How the corruption of science has impacted public perception.

[chivo]

Mind cucked

is that a thing or I just made it up?
Either way, the only reason I see anyone at this point still trying to defend the obvious toxic business of big pharma (and their grip on public policy making) is that they have been invaded in the mind, they are under decades of brain washing and propaganda. 

Another motivation can be that they make a living of marketing drugs, so that's understandable, everyone has to make a living on something right?

[quintessentone]

Mind cucked

is that a thing or I just made it up?
Either way, the only reason I see anyone at this point still trying to defend the obvious toxic business of big pharma (and their grip on public policy making) is that they have been invaded in the mind, they are under decades of brain washing and propaganda. 

Another motivation can be that they make a living of marketing drugs, so that's understandable, everyone has to make a living on something right?

I think the tide is turning because I read where doctors are just now discussing, in depth, that giving the elderly lots of drugs actually harms them.

What Caregivers Can Do When You Suspect Overmedication

I also have seen some medical videos where doctors really don't understand how the body metabolizes cholesterol, as an example, and are prescribing drugs when they should not be.

[chivo]

I think the tide is turning because I read where doctors are just now discussing, in depth, that giving the elderly lots of drugs actually harms them.

What Caregivers Can Do When You Suspect Overmedication

I also have seen some medical videos where doctors really don't understand how the body metabolizes cholesterol, as an example, and are prescribing drugs when they should not be.

Drug dealers are drug dealers.

And I don't think you have to go through 7 years of formal education to become a medic or physician to know that old folks depending on drugs every day is NOT good for the overall health. 

Common sense and independent intelligent thought is not a thing on Earth 2025

[Unknownparadox]

That question is rather vapid.

Why have power tools, or cooking equipment, or electricity, or farming machinery, or cars, or anything that might, throught some circumstance, potentially lead to loss of life?

How many people could potentionally drown in a bucket of water?

However, I had already addressed your concerns in the post before the one you quoted.

The issue is nuanced, the formulations and doses are varied, as are the situations and interactions of meds and foods, and the ONLY protection we as consumers have, are the agencies such as the FDA (that was being maligned in previous posts).

Do you imagine that people are helped by the removal of such agencies, their investigations, the subsequent legal actions and statutory protections?

That's a very nice deflection.

[quintessentone]

Drug dealers are drug dealers.

And I don't think you have to go through 7 years of formal education to become a medic or physician to know that old folks depending on drugs every day is NOT good for the overall health. 

Common sense and independent intelligent thought is not a thing on Earth 2025

Well what with the advancements in gene editing and RNA messenger delivered disease fighting methods, we may very well see the use of drug diminish greatly very soon.

[Jackle]

The “Henry Ford Health System Analysis”: how RFKJr and his minions made themselves even more ridiculous

This would be great analysis, from a clearly very credentialed man, and thus a strong authority, except that it ignores the following:  when the researchers accounted for and removed this bias from the data, it still showed the same conclusions.  Thus suggesting that "Edzard Ernst (MD, PhD, MAE, FMedSci, FRSB, FRCP, FRCPEd)" to have left the word clown out of his credentials.

Researchers found unvaccinated children healthier vaccinated did not publish findings
 

Even after excluding unvaccinated children whose parents never took them to the doctor following birth, the vaccinated group still had an increased risk of developing a chronic health condition, the researchers stated, according to Zervos and the other researchers. They also analyzed the data at one, three, and five years following birth and found that the vaccinated children were still more likely to develop a chronic health condition. “Therefore, our findings do not appear to be due to differential use of health resources,” they wrote.

[chivo]

Well what with the advancements in gene editing and RNA messenger delivered disease fighting methods, we may very well see the use of drug diminish greatly very soon.

I thought there was no gene editing in those RNA mess vaxes? 
the use of drugs will not diminish any time soon, this is the business of the pharmaceutical industry. To provide clients drugs, there is the profit. Not in healthy people.

[putnam6]

Hmm.

Tens of thousands of authors and academics behind the current scientific side of the argument.

A few online naysayers, most who also lump together numerous other, often easily debunked, conspiracy theories.

Sorry but I will go with the majority as being far more credible.

No need to apologize if you are doing what's correct...

[quintessentone]

I thought there was no gene editing in those RNA mess vaxes? 
the use of drugs will not diminish any time soon, this is the business of the pharmaceutical industry. To provide clients drugs, there is the profit. Not in healthy people.

No, gene editing as in CRISPR is separate from the newer RNA messaging vaxes coming down the pipe.

But doing a quick search, it appears some drug companies are involved with CRISPR therapies, and also with RNA messaging vaxes, but them name them as 'biopharmas'. Same thing? So you are right, apparently the use of big pharma (are biopharms big pharma?) will always be involved.

[ANNEE]

For hundreds of years, there have been strong rules about scientific and academic papers, requiring peer review and repeatable empirical evidence and such.

However, some decades ago, the tobacco lobby decided to go on the attack because their products posed a significant and verified health risk, and they knew that it was just a matter of time before the authorities came after them. So they have had decades long campaigns of undermining and also 'flat out lying' about scientifically and academiclly verified knowledge. Their tactics have also been adopted by many other 'adjacent' groups, such as anti-vaxxers etc. (also, did you notice the "smoking 'cures' or 'prevents' COVID" nonsense that happened prior to 2022? Of course, smoking actually weakens peoples natural resistance to viral attack. Weird, eh, that people fall for that sort of obviously false stuff, and that there are some really evil people trying to make headway with such BS and kill people for meager profits?)

But, before 2016, government agencies collected statistics about all sorts of things. These statistics revealed trends and instances of unusual occurrences which were investigated and often led to prosecutions.

The current government, however, has closed and defunded most of these government departments because they were allegedly 'inefficient', and have replaced them as a data source, with right-wing social media posts favourable to the current vegetable in chief, and amplified through his propaganda channels.

If you recall, the current incumbent was also there when the data from these departments also became flaky, during the COVID pandemic. Do you remember that? Do you remember the actual locus of government power involved?

If the FDA and other government agencies are now ineffectual, I'd look at those who have ultimately controlled them over recent history, rather than the hands-on workers, many of whom are now no longer employed for some reason.

I just think this needs to be re-posted.