Gerrymander based on ideology instead of race

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Ideo you talk about superficial bullshit in America but are championing programs based on the superficial. It doesn't make any sense

Okay, lets go somewhere constructive with it and maybe I can give an argument how one affects the other.

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Im telling you man 100% its education we change that and it domino effects the entire world i swear

Where would you start with education? Just saying education isnt enough. How would you change the mind?

Kids rarely notice race now.
I feel credit is largely do to the Affirmative Action and PC movement turned into broader DEI initiatives from 1992 through 2024 that did it.  I champion them because I feel the results are self-evident. 

All those indoctrinating assemblies I went to had a cumulative effect the same way all other behavior is learned through superficiality.

I credit 90s PC as one of the most successful psyops in history because by Gen Alpha they are all mostly colorblind.  And only millennials and older like me are still bringing up argumentative race demographics.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Okay, lets go somewhere constructive with it and maybe I can give an argument how one effects the other.

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Where would you start with education? Just saying education isnt enough. How would you change the mind?

Kids rarely notice race now.
I feel credit is largely do to the Affirmative action turned broader DEI initiatives from 1992 through 2024.

All those indoctrinating assemblies I went to had a cumulative effect the same way all other behavioral is learned through superficiality.

I credit 90s PC as one of the most successful psyops in history because by Gen Alpha they are all mostly colorblind.  And its only millennials like me still bringing up argumentative of race demographics.

What would you do differently?

I already gave examples on where to start when I brought up literacy come back when you're not as thunk as you drink I am  I didn't just say "education. End transmission"

Kids do notice race because my daughter is constantly throwing a fit about being different races She focuses the crap out of it until my brain explodes. Hold on a minute and I'll edit this with a text from her about it as an example. I asked her if she got a job yet and she said, "Its harder to get a job since im a poc and a woman" *Poc = person of color*

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

So like: 

Destroy all social media that is poisoning everyone, destroy all influence and build good ones. Nurture it.
Show them the way. Give them goals, pride in their achievements. Im talking about all the children of the world. Shape them, it starts with parents investing in their children's lives again instead of giving them phones and tablets. It starts with teachers not giving up on a disruptive class and parents showing them discipline.

Maybe im talking just to talk now, but how do you stop what's already to late to change? Take away their technology and force them to play outside again? 

Even then, how do still stop the trading of cyberbullying for old fashioned playground bullying to a greater effect than the PC stuff did?

[ReturnofBroccoli]

So like: 

Maybe im talking just to talk now, but how do you stop what's already to late to change? Take away their technology and force them to play outside again? 

Even then, how do still stop the trading of cyberbullying for old fashioned playground bullying to a greater effect than the PC stuff did?

Prejudice isnt new its been around since probably the beginning of humankind idk a single group of people that hasn't been enslaved at one time or another through out history. So at what point do you feel that it became too late because it sure as hell looks a lot better than it did back then but perhaps its just not fast enough for you. Its definitely not fast enough for my daughter but she is an emotional trainwreck and a teenager and plays her silly race card all over the stupid ass place lol

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

I already gave examples on where to start when I brought up literacy come back when you're not as thunk as you drink I am  I didn't just say "education. End transmission"

Kids do notice race because my daughter is constantly throwing a fit about being different races She focuses the crap out of it until my brain explodes. Hold on a minute and I'll edit this with a text from her about it as an example. I asked her if she got a job yet and she said, "Its harder to get a job since im a poc and a woman" *Poc = person of color*

Maybe it TRULY IS HARDER for her to get a job? And not just hyperfocus and victimization?

she has the double average pay disparity whammy of being both female (84 cents on the dollar) and then a "poc" reducing her to an average of another 15 to 20 cents more. 

Thats not so much a victim card as a representation of A culture that in many ways favors white males and forces women to adapt to that to get taken seriously. Even in liberal sanctuaries.

Women of color, particularly Black and Indigenous women, face significantly higher hurdles in finding work in America compared to white counterparts, with unemployment rates often double and longer job searches. As of early 2026, Black women’s unemployment was roughly double that of white women 6.3% vs. 3.4\% and they faced higher risks of job loss, marking a persistent systemic gap.

Not like the copout is based on something nonexistent.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Maybe it TRULY IS HARDER fir her to get a job? And not just hyperfocus and victimization?

she has the double averagebpay disparity whammy of being both female (84 cents on the dollar) and then a "poc female" reducing her to an average of another 20 cents on the dollar. 

Do you know whats it truly like im competitive professions anx how much you have to use everything you can to get ahead.

Thats not so much a victim card as a representation of A culture that in many ways favors white males and forces women to adapt to that to get taken seriously. Even in liberal sanctuaries.


Not like the copout is based on something nonexistent.

It was a job at krogers I doubt they were like "oh your not white you not getting in here"

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Okay well *eventually* this will still apply to her in the post education and professional realm if nothing changes to fix systemic obstacles. Maybe she's preparing for later? 

Not so much at Ralph's, but when she has to act a certain amount of domineering to get ahead and not get dismissed with something Frank Sinatra would say.

[ReturnofBroccoli]

Okay well *eventually* this will still apply to her in the post education and professional realm if nothing changes to fix systemic obstacles. Maybe she's preparing for later? 

Not so much at Ralph's, but when she has to act a certain way to get taken seriously and not dismissed with something Frank Sinatra would say.

What systemic obstacles. Point to the obstacle, hold the obstacle, otherwise, you are the obstacle. The entire women getting paid less for the same job as a man is bs. My wife makes the exact same as her peers. To the cent! *minus the health insurance plans you choose* So does every other woman in her profession in the entire state of texas at her rank level

Let me ask you this, "Why are women stupid enough to sign contracts for less than average pay"? Why would anyone accept that, if real, this isnt a communist country where one company literally makes all the shit for this one profession. There's an entire world of choice out there. Shit i'd be like hey, average pay for X job is $30 an hour. I'd tell them I expect $30 an hour, in my interview. Thats where you negotiate pay in the real world. At what point is this systemic obstacle even occurring and how are all these victims handling the problem because I dont think they are handling it like that if there is one

Also, management that domineers to get ahead are poor management. That attitude in certain companies will cause you to lose your employees or sales reps. Some industries like steel sales reps are vital because of the amount of knowledge needed to perform the duty and if you do something like underpay that they will move on to the next job.

I have a cousin I talk to like everyday who is regional manager of the steel supply warehouses for his company in Utah and California and the upper management is doing just that because their squeezing for profit but if you take people making 8,000 a month and cut that in half they will leave and I don't blame them.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

What systemic obstacles?

Do you want the rant of a lavender kraken?

Your wife is rare, but far less rare, but still at 83%. And I applaud everything about it. That is awesome. 

So let's start with the unconscious bias in hiring upper level roles?

Leadership is STILL equated with masculinity. And you know its true. It is BOLDLY worn by this administration that masculinity IS leadership and security, and women are to take submissive supportive roles and get fired when they power their will too much.

Men get promoted or hired for potential way more than women do. Women have to fucking prove it twice as hard and need to have experience to have a chance taken on them. Men dont always. Because they're men and have an unconscious advantage. 

Backlash is also real. Those are the obstacles of women AFTER getting leadership roles. Once again, the tendency to want to see leadership through a patriarchal lens has left women fighting their power being seen as opposed to entrenched gender roles. Its not feminine to be boss man. Its not feminine to be the disciplinarian.

Women accept the lower contracts because we have to if we want the opportunity.  Women's perceived timidness is taken advantage of when salaries come up. Unconscious bias favoring men again.

It often takes IN YOUR FACE activism to change that. .

For example, It took activism and a publicity stunt for The USWNT to get equal pay to the men. Even with multiple world cups. Until very recently they just had to accept they weren't worth equal pay if they wanted the opportunity of a lifetime to repeesent their country.

It took gender equality activism to make the women's NCAA tournament as important as the mens for prime coverage. To change the mindset to get men to want to watch women's sports and like it.

The obstacle is still one of the same ingrained patriarch that still sees the world through the lens of a judeochristian gender roles and the suggested behavior spelled out by gospel a long time ago.

Its one of an unconscious sexism that still discriminates without, even realizing it, because we are largely still prizes of chivalry to be kept safe.  One that INSISTS on seeing us through a lens of expected decorum and behavior right out of Emily Post Finishing school slavery...  Ladylike.. which can go fuck itself in all its time honored forms, unless you wanna be. 

Anything, including workplace roles, that defy, or sometimes trample on this expected heteronormality in any way, is viewed through a pejorative demeaning lens.

Hillary becomes a dyke pedo. Kamala is a whore. Pelosi eats children (though that one actually might be true).

All throughout our culture are examples of powerful left-leaning women that offended the white male patriarch status quo and get turned into, ice queens, whores, and lesbians and/or women that are really  men.

And now I will excuse myself from this thread and regret venting my day off again...

[Truthhurts]

At this point, we are witnessing the real identity of the Republican Party, the ones who insist "we are not racists." Observe how they erase areas of the map that would have allowed minorities to have representatives.