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(01-22-2026, 09:10 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: That’s why Trump is pushing for new sources of rare earth minerals so the west isn’t dependent on the CCP.  Which is a good thing.  Right.

Again, the US already has access to rare earth minerals. 

The main dependency is processing, not mining.

Where China dominates refining them.

Not because of resource scarcity.

But due to decades of lower costs.

And pretty much no environmental rules.
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(01-22-2026, 09:10 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: That’s why Trump is pushing for new sources of rare earth minerals so the west isn’t dependent on the CCP.  Which is a good thing.  Right.

Is threatening to invade another nation to take their resources a good thing? That's what Russia is doing right now, do you think that's a good thing? That's what Israel is doing in Gaza, do you think that's a good thing? 

Your President hasn't a clue how to Make America Great Again without having to steal it from other countries. Your country has plenty of rare earth minerals but the only thing standing in the way of enriching yourselves with your own resources is your President.
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(01-22-2026, 09:09 AM)andy06shake Wrote: The problem with laser-based defense is the atmosphere.

And turbulent Arctic weather would severely limit reliability.

Greenland is certainly not the best choice to field such weaponry.


Ok.  Where improvements are being made to make them more effective.  Good for US and NATO defense.  Right.  Or do you want the west to roll over for China and Putin.  Where you bitch Putin will nuke us all.

From new sources of energy, rare earth minerals, to advancements in defensive air systems to keep China and Russia in check.  Right.  It would be different if they wanted to trade on good faith.  But Russia and the CCP are out to weaponize trade. People complain that health care companies are “evil”.  And yet turn a blind eye that the CCP wants to take that exponentially to the next magnitude and turn it into a state weapon.
(01-22-2026, 09:17 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: Ok.  Where improvements are being made to make them more effective.  Good for US and NATO defense.  Right.  Or do you want the west to roll over for China and Putin.  Where you bitch Putin will nuke us all.

From new sources of energy, rare earth minerals, to advancements in defensive air systems to keep China and Russia in check.  Right.  It would be different if they wanted to trade on good faith.  But Russia and the CCP are out to weaponize trade. People complain that health care companies are “evil”.  And yet turn a blind eye that the CCP wants to take that exponentially to the next magnitude and turn it into a state weapon.
 
You can support US and NATO defense improvements without assuming the only alternative is "rolling over" for China or Russia.
 
And criticising corporate behavior or government policy doesn't mean supporting authoritarian states.

It's possible to want a strong defense, fair trade, and accountability at the same time.
Quote:Where you bitch Putin will nuke us all.

I don't really think that's likely unless we invade Russia, so...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
(01-22-2026, 09:15 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Is threatening to


You don’t understand the CCP and their belt and road trap is quite frightening..

The Trillion Dollar Trap: Why Countries Are Backing Out of China’s Belt and Road




You not understanding CCP aggression through trade and the need to become less dependent on China is questionable. Is your allegiance really to democracy.  Or this weird authoritarian corporation the CCP has become?  Not perfect, but the west is lots better at democracy and free and open trade.
(01-22-2026, 09:24 AM)WallFlowerActive Wrote: You don’t understand the CCP and their belt and road trap is quite frightening..

The Trillion Dollar Trap: Why Countries Are Backing Out of China’s Belt and Road

[Video: https://youtu.be/gHfE8Ve4avA]

You not understanding CCP aggression through trade and the need to become less dependent on China is questionable. Is your allegiance really to democracy.  Or this weird authoritarian corporation the CCP has become?  Not perfect, but the west is lots better at democracy and free and open trade.

You don't see your government can't or won't do what is necessary to keep pace with China by creating industry to actually do what was promised, to be reliant on yourselves. If I had to choose which country is doing capitalism the best, I'd have to say China right now.
"The only journey is the one within."
(01-22-2026, 09:23 AM)andy06shake Wrote:  

 
And criticising corporate behavior or government policy doesn't mean supporting authoritarian states.


The US still has elections every two years.  Everything from city to federal positions.  The presidential election every four years.

When’s the last time Russia or China has had a fair and honest election.

Where Europe continued to buy energy off Putin when it was convenient even when the writing was on the wall.

Look at you, because of TDS you can’t accept that it’s better for the west to develop new sources of rare earth minerals so the west isn’t dependent on the authoritarian CCP that is weaponizing trade.
(01-22-2026, 09:29 AM)quintessentone Wrote: You don't see your government can't or won't do what is necessary to keep pace with China


China doesn’t want peace.  The CCP wants the world to bow down to their authority and control.

I think you just showed your hand.
(01-22-2026, 09:04 AM)quintessentone Wrote: The other member and I are discussing offshoots to this topic, which may or may not be deemed off topic by moderators, you obviously haven't a clue what is going on here.

China's economy will soon become #1 if your government continues to do what they are doing. The real enemy of the U.S. is within, that being, within the top levels of government and the oligarchs.

You don't have clue either. Remember when you claimed that oil money was never going to make it to Venezuela and you shut your yapper for a couple hours to let in that reality sink in that you were wrong?
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“The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.”
― William T. Sherman