no evidence, no witnesses, no video, nothing, she didn’t even remember what year it happened, the dress she said she was wearing wasn’t even made for years later, she even said her words, that she wasn’t raped.  It goes on and on from there including strange directions coming from the judge.  Yep it was a sham case for sure and it happened while she was promoting her book that bashes men.  

As far as Epstein’s victims it was horrific what happened to those kids and they were no doubt victims but there’s a couple that decided to make it a profitable venture knowing full well what they were doing was illegal and wrong but continued to do it anyways because of the money.  They were old enough to know better and could’ve walked away but didn’t.  That was just a couple of them that didn’t seem to have any or much remorse for what they did.  One in particular.   

So, there’s one or two that don’t get a pass from me.  I certainly don’t discount the rest from being victims in any manner.  As I think you know I’ve was very active on ats, here and elsewhere on social media about speaking out about the trafficking of children, especially that the democrat party did for 4 years.   Probably ad nausium but as I mentioned earlier in another post it’s extremely close to home for me and hits a little different than maybe most, IDK.  

Good news is that I read today that this administration has rescued over 120k minors that the Biden administration trafficked into the country.  

That’s another reason it makes me sick when I here anyone on the left claiming they care about children and the the Epstein girls when they’ve completely ignored that the party they support was trafficking children and humans in general and they ignored it for 4 years.  They don’t really care.  It was just collateral damage for their agenda, they couldn’t care less about those kids or the Epstein girls.  .

[FlyersFan]

 It was all hearsay, no evidence, no witnesses, no video, nothing, she didn’t even remember what year it happened, the dress she said she was wearing wasn’t even made for years later, she even said her words, that she wasn’t raped.  It goes on and on from there ...

add in the fact that she's bat crap crazy.
I wonder how the cat would feel if it knew what it's name meant.

[KrustyKrab]

add in the fact that she's bat crap crazy.
I wonder how the cat would feel if it knew what its name meant.

Yeppers she’s out in left field about as far as you can get.  

I’d like to buy a V for $500 Alex ​​​​​​​   What a nutcase!