Hands Off 2025

[KKLoco]

Sorry, retracted that before you posted.

After realizing Incel wasn't universal enough to qualify. While there is some annoying "might is right" Misogyny, it just parrots the elected administration.

I removed it because I felt it was too baiting (and emotion based) and unfair to the many women and non-incel guys that post there.

But circle jerk is still valid.

So if there was an overwhelming majority on this site, that had the same ideals as you -- would you consider that a circle jerk, as well?

I presume you must understand the point I'm making. The majority spoke - and cast their vote. It's not a 'circle jerk'.  It is simply the majority.

All that can change in an instant. However, it hasn't. So here we are......

[UltraBudgie]

The real circle jerk is the unspoken bipartisan agreement to exclude discussion or dissent about Gaza or Ukraine policy, and to isolate such from protests such as "Hands Off".

Maybe I'm not using that (somewhat misandrist?) phrase correctly, but it is gay.

[KKLoco]

The real circle jerk is the unspoken bipartisan agreement to exclude discussion or dissent about Gaza or Ukraine policy, and to isolate such from protests such as "Hands Off".

Maybe I'm not using that (somewhat misandrist?) phrase correctly, but it is gay.

Misanthrope?

[UltraBudgie]

Misanthrope?

Occasionally, yes, but I'm working on it.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

So if there was an overwhelming majority on this site, that had the same ideals as you -- would you consider that a circle jerk, as well?

I presume you must understand the point I'm making. The majority spoke - and cast their vote. It's not a 'circle jerk'.  It is simply the majority.

All that can change in an instant. However, it hasn't. So here we are......

Supermajority +

To be the equivalent it would need to be a 9 to 1 liberal advantage and uphold every Slate and Axios whining fact check verbatim, and ostracize those outside of their comfort zone.

Like a transgender thread at the polar opposite version would be a person OP'ing a thread titled.

"Be The You You Want To Be."

And it being all that is your wokest of nightmares compiled into a nauseating thread of identity pins and snowflake until the outsider comes along and calls them mentally diseased and delusional. At which point the majority would excessively star every comment bullying this trangressor's intolerance of others.

If there were thread after thread of that 9 to 1 liberal advantage, and the resulting axiom troll showdowns that follow, then it would be a comparable "circle jerk" of liberals.

Which would be as unbearable as an LGBT Facebook group.

Where you can get banned for mocking all the inclusive letters by posting that "HTIAISCTSLABMUZ" should be added in response to "2S" being added.

For "Humans that identify as incredibly strange creatures that stopped living and became mixed up zombies."

They want more than the "+"..

And never argue with a hive mind of far-left feminists that sexism, as hampering as it can appear, can be easily exploited with every traffic ticket successfully cried out of, they'll call you a sellout.

Similar circle jerks can be triggered with such comments. But it takes a near total (80%+) majority to occur.

[KKLoco]

Supermajority +

To be the equivalent it would need to be a 9 to 1 liberal advantage and uphold every Slate and Axios whining fact check verbatim, and ostracize those outside of their comfort zone.

Like a transgender thread at the polar opposite version would be a person OP'ing a thread titled.

"Be The You You Want To Be."

And it being all that is your wokest of nightmares compiled into a nauseating thread of identity pins and snowflake until the outsider comes along and calls them mentally diseased and delusional. At which point the majority would excessively star every comment bullying this trangressor's intolerance of others.

If there were thread after thread of that 9 to 1 liberal advantage, and the resulting axiom troll showdowns that follow, then it would be a comparable "circle jerk" of liberals.

Which would be as unbearable as an LGBT Facebook group.

Where you can get banned for mocking all the inclusive letters by posting that "HTIAISCTSLABMUZ" should be added in response to "2S" being added.

For "Humans that identify as incredibly strange creatures that stopped living and became mixed up zombies."

They want more than the "+"..

And never argue with a hive mind of far-left feminists that sexism, as hampering as it can appear, can be easily exploited with every traffic ticket successfully cried out of, they'll call you a sellout.

Similar circle jerks can be triggered with such comments. But it takes a near total (80%+) majority to occur.

There you go again. I asked you a very simple question. Your response is beyond elaborate and confusing. No judgment on my part but - WOW!

Some things just aren't that complicated. If it takes that much word salad to get your point across - do you feel it had the intended purpose?

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

There you go again. I asked you a very simple question. Your response is beyond elaborate and confusing. No judgment on my part but - WOW!

Some things just aren't that complicated. If it takes that much word salad to get your point across - do you feel it had the intended purpose?

My dearest apologies for being unnecessarily circumlocutory and providing maundering anecdotal articulation in my retort to your query.

I see what you are getting at.

And for DI to become a left-leaning equivalent of ATS it needs a 9 to 1 liberal advantage with an "in-crowd" that fosters an environment hostile to the opposite opinions.

It would need to be wall to wall Axios, Huff Post, Slate, and New Yorker parrots in an environment that considers everything else propaganda to treat with disdain.

And its tone would need to be favorable to only opinions that pass The Progressive Pelosi-Cortez Litmus test. And it would need to do this while thinking it holds a fair and balanced opinion that justifies piling on all opinions that clash. Then it would be the inverse "circle jerk"

And so I answer the question and let the thread get back on topic.

I don't like being around only opinions I agree with to the same extent I don't like super majority environments of opinions that bully all others into submission.

To me ATS became a very far right environment that liked to bully difference of opinion and congratulate itself with mutual admiration for being of the awakened cogniscenti. It gets old. Don't want that to happen here. No overwhelming supermajorities!

[Encia22]

I've forgotten what this thread was about. 

Let's get back on topic.

and

Please remember to go after the ball, not the player.



Do not respond to this post. Thanks

[UltraBudgie]

I think there's a larger thread weaving through this. The same reason that Hands Off couldn't incorporate expressions of opinion where there was polarizing divisiveness, even when there was otherwise fundamental agreement. It just had to go unspoken, or it would conflagrate, or be manipulated to conflagrate by opposition. It's a similar dynamic that you see in many discussion forums, editorial boards, etc. It's one of the reasons labour unions fail to get traction.

Civility is good.

[KKLoco]

My dearest apologies for being unnecessarily circumlocutory and providing maundering anecdotal articulation in my retort to your query.

I see what you are getting at.

And for DI to become a left-leaning equivalent of ATS it needs a 9 to 1 liberal advantage with an "in-crowd" that fosters an environment hostile to the opposite opinions.

It would need to be wall to wall Axios, Huff Post, Slate, and New Yorker parrots in an environment that considers everything else propaganda to treat with disdain.

And its tone would need to be favorable to only opinions that pass The Progressive Pelosi-Cortez Litmus test. And it would need to do this while thinking it holds a fair and balanced opinion that justifies piling on all opinions that clash. Then it would be the inverse "circle jerk"

And so I answer the question and let the thread get back on topic.

I don't like being around only opinions I agree with to the same extent I don't like super majority environments of opinions that bully all others into submission.

To me ATS became a very far right environment that liked to bully difference of opinion and congratulate itself with mutual admiration for being of the awakened cogniscenti. It gets old. Don't want that to happen here. No overwhelming supermajorities!