Greenland USA

[LightAngel]

  Of course there is.   

Nope, not now!

[Thetruth]

 That's funny.   Of course there is.   
It is in a strategic position, full of rare earth minerals, and there is no one there to defend it. 
Couple that with the expansionist ideals of China and Russia.

Again you don't seem to understand how artic warfare works.

First of all  its not about numbers.  What Denmark and now the rest of Europe have there is enough.
dumping large armies on artic terrain goes badly, very badly as USSR found out.  You need the logistics to support them.

To supply an invasion force you would need a blue water navy.  Russian Navy is a joke, the Chinese Navy doesn't have projection capabilities in the Atlantic.

[David64]

Nope, not now!

I don't want your country. I want us to be an exclusive customer and have a contract that demands Greenlanders share in the profits, like Alaskans have here. It would bring jobs for the people and give us what we need without all the political BS.
 

Alaskans share in oil profits primarily through the Alaska Permanent Fund Dividend (PFD), an annual payment from state oil revenue and investments, and via the state's sovereign wealth fund, which supports the state budget, services, and future generations, with the state government receiving significant revenue from oil royalties, taxes, and leases, some of which goes to local communities and the Permanent Fund. The specific amount of the PFD varies yearly based on fund performance, with recent payouts around $1,000-$1,300 per person, and the state's share of oil revenue has seen recent pushes for increases, as noted by this Alaska Beacon article. 

[fwki]

I live in a nice home in a gentrified neighborhood, property values rise every year, and owners are renovating, rebuilding and life is good, for now. But I have problem. The house next door has absentee owners who don’t do a damn thing to maintain the property or contribute to the community. It hasn’t rented in years, and they’re delinquent on taxes.I have to repair the fence, trim the dangerous trees, cut the grass just to minimize the hit on my property value. It was a drug drop for a while, and I began to fear for my family if it became a full fledged crack house.I tried to buy the house from the out-of-state siblings that claim title, but now they’ve all moved on, and I get no traction on a deal. They know the value keeps rising, and that I have to maintain it for them.I’ve reported the delinquency and the code violations, but our Democrat run sanctuary city seems more concerned with housing illegals than protecting tax payers. If the city gets the house, I’ll probably have a Somalian day care center next door.I am at my wits end, and there’s one course of action left to me: I am going to take adverse possession of the property. I am moving in a family member and going fix the place up nice and pay the taxes. In five years, I’ll take title under squatters rights and be done for good with these lazy, broke, sponging neighbors.What do y’all think? Should I do it?

[andy06shake]

I live in a nice home in a gentrified neighborhood, property values rise every year, and owners are renovating, rebuilding and life is good, for now. But I have problem. The house next door has absentee owners who don’t do a damn thing to maintain the property or contribute to the community. It hasn’t rented in years, and they’re delinquent on taxes.I have to repair the fence, trim the dangerous trees, cut the grass just to minimize the hit on my property value. It was a drug drop for a while, and I began to fear for my family if it became a full fledged crack house.I tried to buy the house from the out-of-state siblings that claim title, but now they’ve all moved on, and I get no traction on a deal. They know the value keeps rising, and that I have to maintain it for them.I’ve reported the delinquency and the code violations, but our Democrat run sanctuary city seems more concerned with housing illegals than protecting tax payers. If the city gets the house, I’ll probably have a Somalian day care center next door.I am at my wits end, and there’s one course of action left to me: I am going to take adverse possession of the property. I am moving in a family member and going fix the place up nice and pay the taxes. In five years, I’ll take title under squatters rights and be done for good with these lazy, broke, sponging neighbors.What do y’all think? Should I do it?

I think the "Adverse possession laws" exist to resolve abandoned land disputes.

Not to reward neighbors who strategically occupy property they failed to buy.

A judge might see it as a bad-faith land grab.
 
It might sound like a good idea.

But it's possibly illegal and on ethically shaky ground.

[fwki]

I think the "Adverse possession laws" exist to resolve abandoned land disputes.

Not to reward neighbors who strategically occupy property they failed to buy.

A judge might see it as a bad-faith land grab.
 
It might sound like a good idea.

But it's possibly illegal and on ethically shaky ground.

I've run the legal traps and have a strong case. Ethically though.... Is it ethical to protect your family first?

[putnam6]

I don't want your country. I want us to be an exclusive customer and have a contract that demands Greenlanders share in the profits, like Alaskans have here. It would bring jobs for the people and give us what we need without all the political BS.
 

A business partnership with America... Greenlanders profit and get an American security blanket, or let Denmark sell you piecemeal to China, where only the connected profit for now, till TSHTF, and you will be dealt with like the Uyghurs

[andy06shake]

I've run the legal traps and have a strong case. Ethically though.... Is it ethical to protect your family first?

Nothing wrong with wanting to protect your family that's a noble endeavor.

But what you propose is ethically wrong because it's a deliberate attempt to take someone else's property through deception fwki.

Have you run the proposal by an actual qualified legal professional?

That might be the best idea.

[fwki]

The casual legal advice is solid, and I will hire a land attorney once I take the decision. I know 2 wrongs etc. but these absentee owners are the ones acting unethically, so that gives me some conscientious comfort. And in good conscience I cannot let this continue until something bad happens to my family to clear my conscience completely. Plus it's a burden to care for this delinquent property.

[andy06shake]

The casual legal advice is solid, and I will hire a land attorney once I take the decision. I know 2 wrongs etc. but these absentee owners are the ones acting unethically, so that gives me some conscientious comfort. And in good conscience I cannot let this continue until something bad happens to my family to clear my conscience completely. Plus it's a burden to care for this delinquent property.

The problem is it could backfire, and probably will. 

The owners will sue for eviction.

And whoever you get to move in could end up with a criminal trespass charge.

Also any improvements you make to the property could end up legally belonging to the true owners.

It seems pointless to spend money fixing up a house you don't legally own.

When you could lose everything overnight.

I would definitely run this past a "land attorney" before you make the decision or any commitments. 

Anyhoo i suppose we'd better return to the topic of the thread, best of luck all the same.