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Happy Easter Deny Ignorance
#11
Maybe when I was younger.

It went nowhere though. Sorta a dead end therein. Anton was a plagiarizing douchebag anyway. Just go to his sources like Ayn Rand. You can remain adjacent without the nihilist anti-altruism shit.

That's the world you alluded to. It is okay to say Happy Easter, but the secular folks demand it be inclusive to the other holidays. Not intended to be offensive.
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#12
(04-20-2025, 01:23 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Maybe when I was younger.

It went nowhere though. Sorta a dead end therein. Anton was a plagiarizing douchebag anyway. Just go to his source.

That's the world you alluded to. It is okay to say Happy Easter, but the secular folks demand it be inclusive to the other holidays. Not intended to be offensive.

Im not offended, not trying to convert either... 

One can have thier beliefs and still have a sense of humor. 

All groups are demanding shit nowadays... some just have different methods
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#13
I blame the Byzantine for my comment. While Mel Gibson's take was somewhat disconcerting I have always liked the modern version. Nothing against resurrections (I view it like a self-immolation for greater good parable)

Like he rises from the dead though his example.

Though I have in the past used Satan things as a troll mobile (like TST and DJT) and enjoyed screwing around with it's essence and contradictions. It's coming from a liberal college religious studies/reform jew perspective.

Where christ resurrection is closer to the samsara of the spirit of doing good will towards humanity regardless of how your pushed to do otherwise. Even if you don't believe in a literal resurrection it's a worthy parable of ethics and integrity. Just only a little out of place for a coopted seasonal celebration.

I really wasn't intending to be a downer or make it about a liberal agenda.
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#14
Jesus Christ this place is a ghost town today.

OOPS, wrong thread....... Spin

Isn't today a MaryJane holiday too?

DAMNIT - there I go again....... Lol
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#15
(04-20-2025, 11:07 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: [Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/image...456487.jpg]

Rabbits don't lay eggs.
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#16
I am kind of surprised...

I wonder... did that feel good to you?

I can't relate to the impulse.
Is it, trash Christianity?  Is that the game?

Most know there is a time for silence...
But not all.
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#17
(04-20-2025, 11:49 AM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: Of course

But you must point out the origin of Easter as the pagan Ostera, a celebration of the equinox and spring.

You must be aware that egg decoration is symbolic of new life and fertility, with the feast and imagery dating back centuries. Usually fruits and lamb. Like Christmas, today's Easter is mostly a Germanic pagan-Christian hybrid of the two competing spring holidays.

The Missing 411 is funny though. Please let me know when people find Jesus, because i don't think anyone knows where he is anymore. Check Valhalla and Zoroaster's Paradise too.

Easter has nothing to do with observance of the equinox. Easter's timing was originally based on the Jewish calendar 'feast of Passover' (a multi-day event), which has been observed for at least 3,000 years in the Levant. Because the Jewish calendar is lunar, Passover coincides with the equinox.

Christians have adopted parts of the Jewish celebration as the time period of the Crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth was originally coincident with the days of the Hebrew feast, and it was thematically linked, too. However, most Christians over the centuries have used calendars that are solar or lunisolar, and so the dates have diverged.

The Paschal (Passover) event of Jesus' death and resurrection has been celebrated across the world for about 2,000 years, in cultures that know nothing of an Anglo-Saxon language, or goddess. The origins of Easter were in the death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth about AD33.

The single historical mention of a goddess called Ēostre was by Bede, in the 8th Century CE and does not equate the equinox, nor rabbits, nor eggs to her. It has been argued that the goddess was actually an invention of Bede, definitely, many of the details are later speculative additions and are historically unevidenced. It is my belief that there may have been a Saxon goddess by that name, but I will not speculate further.

Ēostre - Wikipedia

The month name Eastermonað in West Saxon language is cognate with 'the East and the dawn' and wasn't necessarily anything to do with observance of a goddess and the use of a pre-existing month name does not imply that Christians were practicing pagan rites at all. We do something similar when we talk of Wednesday and Thursday without even the slightest thought about the Marvel comic characters.

Here is a paper by an archaeologist with expertise in Anglo-Saxon linguistics:

From Easter to Ostara: the Reinvention of a Pagan Goddess?

It could simply be that the attribution of Easter to Ēostre/Ostara is just a Dan Brownesque construction based upon a vastly stretched similarity of words.

The use of eggs in celebration of Pesach originated in the Northern Middle East. Traditionally, Christians fasted for Lent and hard-boiled eggs would keep safely for a few days, and so were available as food when the fast was broken at Pesach. The eggs came to be ceremonially blessed and decorated as the tradition developed.

The Easter Bunny was a specifically Lutheran tradition. An Easter Hare would bring decorated eggs and sweets to children that had been 'good' over the Lenten fast.

Easter Bunny - Wikipedia

- They still haven't located the body, after millennia of trying...

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#19
(04-20-2025, 05:02 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Easter has nothing to do with observance of the equinox. Easter's timing was originally based on the Jewish calendar 'feast of Passover' (a multi-day event), which has been observed for at least 3,000 years in the Levant. Because the Jewish calendar is lunar, Passover coincides with the equinox. However Christians have adopted parts of the Jewish celebration as the Crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth was originally coincident with the days of the Hebrew feast, and was thematically linked, too. However most Christians over the centuries have used calendars that are solar or lunisolar, and so the dates have diverged.

The Paschal (Passover) event of Jesus' death and resurrection has been celebrated across the world for about 2,000 years, in cultures that know nothing of an Anglo-Saxon language, or goddess. The origins of Easter were in the death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth about AD33.

The single historical mention of a goddess called Ēostre was by Bede, in the 8th Century CE and does not equate the equinox, nor rabbits, nor eggs to her. It has been argued that the goddess was actually an invention of Bede, definitely, many of the details are later speculative additions and are historically unevidenced. It is my belief that there may have been a Saxon goddess by that name, but I will not speculate further.

Ēostre - Wikipedia

The month name Eastermonað in West Saxon language is cognate with 'the East and the dawn' and wasn't necessarily anything to do with observance of a goddess and the use of a pre-existing month name does not imply that Christians were practicing pagan rites at all. We do something similar when we talk of Wednesday and Thursday without even the slightest thought about the Marvel comic characters.

Here is a paper by an archaeologist with expertise in Anglo-Saxon linguistics:

From Easter to Ostara: the Reinvention of a Pagan Goddess?

It could simply be that the attribution of Easter to Ēostre/Ostara is just a Dan Brownesque construction based upon a vastly stretched similarity of words.

I shouldn't have started it, but okay.

It's as connected in spring (and pastel themes) as Christmas is to Yule (and snow themes). In the transculturation sorta way.

You have festival of Hilaria (ancient Rome Equinox) called "Festival of Blood." Which actually was about resurrection. That's the one early Byzantine downplayed for the passion.

The Jesus > Equinox element is there.

But everything more current is German. The Hare. The eggs, the connection to spring and fertility.

It's an amalgam of et al.

In the same way Yule, Christmas, Saturnalia, and Sol Invictus are all sorta transculturated now.

That's what I was getting. And the bunny says I like the current German/Christian version!
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#20
Happy Easter all .
Most of all from my soul, happy resurrection of life after the cold.
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