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(05-18-2026, 11:19 PM)IdeomotorPrisoner Wrote: The right is all I care about. That was going with the premise, couldn't help but add my caveats, nor do I feel like trying to defend them...
So.... if it helps get the fucking right back, go ahead and further ban all federal coverage and force alternate funding. The Hyde Amendment sorta prevented federal funds outside rape and incest anyway. Which is why I added that caveat... It was always sorta done that way. I was trying to be sly and make my answer how it was done from 1976 to 2022.
Just no more prosecuting the girl from Mississippi if she goes to Kansas on self pay... Because that is ALSO fucked up.
Im sure in the right restored/no federal funds (IN ANY SITUATION) scenario there'd be a crowd-funded non-profit willing to step up..
If Spirit Airlines could get 335 million in online pledges to save it, for some insane reason, then there's enough Melinda Gates out there to give millions to an abortion safety net, considering the procedure isn't terribly expensive. Less than 20% the hospital list price for a CT scan actually. LIke $680 to $1100 at Planned Parenthood.
Also...
So nothing needs to change then... Just give back the right to go to Planned Parenthood and use alternative private or non-profit charity methods for the inexpensive procedure and doctor's time.
I just want to know do I get the right too as a male? It can't be a human right if it doesn't apply to all humans, right? Are you fighting for my right to abort too, Ideo?
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(05-19-2026, 07:03 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Your country changed the laws to be able to deport a wider brush stroke of people to pander to Trump's base.
"Yes, the Trump administration has implemented significant policy changes to expand the pool of deportable immigrants and accelerate removals. By terminating humanitarian parole and Temporary Protected Status (TPS) programs, the administration de-legalized approximately 1.6 million immigrants who had previously been authorized to stay, thereby making them eligible for deportation."
"Key actions taken to increase deportations include:- Revoking Legal Status: The administration ended the CHNV parole program (affecting ~500,000 people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela) and terminated TPS for nationals of countries including Venezuela, Afghanistan, and Cameroon, stripping protections from hundreds of thousands of legal residents.
- Expanding Expedited Removal: The fast-track deportation process was expanded to apply to individuals arrested anywhere in the U.S. who cannot prove they have lived in the country for at least two years, bypassing traditional court hearings.
- Removing Enforcement Barriers: The administration revoked policies that previously barred ICE from arresting migrants at "sensitive locations" like schools, hospitals, and courthouses, allowing for broader interior enforcement.
- Utilizing Emergency Powers: The Alien Enemies Act was invoked to swiftly deport Venezuelans accused of gang membership, although the Supreme Court later blocked further use of this law for such cases.
These measures have significantly increased the number of people considered "undocumented" and subject to removal, with the administration citing the goal of executing the largest mass deportation in U.S. history." (LLM)
See how that works?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025...olicy.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tru...rcna213356
There's a reason you're on ignore.
Policy is not law.
The law says "may," not "must."
Former administrations have utilized that leeway to allow illegals to remain here.
Now that we've dispensed with your flat-out lie, it's back to ignore for you.
Harte
"A wise man will enjoy the goods of which there is a plentiful supply, and of intellectual rubbish he will find an abundant diet, in our own age as in every other.“ Bertrand Russell
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05-19-2026, 12:48 PM
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(05-19-2026, 12:45 PM)Harte Wrote: There's a reason you're on ignore.
Policy is not law.
The law says "may," not "must."
Former administrations have utilized that leeway to allow illegals to remain here.
Now that we've dispensed with your flat-out lie, it's back to ignore for you.
Harte
Policies and programs changes via executive orders have as much weight as changing any law apparently. Semantics.
Keep me on ignore, please. This is tiresome having to explain facts to those who deny them
Sour grapes since page 1.
"The only journey is the one within."
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(05-19-2026, 12:48 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Policies and programs changes via executive orders have as much weight as changing any law apparently. Semantics.
Keep me on ignore, please. This is tiresome having to explain facts to those who deny them
Sour grapes since page 1.
I would of just said how is it pandering to uphold the law and crushed it like that
Just kidding im not trying to get involved in that merry-go-round
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05-19-2026, 01:34 PM
This post was last modified: 05-19-2026, 01:37 PM by quintessentone. 
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(05-19-2026, 01:34 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Yeah, I should have known better but I was on a merry-go-round roll. 
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I looked, briefly, at your immigration laws to see how similar they were to the US and in my opinion Canada is even more restrictive than the U.S.
Want to talk about it? You only take economically beneficial immigrants for example
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(05-19-2026, 01:39 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: I looked, briefly, at your immigration laws to see how similar they were to the US and in my opinion Canada is even more restrictive than the U.S.
Want to talk about it? You only take economically beneficial immigrants for example
I engaged in this thread to make one point, that being, no amount of redistricting will help GOP because of the 'affordability' crisis and the people realizing they've been lied to and gaslit.
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(05-19-2026, 01:39 PM)ReturnofBroccoli Wrote: I looked, briefly, at your immigration laws to see how similar they were to the US and in my opinion Canada is even more restrictive than the U.S.
Want to talk about it? You only take economically beneficial immigrants for example
I don't see where one has anything to do with the other.
This is about Gerrymandering in the USA.
I have no doubts that a poster who routinely uses fact-based arguments has any difficulty sticking to the country of discussion.
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(05-19-2026, 02:44 PM)ANNEE Wrote: I don't see where one has anything to do with the other.
This is about Gerrymandering in the USA.
I have no doubts that a poster who routinely uses fact-based arguments has any difficulty sticking to the country of discussion.
immigration was brought up, so we turn it into immigration for all i care i dont understand why you are quoting me when Quint brought up the topic, perhaps tell Quint this instead of me seeing as im only replying to their topic in their post that I quoted
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(05-19-2026, 01:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: I engaged in this thread to make one point, that being, no amount of redistricting will help GOP because of the 'affordability' crisis and the people realizing they've been lied to and gaslit.
Your country changed the laws to be able to deport a wider brush stroke of people to pander to Trump's base. (05-19-2026, 01:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: "Yes, the Trump administration has implemented significant policy changes to expand the pool of deportable immigrants and accelerate removals. By terminating humanitarian parole and Temporary Protected Status (TPS) programs, the administration de-legalized approximately 1.6 million immigrants who had previously been authorized to stay, thereby making them eligible for deportation." (05-19-2026, 01:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: "Key actions taken to increase deportations include: (05-19-2026, 01:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Revoking Legal Status: The administration ended the CHNV parole program (affecting ~500,000 people from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela) and terminated TPS for nationals of countries including Venezuela, Afghanistan, and Cameroon, stripping protections from hundreds of thousands of legal residents. (05-19-2026, 01:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Expanding Expedited Removal: The fast-track deportation process was expanded to apply to individuals arrested anywhere in the U.S. who cannot prove they have lived in the country for at least two years, bypassing traditional court hearings. (05-19-2026, 01:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Removing Enforcement Barriers: The administration revoked policies that previously barred ICE from arresting migrants at "sensitive locations" like schools, hospitals, and courthouses, allowing for broader interior enforcement. (05-19-2026, 01:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Utilizing Emergency Powers: The Alien Enemies Act was invoked to swiftly deport Venezuelans accused of gang membership, although the Supreme Court later blocked further use of this law for such cases. (05-19-2026, 01:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: These measures have significantly increased the number of people considered "undocumented" and subject to removal, with the administration citing the goal of executing the largest mass deportation in U.S. history." (LLM) (05-19-2026, 01:49 PM)quintessentone Wrote: See how that works?
Doesn't look like it to me really seems like you wanna talk about immigration and Anne ain't having it
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