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How the corruption of science has impacted public perception.
#91
(09-15-2025, 01:21 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I was replying specifically on your post re: keep birth defects. Hey, people are free to select whatever gene editing they want to remove whatever they want, it's none of my business.

Autism is not born in the wrong body, it's been around since the dawn of humanity as per empirical science's new study.
So you haven't been able to use empirical evidence to figure out I am talking about chemicals and minerals that cause birth defects yet?

Of course not. You in your infinite wisdom have concluded, with your empirical evidence. I would like to edit children.  

You are going to find this hard to believe, well I know you won't believe it. As it does not fit into your agenda.

If you remove the substances that causes birth defects. Then guess what. You have less birth defects. I know it's a crazy idea, not supported by empirical science. 

Oh an one last thing. You can't put together which group of people are born in the wrong body either? Really? I mean REALLY?
                                   
#92
(09-15-2025, 02:35 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: So you can quit with the after the fact deflections. But I suppose if there was a after the fact cure. You guys wouldn't want it.

My mom was a polio victim -- I'm thankful to Dr. Jonas Salk -- and science.

There is nothing new about external "stuff" foreign to the human body affecting it.

But you want to blame plastics for Autism -- when plastic has only been around for little over 100 years.

Autism pre-ceeds that.
#93
(09-15-2025, 02:41 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: So you haven't been able to use empirical evidence to figure out I am talking about chemicals and minerals that cause birth defects yet?

Of course not. You in your infinite wisdom have concluded, with your empirical evidence. I would like to edit children.  

You are going to find this hard to believe, well I know you won't believe it. As it does not fit into your agenda.

If you remove the substances that causes birth defects. Then guess what. You have less birth defects. I know it's a crazy idea, not supported by empirical science. 

Oh an one last thing. You can't put together which group of people are born in the wrong body either? Really? I mean REALLY?

I offered you new research but as you always say to me - that you can't be bothered reading any science studies.

Maybe 2nd time is the charm?

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Why Does Autism Still Exist? | Psychology Today

Why does autism still exist, because ... nature.
"The only journey is the one within."
#94
(09-15-2025, 01:47 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I am pro science -- and not necessarily against gene therapy.  But it sure as Hell must be monitored and regulated.  No one needs another Josef Mengele.

I posted earlier a link to:  "Born Different" on Facebook -- so many anomalies -- what's the obsession with Autism.  Of course, that was brushed aside with a negative comment.

There's even pre-birth surgery -- where the baby is removed from the womb -- operated on -- and put back into the mother's uterus.

But messing with the brain wiring pre-birth?  That's extreme.

https://www.facebook.com/BornDifferentShow/

Well that's what I meant by removing ingredients from the soup which may or may not affect the other ingredients by rewiring the brain or inventing new drugs that may rewire or change the brain.

I suppose the interest in Autism and the spectrum is because some of it is looked at as something that just doesn't fit into preconceived societal accepted ways of being.
"The only journey is the one within."
#95
(09-15-2025, 02:59 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Well that's what I meant by removing ingredients from the soup which may or may not affect the other ingredients by rewiring the brain or inventing new drugs that may rewire or change the brain.

I suppose the interest in Autism and the spectrum is because some of it is looked at as something that just doesn't fit into preconceived societal accepted ways of being.

I support Genetic Screening -- pre-examination of eggs/fetus for any inherited anomaly.

"God's Gift" is stupid if you know you have something you could pass on to your child.

Some articles about brain scans say sociopath's are born -- it is detected in their brain scans.

I'm a big supporter of brain scan science.  IF science gets to the point they can successfully manipulate brain neurons -- I'd support it.

I don't think we're quite there yet.
#96
(09-15-2025, 02:59 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I suppose the interest in Autism and the spectrum is because some of it is looked at as something that just doesn't fit into preconceived societal accepted ways of being.
 
Yes.  "Treatment" is actually behavior modification -- to fit preconceived societal acceptance.

I'm very fortunate that my kid is in a school that accepts and works with him.  He is high functioning -- but tends to live in his head in his world.  So, sitting still, focusing on an assignment, is challenging.  Plus keeping him emotionally balanced.  If he has a meltdown -- the teachers know to let him go outside and work through it.
#97
(09-15-2025, 02:47 PM)ANNEE Wrote: My mom was a polio victim -- I'm thankful to Dr. Jonas Salk -- and science.

There is nothing new about external "stuff" foreign to the human body affecting it.

But you want to blame plastics for Autism -- when plastic has only been around for little over 100 years.

Autism pre-ceeds that.
 You have no evidence of that. You people make it up as you go.
                                   
#98
(09-15-2025, 02:48 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I offered you new research but as you always say to me - that you can't be bothered reading any science studies.

Maybe 2nd time is the charm?

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Why Does Autism Still Exist? | Psychology Today

Why does autism still exist, because ... nature.

You people just have some sort of brain block going on. Maybe you are autistic, I don't know. And frankly I don't care. It's this simple. A lot of conditions know to exist before the industrial age, can be caused and is caused by the industrial age.
                                   
#99
(09-15-2025, 03:27 PM)ANNEE Wrote:  
Yes.  "Treatment" is actually behavior modification -- to fit preconceived societal acceptance.

I'm very fortunate that my kid is in a school that accepts and works with him.  He is high functioning -- but tends to live in his head in his world.  So, sitting still, focusing on an assignment, is challenging.  Plus keeping him emotionally balanced.  If he has a meltdown -- the teachers know to let him go outside and work through it.

It was a long time coming IMO where society has caught up to the realities of the different levels of how people function cognitively and know which treatment or action to take... a very long time.
"The only journey is the one within."
(09-15-2025, 05:16 PM)Unknownparadox Wrote: You people just have some sort of brain block going on. Maybe you are autistic, I don't know. And frankly I don't care. It's this simple. A lot of conditions know to exist before the industrial age, can be caused and is caused by the industrial age.

Definitely!

It is genetic -- and I see myself in many of the behaviors.

Which is a good thing -- because it makes it easier to understand him and where he's coming from.