Ghislaine Maxwell says Epstein client list does not exist

[Unknownparadox]

They call cases, documents, files, investigations, etc. "Sealed" for a reason. 

Don't be naïve and believe everything is straight single forward and "logical". 

Look this up: about how plea bargains and even convictions can be sealed.  [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmi...gjoint.gif]

Where do get this naive from? I am not naive, accepting this secrecy bullshit is is naive.

Best I recall Maxwell had a non prosecutorial agreement. They did it to Cosby too. So we know the government doesn't keep it's word. Not that I like those people. But if you can't trust the government, who can you trust?

[andy06shake]

Let me get this straight.   Throughout the entirety of the Biden administration, all these whatever-they-are files, notes, interviews, flight logs, decades of investigation of Epstein were known.   Do you really think that if there was anything even slightly incriminating toward Trump that Biden wouldn't have released it?   After all the things pointed and thrown at Trump, the previous administration, decided to just sit on it?  Alleged information that could crush a Presidential campaign.   Doesn't seem in any way logical to me. 

Do I think Trump is innocent?   Do I think Biden is innocent?   I don't know, but I do know both men are protected by the 5th, 6th and 14th Amendments and guaranteed due process.   While the presumption of innocence isn't codified in the Constitution, it is accepted in the Judicial process.

I really dont know who's innocent or guilty for sure, but it's pretty clear Trump does not wish all of the information to come out, hence the redactions for a start.

These are not just about covering up victim names.

Trump and Biden are entitled to due process, but that doesn't mean the public can't question their actions when credible allegations materialise.

As far as im aware, the presumption of innocence is a trial principle, not a blanket shield against scrutiny.

Trump promised to make the Epstein files public and then backtracked as soon as he was told he was in there argentus.

It went from the list is lying on my desk................to there is no list. 

And the amount of bulls@it that must have transpired to move Giselle Maxwell to the minimum security facility she currently resides in is also rather telling imho. 

Plenty of smoke, as to the fire, well, that remains to be seen.

[cherokeetroy]

I saw this video last night of Ryan Garcia, D, CA, saying the DOJ has released a 33000 pages of redacted documents to Congress for review.

What do you guys think the odds are we get any revelations from that release?  I assume it won’t be too much longer before these redacted documents are released to the public?  I can’t imagine having the time to review 33000 pages.

[Video: https://youtu.be/hA_zU_fVO0c?si=YDxR9nmpnB25a_qD]

Neither side can be trusted

They've all lied

With each new lie, they incriminate themselves 

We may never find out detailed crimes related to Epstein but what they are all guilty of is hiding information 

Credibility is shot

[MonkMode]

I think it's a bunch of lies on both parts. The interviewer lies at 3:33. Claiming Maxwell was held in a high security prison. She was held in a low security prison. The new prison is probably even less security. But that doesn't excuse the lie.

Who ever he is interviewing, claims there is a bunch of victims. The problem is, anyone can claim to be a victim. There is a lot of money involved. And we know people lie when it comes to money. Only 4 people actually testified against her. One of which couldn't claim rape, because the legal age of rape is 17 in Britain.

The interviewer is utterly a shill, no doubt IMO.

And the interviewee is a politician whose livelihood depends on being able to milk the taxpayer slush fund.

That said, I’m still not totally without hope, that these 33000 pages of redacted documents (maybe more to come) may get released to the public, and independent unbiased investigators with enough free time can comb through them…

[Unknownparadox]

The interviewer is utterly a shill, no doubt IMO.

And the interviewee is a politician whose livelihood depends on being able to milk the taxpayer slush fund.

That said, I’m still not totally without hope, that these 33000 pages of redacted documents (maybe more to come) may get released to the public, and independent unbiased investigators with enough free time can comb through them…

I hope they come to light too. But I wouldn't bank on anything worth while in them. We will probably get a bunch of black pages with a few white lines here and there.

In the interest of protecting the criminals, Erm uh victims, yeah yeah victims.

[cherokeetroy]

I really dont know who's innocent or guilty for sure, but it's pretty clear Trump does not wish all of the information to come out, hence the redactions for a start.

These are not just about covering up victim names.

Trump and Biden are entitled to due process, but that doesn't mean the public can't question their actions when credible allegations materialise.

As far as im aware, the presumption of innocence is a trial principle, not a blanket shield against scrutiny.

Trump promised to make the Epstein files public and then backtracked as soon as he was told he was in there argentus.

It went from the list is lying on my desk................to there is no list. 

And the amount of bulls@it that must have transpired to move Giselle Maxwell to the minimum security facility she currently resides in is also rather telling imho. 

Plenty of smoke, as to the fire, well, that remains to be seen.

The argument we repeatedly hear is if there was any evidence incriminating Trump, then Biden would have used it

The Epstein debacle crossed party lines. Trump isn't the only politician associated with Epstein. Clinton associated with him, too

So what if Biden exposed incriminating evidence against Trump

And that would lead to exposure about Clinton

And that would lead to exposure about someone else

And so on and so on and so on

The Trumps and Clintons were friends before politics 

How do we know theres not a pact that keeps them all insulated

They pretend to be enemies but has anyone on either side been arrested?

The left threw everything they had at Trump. Allegedly 

Yet, he's the sitting President 

It's political theater

[MonkMode]

I hope they come to light too. But I wouldn't bank on anything worth while in them. We will probably get a bunch of black pages with a few white lines here and there.

In the interest of protecting the criminals, Erm uh victims, yeah yeah victims.

Even if all the names are redacted, victims and perps, but the operation is made clear, that would be a win IMO.

[DontTreadOnMe]

I have a small announcement.
As a member, not as staff.

Please note:
We will never get all the info released about
9/11
JFK
RFK
UFOs
Epstein
Hoffa




Thanks for reading.

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[UltraBudgie]

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The origin of the Speedo.

[MonkMode]

Apparently 33000 pages released is less than 1% of
the info they have according to Ro Khanna.