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(04-02-2025, 10:41 AM)sahgwa Wrote: I am probably just stupid, but my whole point was that you are contradicting yourself, and your recent response just in my mind further 'solidifies' the contradiction.
You are posting all of the spots near the Great Lakes that are shown to be above the safe level of PFAS , yet in your OP you are stating that that area is cleaner than other places?
Yeah I see the other function that shows 'below' but there are as many 'above' or more. Are you saying they cancel each other out?
The whole premise makes no sense. Especially trying to tie PFAS into human behaviour, specifically political.
These chemicals are shown to link to liver and kidney, thyroid, and testicular cancers, and high cholesterol but I dont see anything about behaviour.
So isnt Cognitive Function isnt behavior?
- PFAS, or "forever chemicals," can accumulate in the brain and may lead to neurotoxicity, potentially causing neurological disorders, including neurodegeneration and mental health issues, through disruptions in neurotransmission.
- Here's a more detailed explanation:
- PFAS Accumulation and Neurotoxicity:
- PFAS are a group of persistent environmental pollutants that can accumulate in the human brain.
- They can cross the blood-brain barrier and accumulate in brain tissue.
- This accumulation can lead to neurotoxicity, meaning they can damage the brain and nervous system.
- Studies suggest that PFAS exposure can disrupt neurotransmission, particularly the dopamine and glutamate systems.
- These systems are involved in various brain functions, including motor control, mood, and cognitive function.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10446502/
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Well darn good thing too, living in America is becoming much more difficult if you can't internalize or convincingly fake the requisite conformity.
Every little bit helps.
Fascism requires a certain level of neuro-plasticity. Who would have thought it to be so literal?
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(04-02-2025, 12:35 PM)Waterglass Wrote: So isnt Cognitive Function isnt behavior?
- PFAS, or "forever chemicals," can accumulate in the brain and may lead to neurotoxicity, potentially causing neurological disorders, including neurodegeneration and mental health issues, through disruptions in neurotransmission.
- Here's a more detailed explanation:
- PFAS Accumulation and Neurotoxicity:
- PFAS are a group of persistent environmental pollutants that can accumulate in the human brain.
- They can cross the blood-brain barrier and accumulate in brain tissue.
- This accumulation can lead to neurotoxicity, meaning they can damage the brain and nervous system.
- Studies suggest that PFAS exposure can disrupt neurotransmission, particularly the dopamine and glutamate systems.
- These systems are involved in various brain functions, including motor control, mood, and cognitive function.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10446502/
OK that is good information; thank you.
Nevertheless, linking them solely to extremist political behaviour seems a bit of a stretch, especially when the same areas have just as much dirty spots as clean spots.
Don't the 'progressive' types always get filtered water at like Whole Foods too? lol
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(04-02-2025, 12:41 PM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Fascism requires a certain level of neuro-plasticity. Who would have thought it to be so literal?
I love it :D
lol
Speaking seriously, Fascism in it's totalitarian form (yes there are others) is most definitely a lizard-brain scope/specialty.
A lot of people become very totalitarian when they are drunk, it's like the power and basic rawness appeal to the simple lizard brain.
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I made this a while ago and it still works great...
DIY Activated Charcoal Filter.
I save a few litres in bottles of the newly filtered water to flush it every few months when I clean it out. Crystal clear and fewer nasties. I'm sure it doesn't get everything bad out of the water but it's a good start.
Wisdom knocks quietly, always listen carefully. And never hit "SEND" or "REPLY" without engaging brain first.
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(04-02-2025, 11:32 AM)rickymouse Wrote: I am wondering if fluoride added to water makes any plastic particles in the water more bio-available. Fluoride does tie to things like Calcium and magnesium and help to shuffle it through the gut, but it also combines with tiny other molecules. So does it combine with these plastic particles in food and water and increase uptake by the gut and even by the skin which does intake nutrients too?
I have not found any research addressing this issue, but is the lack of research because nobody has actually thought to research it because they have not thought of it as happening? I am sure that those in the FDA and CDC would probably reject any research funding that could make them looked liable since they pushed the fluoride in water over the years. When you read that there are now equivalent to the amount of plastic in a plastic spoon in people's brains, it makes me think that because fluoride can increase the amount of things getting through the blood brain barrier, it may have something to do with it.
It is not the first time that government agencies and pharma companies have not evaluated things correctly. It is not the first time that these agencies covered up their mistakes too.
Good point to investigate... but.... who profits directly from the outcome...
I mean which 'business' because 'us' doesn't seem to be the correct answer...
The same line of inquiry could be applied to the mix of anti-depressants and psychoactive drugs (and other "acceptable-level" chemicals in our water)...
Still... it would be a fair start if they did study that, I think.
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(04-01-2025, 09:09 AM)Waterglass Wrote: I have attached two links to two articles. What I have seen in the USA is that people over the last several decades have become crazy and non law abiding. IMO crossing a border is illegal as in illegal alien aka migrant. So is making illegal Fentanyl in ones lilly white "One Percenters" back yards. On the original issue one could argue with those having TDS as they simply tell a Trump supporter to leave a restrauant just because your a Republican. Thats bizarre way over the top discriminatory behavior. Plus.................
https://www.consumerreports.org/water-co...303943293/
Wow, thats really Nazi Germany stuff from the 1930's
So are people going off the reservation mentally because they are demonically possessed or something else. PFAS could be the something else and they are everywhere. I also attached an interactive map last updated March 2025. Based on my home in South Carolina the water throughout the state is contaminated with PFAS. I would agree with that based upon the number of people who act like they are crazy down here. FYI, South Carolina drivers are the 2nd WORST in the entire USA. Look it up.
So take a look at California and New York City. So what do you think of the majority of people who live there. Good, decent or out of control crazy people? I say out of control based on their leaders bailing on their constituant US citizens and supporting those who come here illegally. That plus all those illegal drugs. Nothing seems to get better.
Then take a peek at the Great Lakes. water seems to be OK and those people tend to be hard working and grounded.
https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/pfa...gJ_wfD_BwE
Yes, No, maybe?
Coincidence.
The "craziness" is cultural, not chemical. There are other places with PFAS levels as high or even higher: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfas-foreve...worldwide/
You're conflating leaders with people in general and with laws that you don't like. I can assure you that the people in any place, no matter how polluted, are just like your neighbors. Same amount of craziness. Different diseases, however.
The amount of PFAS depends on the water source. In general, the farther away from the "head" (where the river starts) of the source, the more polluted. So here in Texas, the PFAS (which is affected by industrial dumping, waste (including dog and cattle poop), roadway (tire particles) runoff in Ft Worth is lower than in Dallas. Ft Worth is upstream on the Trinity from Dallas, and we get all their problems plus whatever's been contributed by the mid-cities.
Underground wells are NOT proof against this. https://www.epa.gov/sciencematters/addre...ed-sources
The map may be outdated by now and monitoring this will probably not be a high priority. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/...rch-office
Your best bet for an accurate measurement may be a home testing kit, but they are pricey, IMHO. https://www.amazon.com/Professional-Wate...B08LXF917J
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(04-02-2025, 09:44 PM)Byrd Wrote: Coincidence.
The "craziness" is cultural, not chemical. There are other places with PFAS levels as high or even higher: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfas-foreve...worldwide/
You're conflating leaders with people in general and with laws that you don't like. I can assure you that the people in any place, no matter how polluted, are just like your neighbors. Same amount of craziness. Different diseases, however.
The amount of PFAS depends on the water source. In general, the farther away from the "head" (where the river starts) of the source, the more polluted. So here in Texas, the PFAS (which is affected by industrial dumping, waste (including dog and cattle poop), roadway (tire particles) runoff in Ft Worth is lower than in Dallas. Ft Worth is upstream on the Trinity from Dallas, and we get all their problems plus whatever's been contributed by the mid-cities.
Underground wells are NOT proof against this. https://www.epa.gov/sciencematters/addre...ed-sources
The map may be outdated by now and monitoring this will probably not be a high priority. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/...rch-office
Your best bet for an accurate measurement may be a home testing kit, but they are pricey, IMHO. https://www.amazon.com/Professional-Wate...B08LXF917J
Well done and thank you.
I used three examples of three states of what I didnt like. The radicalized government in Caifornia run by a Catholic, the radicalized government in New York State run by a Catholic and the crazy people in South Carolina, a Trump loving far right wing dont tell me what to do population of supposed "conservatives". Beleive me the spin on that they are religious is a farce.
I was born in New York State and grew up there. It was high tax BUT it was civilized. People had respect for each other and law. That isnt the case where I live today in South Carolina, a state run by Republicans.
I tossed out the PFAS as a potential cause based on the March 2025 graph who has been pooped on by many here. One even said its mine. NO it isnt is from a 3rd party and so tell me whay would a 3rd party lie.
So now we debate that the charts arent vaild. Same ole as same ole back in the days of ATS. The discussion goes no where and dies. Father INTEL would want that.
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(04-01-2025, 09:35 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: most americans drink the same water supply that they use for flushing their toilets. don't do that.
Isnt that true with all peoples in the world regardless of whether or not they use a toilet, pit, outhouse, cystern or whatever? What about buried dead people leeching back into the drinking water?
Possibly the Arabs are the best caretakers of the world if they take a dump in the desert, in the sand, it dessicates as all moisture evaporates and the physical portion disintegrates.
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okay this is like spending $1000 on a mattress that doesn't destroy your back... you don't really want to have to, but it's important to body health in the long run.
$650 for water distiller like this
$50 for a pressurized reserve tank like this
$150 for a pressure pump like this
$50 for a sink spigot like this
you can put the stuff in your basement or laundry room and run the line up to your kitchen. yeah it's like $900 but worth in the long run for health and if you buy bottled or filtered water add it up and you will be surprised how quickly it pays for itself.
anyway there is a possible solution instead of bickering about studies like waterglass mentioned we tend to do haha!
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