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(05-19-2026, 03:47 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: Doesn't look like it to me really seems like you wanna talk about immigration and Anne ain't having it 
I do not want to talk about immigration as we all have done that ad nauseum. I was hoping that facts would stop the circle jerk arguing between two other members.
ANNEE sees what's going on.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(05-19-2026, 03:57 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I do not want to talk about immigration as we all have done that ad nauseum. I was hoping that facts would stop the circle jerk arguing between two other members.
ANNEE sees what's going on.
Anne apparently does not see because she claims Im taking the topic away instead of you, despite what you were trying to do and admitting that you did exactly what Anne claimed im doing.
The circle jerk will never stop except in our brief interlude right here right now with our own private jerk as they read our silly nonsense, say hi and wave.
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(05-19-2026, 03:57 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I do not want to talk about immigration as we all have done that ad nauseum. I was hoping that facts would stop the circle jerk arguing between two other members.
ANNEE sees what's going on.
20 years on the boards.
Wish I had a nickel for every time I was admonished for - going off topic - diverting - not posting facts - disrupting - and more.
I’m preconditioned
I support there is realistic reasons for some Gerrymandering — culture based.
But it’s become a political tool on all sides for votes.
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(05-19-2026, 06:30 AM)Harte Wrote: Semantic argument:
"ThE Dhs dIdN'T eXiSt ThEn."
The 'United States Department of Homeland Security' (DHS) was created in response to the 11 September 2001 attacks (Unlike the CIA and the FBI, it had authority to operate both inside and outside of US borders for the protection of the US against border spanning threats). It was initiated by the Homeland Security Act of 2002
With the creation of the DHS, the old 'Immigration and Naturalization Service' department (INS) was disbanded and a new 'United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement' (ICE) department was created under the authority of DHS.
Quote:I can cover everything else with this question for you.
In what way does the Constitution define "due process?"
Harte
'Due process' - Cornell Law School
Due Process Clause - Wikipedia
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(05-19-2026, 05:15 PM)ANNEE Wrote: 20 years on the boards.
Wish I had a nickel for every time I was admonished for - going off topic - diverting - not posting facts - disrupting - and more.
I’m preconditioned 
I support there is realistic reasons for some Gerrymandering — culture based.
But it’s become a political tool on all sides for votes.
You really feel its an issue? I don't vote so I wouldn't know. I do have family that lives in Metairie and new Orleans and surrounding areas though that might but they havent brought it up as an issue either.
Wish we could come up with a better system than voting or electing leaders. Maybe they should fight to the death for the right to represent the people lol Real American Gladiators
Politics is evil I hate it all
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(05-19-2026, 07:03 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Your country changed the laws to be able to deport a wider brush stroke of people to pander to Trump's base.
"Yes, the Trump administration has implemented significant policy changes to expand the pool of deportable immigrants and accelerate removals. By terminating humanitarian parole and Temporary Protected Status (TPS) programs, the administration de-legalized approximately 1.6 million immigrants who had previously been authorized to stay, thereby making them eligible for deportation."
"Key actions taken to increase deportations include:- Revoking Legal Status: The administration ended the CHNV parole program (affecting ~500,000 people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela) and terminated TPS for nationals of countries including Venezuela, Afghanistan, and Cameroon, stripping protections from hundreds of thousands of legal residents.
- Expanding Expedited Removal: The fast-track deportation process was expanded to apply to individuals arrested anywhere in the U.S. who cannot prove they have lived in the country for at least two years, bypassing traditional court hearings.
- Removing Enforcement Barriers: The administration revoked policies that previously barred ICE from arresting migrants at "sensitive locations" like schools, hospitals, and courthouses, allowing for broader interior enforcement.
- Utilizing Emergency Powers: The Alien Enemies Act was invoked to swiftly deport Venezuelans accused of gang membership, although the Supreme Court later blocked further use of this law for such cases.
These measures have significantly increased the number of people considered "undocumented" and subject to removal, with the administration citing the goal of executing the largest mass deportation in U.S. history." (LLM)
See how that works?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025...olicy.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tru...rcna213356
They chose to enforce real laws, not shovel laws under rugs.
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(05-19-2026, 02:44 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I don't see where one has anything to do with the other.
This is about Gerrymandering in the USA.
I have no doubts that a poster who routinely uses fact-based arguments has any difficulty sticking to the country of discussion.
Well actually, immigration is an issue for Gerrymandering because Immigrants both Legal and Illegal ARE counted in The 10 Year Census and ARE part of the populations of Congressional Districts along with all Legal Voters and all people who can't vote, like kids and many Immigrants.
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(05-19-2026, 05:59 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: You really feel its an issue? I don't vote so I wouldn't know. I do have family that lives in Metairie and new Orleans and surrounding areas though that might but they havent brought it up as an issue either.
Wish we could come up with a better system than voting or electing leaders. Maybe they should fight to the death for the right to represent the people lol Real American Gladiators 
Politics is evil I hate it all
IMO — Like Affirmative Action. It started with minorities. Which made sense in the beginning before fought for Equal Opportunity became mostly enacted.
Today Affirmative Action should evolve to be for culturally disadvantaged. Starting with children that come from homes that don’t promote education or personal drive to benefit self.
In other words — functioning programs that have worked need to evolve to fit a changing world.
I was a senior in high school when the Equal Rights Act was passed. It still blows my mind that that happened in my lifetime. So - there are still people alive today that evolved from the suppressive slave culture (not race). They should be encouraged to evolve. Gerrymandering is a program that can help promote a culture where voting was once discouraged and/or illegal.
The way it’s being used currently is wrong.
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(05-19-2026, 05:59 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: You really feel its an issue? I don't vote so I wouldn't know. I do have family that lives in Metairie and new Orleans and surrounding areas though that might but they havent brought it up as an issue either.
Wish we could come up with a better system than voting or electing leaders. Maybe they should fight to the death for the right to represent the people lol Real American Gladiators 
Politics is evil I hate it all
Your founding fathers intended for the people to choose leadership by voting.
As little as your vote means in an EC system, with only two parties with preselected candidates, you still really have a civic duty.
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(05-19-2026, 08:30 PM)chr0naut Wrote: Your founding fathers intended for the people to choose leadership by voting.
As little as your vote means in an EC system, with only two parties with preselected candidates, you still really have a civic duty.
Then I will run as Broccoli for president next election
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