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06-24-2025, 10:24 AM
This post was last modified: 06-24-2025, 02:53 PM by Encia22. 
Sleep, good topic. 8 hours of sleep always makes me feel terrible. How much sleep do you get and is there is cycle/pattern for your sleep?
I sleep 4hours at night, doesn't really matter what time. If go to bed at 10 I wake up at 2. I also sleep 1-2 hours during the day if there is chance (no set time really), sometimes I will switch the cycle.
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Yes, not only an interesting topic a topic of total body and mind health.
Since retiring, my sleep pattern has become erratic, but I have the luxury to rest, nap, and/or sleep whenever the need arises. Also important is that I have learned how to not sweat that which I can not control.
That's why some times you will see me here on this site at 3 in the morning because I woke 'wide awake'.
I let my body guide my sleep habits and I feel good.
"The only journey is the one within."
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would also be interested in hearing if people think their caffeine alcohol cannabis use affects their sleep.
usually 5-6 hours but it varies and i do love to nap and somehow the total length of times doesn't really matter, moreso i seem to almost always wake at sunrise or at whatever time i woke the day before if my schedule's really off, even if it's only 2-3 hours.
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Between 5 and 7 hours a night. Takes a bit more to drop off these days as used to drink every night that helped fall asleep but had to go abstinate due to failing liver and heart, it's like watch a wildlife doc these days the elephants giraffes etc help drop off or go the internet read a book. Hardly ever dream anymore since becoming 100% in reality. About 5 hours on buildup and post 2 days of full moon then around 7 hours rest of the month.
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(06-24-2025, 10:43 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: would also be interested in hearing if people think their caffeine alcohol cannabis use affects their sleep.
I rate the effects over rated and people build up tolerances. The issues are eventually crashing and the illness will disrupt sleep. Stopping also 100% disrupts sleep with sever migraines, fever and vomiting.
100% agree with @ quintessentone in letting my body guide me.
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Due to my standard office schedule I tend to go to bed around 2200 or so, and wake up around 0500 cuz of the cat. This means either reading more, and falling asleep at 2300, or being tired and falling asleep right when I get into bed.
So on a standard 'good' night I get about 7 hours which is perfect. Though that includes waking up in the middle of the night at least once to let him in the basement or to go to the bathroom.
On a bad night it's about 5 hours. Medium night 6.
I am cool with it if its at least 6 hours. Less and I feel tired during the day.
Things I notice effect me:
if I have a particularly good meditation session which includes breathwork/pranayama it seems to energise me, so I will be up longer reading and thinking.
If it's the weekend and I have wine during and after dinner, I will sleep faster (shocker).
If it's the weekend and I have no alcohol, but some tea, then on some nights my 'natural ' rhythm seems to be staying up reading till about 0200 and then sleeping till about 0800.
I am a night owl naturally in regards to preferring the 0200 to 0300 period and then sleeping till 8 or 9.
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(06-24-2025, 11:15 AM)Sirius Wrote: I rate the effects over rated and people build up tolerances. The issues are eventually crashing and the illness will disrupt sleep. Stopping also 100% disrupts sleep with sever migraines, fever and vomiting.
100% agree with @quintessentone in letting my body guide me.
I like the uppity effect of caffeine so i try to not build a tolerance, so i only have coffee on weekends, cuz its strong.
I like the relaxing and creative effect of booze so I try not to build a tolerance so i only have booze on weekends, cuz its also easy to get used to. :)
During the week I just have water, juice or green tea. Or rare occasions black tea.
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Goona.
Sir Thomas Angrove invented the best thing ever, it was the goona bag and it changed the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Angove
I was not here.
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Coffee will effect me for at least 12 hours, and I'm still drinking it right now! No sleep until about 2 AM after that.
I can adjust to most schedules but I prefer a sun up sun down approach to sleeping. However, that changes throughout the year with the seasons, so I try for a midnight to 6 or 7 am for my sleeping hours. That gets me around 6 hours of sleep time, or bed rest if nothing else.
With a terrible bed, more sleep means more pain during the day, while the lack of sleep is harmful to overall health. Some nights are better spent on the recliner, or on the floor in a pile of straw, when compared to the demon bed from hell and the nightly torture it brings.
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I'm too up/down to average more than 6 hours most of the time. It is about 4½ hours when cycling high, 9 hours when cycling low. Although I don't like to call it bipolar disorder. Because the cycle is more between introversion/sloth and extroversion/let's go hike a freaking mountain!
The mind usually needs white or green noise to shut itself up, because high cycles are mostly nocturnal and interfere with nightly rest.
I will occasionally try ASMR, although there is a point where ASMR starts working really in reverse.
It's not working when you start wanting to choke them.
I compare the uses of ASMR like "The Pax". It's between going to sleep and dying on Miranda vs turning into a reever and wanting to jam knives into my ears or tear off the head of the ASMR girl.
Alot of things have reverse effect.
Sativa and indica, depending on cycle, reverse, but still work WAY better than all the freaking pharma drugs they tried on me as a teenager. Some of which, like SSRIs, also worked in reverse and made me want to die, which was actually worse than just wanting to be left alone to figure things out for myself...
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