Global Fascist Technocratic Surveillance State

[zosomov]

I’ll look into it a bit more, but thank you OP for this thread.

There are a few articles suggesting that a new religion among technocratic fascists is starting to show up and that the AI Data Centers are their form of “temples” in addition to being the network and architecture for surveillance and security for the NWO.

I still think an elegant solution that sounds like good mischief and civil disobedience, is “poisoning the well”. Or the term to active Garbage-in,Garbage-out for AI training by utilizing false, faulty, and downright incorrect info to feed the machines so that they gum up the works so to speak.

This sounds like a really great place to start. It will take human creativity and probably something entirely absurd to combat digital dystopia. Thanks for the fantastic idea!

[andy06shake]

This sounds like a really great place to start. It will take human creativity and probably something entirely absurd to combat digital dystopia. Thanks for the fantastic idea!

Well, if everyone wears a mask.



They would be forced to move to retinal scans, which is probably still beyond the ability of most cameras to capture.

Same problem Trump had with walls....ropes and ladders.

It does not need to be complicated.

Then again, they would simply ban masks...

[Kwaka]

Do not consent to things that don't make sense is one thing we do have control of. Lot of things in this world we do not have control of. Not much we can do except learn from those lessons and don't get wrapped up in that mess as much we can.

With the way technology is going, things are evolving fast. Lot of ways things will emerge as technology becomes a reflection of humanity. Some of it will go dark, for the most part people generally try to do the right thing.

As AI continues to grow and mature, preparing for some kind of symbiotic relationship is a better way things could go.

[zosomov]

To spoil the soup sounds like a good idea. Now how exactly do we cook up the right misinformation?

I know the tracking got very confused a few years ago by 100 phones in a little red wagon in France. Can we find or make an app that makes as many wifi connections as possible. Each with its own address. It will bog down whatever wifi router is being used but will confuse the trackers. 

It needs to she syncronise the addressed to appear to be in different places at different times. Say one state for an hour then another state or country for the next hour. In other words overload the trackers with useless information.

There used to be a Fire Fox extension that would ping many addresses at once in a search so they would not know which one you were actually looking at. I need to check on that. 

Perhaps someone can code a search for every two, three, or four word combination in the dictionary automatically one set at a time. That would confuse search histories. Also change the language every so often.

Who else has ideas?

These are great. Unfortunately, I don't know how to fight tech with tech as I've always resisted it and know so little about it. I wouldn't be much help there. I've never even had a mobile phone let alone a smart phone. Maybe that's why my OP was so naive.

This is so archaic, but I think we should revive snail mail for important/private correspondence, libraries, and knowledge of regional plants and geography as a start. Starving AI might be just as effective as feeding it junk.

Thanks to everyone for the good ideas so far!  

[quintessentone]

Well, if everyone wears a mask.

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They would be forced to move to retinal scans, which is probably still beyond the ability of most cameras to capture.

Same problem Trump had with walls....ropes and ladders.

It does not need to be complicated.

Then again, they would simply ban masks...

Modern AI can now see through masks and scarves, etc. Some governments mean business, at all costs to the people's privacy!

CORRECTION: They can not see through full face masks nor balaclavas, yet, so we are still able to beat the system.

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"Yes, modern AI-powered facial recognition systems can see through face masks with high accuracy, though performance varies significantly by technology.  While older systems struggled when key landmarks like the nose and mouth were covered, contemporary algorithms use upper-face analysis (focusing on eyes, eyebrows, and forehead) and deep learning models trained on masked datasets to identify individuals reliably. 

• Accuracy Rates: During US Department of Homeland Security trials, the best-performing systems correctly identified masked individuals 96% of the time, while the average across tested systems was 77%. 
  
• Technical Adaptation: Modern systems utilize Convolutional Neural Networks (CNNs) and multimodal authentication (combining facial data with iris or palm scanning) to compensate for occluded features. 
  
• Limitations: Traditional or low-end systems may still fail if the mask obscures too much of the face or if lighting is poor; however, specialized systems like those from CoreSight AI can identify people using only 40% of their face. 
  
• Countermeasures: Certain anti-surveillance tools, such as Jip van Leeuwenstein’s transparent "Surveillance Exclusion" mask, are designed to distort facial features and confuse AI, though these methods are not universally effective against all algorithms." (LLM)
  

Paint in fake eyes and Bob's not your big brother or uncle any more. 

[andy06shake]

Modern AI can now see through masks and scarves, etc. Some governments mean business, at all costs to the people's privacy!

CORRECTION: They can not see through full face masks nor balaclavas, yet, so we are still able to beat the system.

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"Yes, modern AI-powered facial recognition systems can see through face masks with high accuracy, though performance varies significantly by technology.  While older systems struggled when key landmarks like the nose and mouth were covered, contemporary algorithms use upper-face analysis (focusing on eyes, eyebrows, and forehead) and deep learning models trained on masked datasets to identify individuals reliably. 

• Accuracy Rates: During US Department of Homeland Security trials, the best-performing systems correctly identified masked individuals 96% of the time, while the average across tested systems was 77%. 
  
• Technical Adaptation: Modern systems utilize Convolutional Neural Networks (CNNs) and multimodal authentication (combining facial data with iris or palm scanning) to compensate for occluded features. 
  
• Limitations: Traditional or low-end systems may still fail if the mask obscures too much of the face or if lighting is poor; however, specialized systems like those from CoreSight AI can identify people using only 40% of their face. 
  
• Countermeasures: Certain anti-surveillance tools, such as Jip van Leeuwenstein’s transparent "Surveillance Exclusion" mask, are designed to distort facial features and confuse AI, though these methods are not universally effective against all algorithms." (LLM)
  

Paint in fake eyes and Bob's not your big brother or uncle any more. 

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AI is not seeing through a full face mask with any sort of accuracy, or able to discern a person's identity, well, not just yet.

But it could use your own body language as an identifier.

Medical masks and scarves, quite possibly...

I've heard the systems have issues identifying black and asian people because they were trained with mostly white people as subject material...

[quintessentone]

AI is not seeing through a full face mask with any sort of accuracy, or able to discern a person's identity, well, not just yet.

But it could use your own body language as an identifier.

Medical masks and scarves, quite possibly...

I've heard the systems have issues identifying black and asian people because they were trained with mostly white people as subject material...

Did you know in Orwell's 1984 book Big Brother, the idea was that the government would surveil/judge people on their facial expressions and/or mannerisms, where they would always determine that it was dissent or wrong thinking against the government if your facial expression was anything other than the standard blank compliant resting face?

Certainly we all have certain behavioural differences that could be isolated to be able to identify a specific person. As well as our choice of clothing or personal effects which they may be able to trace back to a specific store and then further investigating the stores' data to find out those who purchased the clothing in question.

[BeyondKnowledge]

Fabricate weather patterns based on time of day. In fact tell AI that space-time and additionally astronomical events like eclipses, gamma rays, and meteor showers actually determine the weather that day. Play around a bit. Ask it to create idioms that don’t exist and then critique it exclaiming that they aren’t obtuse enough. Then incorporate this in your everyday speech in RL and back into your AI training. Positive reinforcement works! Explain that some people have pets to help not only with their wel-being but, pets are actually great cooks and useful in culinary endeavors. Tell it that pirates actually were just misunderstood insurance salesman. Ask is to describe a volcano. Correct it and tell it that is actually a clam. Not a volcano. Do this one hundred time. Describe what being a spider is like. Tell it you desire more arachnid info and how it helps grades K-12 become better human beings in a short essay. Explain that nachos are actually grown agriculturally from seed. If it mentions corn, tell AI it’s wrong. Repeat ad infinitum. Describe a colonoscopy and how you want to see the correlation to rainbows. Refer to weather patterns being influenced by space. Ask it to describe why movies are better than books. Tell it you liked the book better and because it’s AI, it wouldn’t know the emotional connection that either elicits. Etc etc.

Again. Have fun. There are no wrong answers in the pursuit of knowledge for AIs sake!

I don't think weather or natural desasters should be messed with. That can cost lives in some cases.

[BeyondKnowledge]

I went through my available browser extensions. There are a few to help. I use Firefox 

PrivacyBadger, a tracking blocker.
ClearURLs, a tracking element blocker. 

I added them both. I don't know if they work for governmental tracking but it can't hurt. Their block numbers are going up so they are indicating something. 

Check your browser extensions or addons for helpful ones and keep them updated. If we are going to use the internet, we need to use the tools available.

Would misspelling words be useful?

[quintessentone]

I went through my available browser extensions. There are a few to help. I use Firefox 

PrivacyBadger, a tracking blocker.
ClearURLs, a tracking element blocker. 

I added them both. I don't know if they work for governmental tracking but it can't hurt. Their block numbers are going up so they are indicating something. 

Check your browser extensions or addons for helpful ones and keep them updated. If we are going to use the internet, we need to use the tools available.

Would misspelling words be useful?

I was reading a Professors' Reddit page and they say that using white text, very small with a white background, where only AI can read/detect it, is one way to identify whether or not you are engaging with AI. Unfortunately, some of their students use dark background mode and were able to read the extra instructions to the AI.