HPV Vaccination Advice Please

[KTemplar]

When my son was at the recommended age I was nervous about the hpv vaccine after watching some tv show on 2 people who had devastating effects from it.

I researched it every chance I could; that was over 10 years ago so I couldn’t tell you my sources; but ultimately I decided it was the wise thing to do as it can help prevent certain cancers later in life for them. My son was fine, no side effects.

Don’t stress about the covid vaccines, I have family members who took every one available and they are fine.

I got the Johnson & Johnson, which was the one I preferred due to having a rare blood type. I got the bad batch. When I found out I showed up to work at a drug store no less, wanting answers from my boss. They advised me I would have suffered side effects right after the vaccination and by that time about 9 months had passed, so I was in the clear.

[chivo]

Disgusting to see that after all the vax freak show which just happened...there's still people on this boards who are suggesting/encouraging to keep injecting useless, toxic substances.
I'm all for natural selection though. Ignorance shouldn't be for free!!
As for the OP. If you really regret taking 3 shot of covax and you don't trust the industry/government/propaganda matrix because of the freakshow mentioned above... Then the question of getting another useless shot brought you by --- it's a bit of a an easy one no?

[FlyersFan]

I don't know anyone who has died of 'turbo cancer' nor have I been acquainted personally with anyone who has actually had a serious adverse effect from ANY immunization.

I dunno.   My husband who was perfectly healthy his whole life got the shots and then 2 years later he comes down with bladder cancer and parkinsons, diagnosed with them only 4 weeks apart.   I wonder if it was the shots.  He never had anything more than a headcold before that, and even the headcolds were mild.

[tellmethesecrets]

I dunno.   My husband who was perfectly healthy his whole life got the shots and then 2 years later he comes down with bladder cancer and parkinsons, diagnosed with them only 4 weeks apart.   I wonder if it was the shots.  He never had anything more than a headcold before that, and even the headcolds were mild.

I'm so sorry to hear that, how awful!

This is similar to the things I've heard happen to people I know and friends of friends etc. It seems to be happening too regularly for it to be a coincidence.

Sending love x

[Ray1990]

HPV VAX .... when our daughter was a tween/teen, that shot had just come out.
We opted OUT of giving it to her.
We thought it unnecessary.
If you don't screw around, and you don't marry someone who has been screwing around, then the shot isn't necessary, in our opinion.
When our daughter graduated college and went off on her own, she got the shot on her own.
I guess she didn't trust her husbands sex life before marriage.

It can be spread by kissing though and it's passed from mother to infant too.

I'd expect kids to fool around a bit and considering like 80-90% of people will get it eventually I'd assume transmission is definitely not just via sex. If everyone is shagging each other that much HPV could easily be replaced by HIV or any other STI.

OP? Weigh up the risks and know your own body, HPV is a lot worse in later life or for people with a compromised immunity which also tends to be most of us as we age. Any infection you can't shake can prove deadly. I never got the COVID vaccines but I do look back and wonder if all the weird symptoms I've had since would've been lessened if I did, I guess I'll never know. If I listened to the stuff being spouted off at ATS I'd have had to convince myself I was jabbed and I'm about to die soon because those issues are from the evil jabs.

[chr0naut]

I dunno.   My husband who was perfectly healthy his whole life got the shots and then 2 years later he comes down with bladder cancer and parkinsons, diagnosed with them only 4 weeks apart.   I wonder if it was the shots.  He never had anything more than a headcold before that, and even the headcolds were mild.

My usually healthy 26 year old son died of cancer, and my grandmother died of cancer, but both were years before COVID. Regrettably, such things happen. People weren't immortal before the 'shots'.

Cancer rates dropped significantly during 2020 due to disruption to screening and diagnosis and are, apparently, still in the process of slowly returning to pre-COVID levels. As of 2023, cancer rates were 0.5% lower than they were in 2017 to 2019.

There has been no increase in cancer incidence rates from pre-COVID levels!

There was an increase in cancer incidence rates from those during peak of the pandemic, in 2020, because at the peak of the pandemic, they just weren't doing the diagnostic work like they previously did. The online BS'ers took that little ripple in the statistical data and amplified it into doom-porn.

Here's three credible links that explain the situation:

Cancer case trends following the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic: A community-based observational study with extended follow-up

Still No Evidence COVID-19 Vaccination Increases Cancer Risk, Despite Posts

Impact of COVID on the April 2024 SEER Data Release

Since the start of the pandemic, there are significant ongoing online misinformation campaigns which are politically linked, specifically with right-wing US activism (take a look at the history of guy who is the nominee political overseer of Health & Human Services in the US, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. - is that a clear enough example?).

Don't fall for the BS and don't let your health and the health of those around you suffer because of it. Go to credible national statistical sources and do the research. Don't take the word of someone else, even if they are 'internet' famous.

[Byrd]

Not off topic at all, ask away! No real side effects yet I don't think? I noticed a drastic decline in my collagen in my face but that could coincide with age? (Turning 39 this year)

Mostly I am petrified of dropping dead with heart issues or turbo cancer - I'm seeing a lot of it around since COVID, again it could be coincidence but it all makes me very uneasy!!!

Even more concerning that it alters DNA and there's nothing i can do about it!

I don't know if you'll trust my background, but, I think you've been reading the wrong sources.

Instead of looking at anecdotes, look at data.  
Raw data from Canada (well, other countries, too) says that with your shot and two boosters, you are LEAST likely to die (I'm roughly twice your age and I've had the shots plus five boosters because I'm a Really High Risk patient. I haven't had Covid... ever) : https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257...on-status/

And I'm old enough to be your grandma (if your family had kids early)

Cancer isn't a single disease.  It's a blanket term (like "American" for a huge group of diseases that are characterized by cells growing out of control.  This is why you can't "cure" cancer.  Leukemia, yes.  Breast cancer, yes.  Many other types of cancers, yes.  But not all of them and what works on one (surgery for breast cancer) doesn't work on others (leukemia.)

As ANY population gets older (and doesn't die of other things) cancers increase because our SUN is constantly bombarding us with particles and they do hit our cells and sometimes cause a mutation.  That's life.

Cancer deaths have been declining (there was a huge drop during Covid simply because so many people died) https://usafacts.org/articles/how-have-c...over-time/

There's no such thing as "turbo cancer."

If your doctor recommends it, I suggest you follow their advice.  In general, people get this before they're teenagers (I'm pretty sure you're not 9 years old) and it prevents cervical cancer and other cancers.  As an adult, you may not need it unless you have certain risks.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond...t-20047292


And finally, things change your DNA all the time.  Sunshine.  Pollution (including air pollution).  Diet.  Water.  Alcohol. Aging (those short teleomeres.)  But homo sapiens is an incredibly TOUGH organism and we outlive almost all other species on the planet (there's exceptions... tortoises, the occasional shark, some trees.)  

And STRESS (worrying) will both impact your DNA and shorten your life far more than 10 drops (approximate volume of one shot) of material injected into you. 


Are there risks?  Yes, you might feel awful for one or two days.  If you read the stories of people who died of cancer or lived but had multiple surgeries, you might feel differently about a day or two of feeling awful.

[Iwant2believe323]

So I think Megyn Kelly had a show on the HPV vaccine last year. I don’t remember exactly what she covered but she went through the serious side effects. And Candace Owens had a seizure from it. I don’t know if she goes into detail about it but I’d search for her story. She mentioned it in her show last week. I knew she was vax injured but I didn’t know from which vac till last week.

[Iwant2believe323]

So I think Megyn Kelly had a show on the HPV vaccine last year. I don’t remember exactly what she covered but she went through the serious side effects. And Candace Ownes had a seizure from it. I don’t know if she goes into detail about it but I’d search for her story. She mentioned it in her show last week. I knew she was vax injured but I didn’t know from which vax it was.

Edit: Found it on X
https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/189095...61458?s=46

[chivo]

So I think Megyn Kelly had a show on the HPV vaccine last year. I don’t remember exactly what she covered but she went through the serious side effects. And Candace Ownes had a seizure from it. I don’t know if she goes into detail about it but I’d search for her story. She mentioned it in her show last week. I knew she was vax injured but I didn’t know from which vax it was.

Edit: Found it on X
https://x.com/realcandaceo/status/189095...61458?s=46

Naah, this is anecdotal. It doesn't count!! Even if they are very public people and there's no reason to disbelief their claims of grief and suffering. Still anecdotes!! Even if there are hundreds of thousands of them!!
The only data that matters and must be trusted is the data brought you by the health ministry, they made the authorized testing of all of them drugs so they are safe and effective!! And we know they are really motivated to do a fair non biased scientific testing because the pharmaceutical corporate is very willing to invest their own private money to make sure everything is objective and clear, they even bring the most well educated professionals to give validity to the research. You must bend to some sort of authority!! There are so many smart people in this world of ours...
I know these things are true because some random internet guys who are able to write appealing word salads said so, right here on DI and on ATS!! So... There's is that... Ok?? And also they are not from America where everyone is so rude and unpolite, they are from more civilized cultures like the UK and New Zealand!!

Sorry about the rant but it makes me feel unsafe and insecure when internet strangers question my very flimsy beliefs