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(02-24-2025, 11:27 AM)putnam6 Wrote: So let's get this straight kids today aren't motivated because corporations buy intellectual properties for hundreds of millions of dollars if not billions?
Pretty sure Ian Fleming and his family are mostly content with Bonds arc. Besides you can do as Stephen King does sell his stories piecemeal and to those who will expose and support your political narratives
I have found the 20 somethings I talk to at work and the like, are not into creating for money and selling out as much as keeping their artistic integrity. Mind you, I could just work with freaks. lol
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(02-24-2025, 11:42 AM)sahgwa Wrote: I have found the 20 somethings I talk to at work and the like, are not into creating for money and selling out as much as keeping their artistic integrity. Mind you, I could just work with freaks. lol
That's heartening. Hopefully, the era of deconstructionism as art-in-iteself is near over. I can understand, the post-WWII generation sure established a lot of cultural baggage; good or not art can often require it to be cleared lest it stifle. Like George Bush going to his ranch to "clear brush", lol. Or his father getting caught on a hot mic ranting with Larry King about decongestant.
Anyway much as I have like James Bond it's very much a Cold War boomer thing. Especially the womanizing. And it's just not the same without the womanizing. I do like Q and his toys though. Especially that underwater Lotus from The Spy Who Loved Me. And the lasers. Oh the lasers. Fun stuff.
Hope they do well by the franchise. Men need to wear more perfect suits.
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(02-24-2025, 11:42 AM)sahgwa Wrote: I have found the 20 somethings I talk to at work and the like, are not into creating for money and selling out as much as keeping their artistic integrity. Mind you, I could just work with freaks. lol
Perhaps my daughters and nieces and nephews certainly don't seem as capitalistic and materialistic, however, the new-gen social media mavens are all about the benjamins
Not to mention you can do both but you have to be incredibly disciplined even then not every artist churns out billion-dollar franchises and FWIW this will likely be the darker side of AI. Where AI will start writing stories creating characters and the owners will be the AI company wiping out the original human source.
It isn't there yet but it is coming its like the Carlin AI it wasn't good at all because it went over the top but
if they tweak it, which they will it could easily replace less well-known mega franchises like Carlin was.
Quote:The family firm continued growing, long after Ian died in 1964, until 2000 when the family sold Robert Fleming & Co. to Chase Manhattan Bank for over $7 billion.
His mind was not for rent to any god or government, always hopeful yet discontent. Knows changes aren't permanent, but change is ....
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(02-24-2025, 11:51 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: That's heartening. Hopefully, the era of deconstructionism as art-in-iteself is near over. I can understand, the post-WWII generation sure established a lot of cultural baggage; good or not art can often require it to be cleared lest it stifle. Like George Bush going to his ranch to "clear brush", lol. Or his father getting caught on a hot mic ranting with Larry King about decongestant.
Anyway much as I have like James Bond it's very much a Cold War boomer thing. Especially the womanizing. And it's just not the same without the womanizing. I do like Q and his toys though. Especially that underwater Lotus from The Spy Who Loved Me. And the lasers. Oh the lasers. Fun stuff.
Hope they do well by the franchise. Men need to wear more perfect suits.
Everybody likes babes
I think women these days would be happy to be Bond girls as long as they get more respect than the Connery films.
The 80s ones were not so lopsided.
I rebought Golden Eye and World but haven't rewatched them yet , since they were new.
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(02-24-2025, 12:01 PM)putnam6 Wrote: Perhaps my daughters and nieces and nephews certainly don't seem as capitalistic and materialistic, however, the new-gen social media mavens are all about the benjamins
Not to mention you can do both but you have to be incredibly disciplined even then not every artist churns out billion-dollar franchises and FWIW this will likely be the darker side of AI. Where AI will start writing stories creating characters and the owners will be the AI company wiping out the original human source.
It isn't there yet but it is coming its like the Carlin AI it wasn't good at all because it went over the top but
if they tweak it, which they will it could easily replace less well-known mega franchises like Carlin was.
In a lot of ways I think family selling out author's rights is even worse than film rights.
A book in my opinion, due to it's singular nature, has more of it's authors heart and soul in it.
I cringe every time I see mention of the LOTR stuff, post Peter Jackson, since I think he did it justice. But Amazon, again, ?!
Christopher Tolkein did it for the benjamins.
And also publishing manuscripts not meant for consumption, like notes and drafts.
I think it's disrespectful and the author would be pissed.
I just read a Philip K Dick book that they found in his desk in the 1980s. its basically the draft version for the Valis trilogy. I am sure that wasn't meant to be put out either.
Anyway, grumbling.
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02-24-2025, 01:16 PM
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Tend to agree with Mr Inbetween but did love Moore in 'The Spy Who Loved Me'
Extraordinarily bad news about Bezos getting hold of this franchise after what he did to LOTR (which was utter dogshit) - haven't these people got anything better to do?
Guess we'll see but don't hold out much hope for the new films lol.
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