06-08-2024, 08:11 PM
I hear you. Truly. You created this thread to help others. That is an amazing thing, and completely consistent with the person you are. Wow. That was a clunky sentence. :D
Although I've never had depression, I am a fairly intuitive person. I've talked with my buddy at length. He's not a sad guy. In fact, nobody around him knows he has depression, except for his partner. I figured it out a couple of decades ago, when we were working together on a hazmat project. We travelled together, and that made the difference. It was the things that affected him as we travelled. Depression isn't about sadness, and yet that is a factor, imo. Certain things that many people would not be affected by made my buddy feel sad. Because I'm empathetic, I felt those things also; perhaps not to the extent that he did. I should not talk about him in the past tense, because my buddy is very much alive. It's just that he's in California and has COPD and can't travel, and we're here, and aren't willing to travel, so while we talk a fair bit, I don't really get to EXPERIENCE him any more. Not really, in the direct sense.
I used to love pot. Recently even. Of late, I've felt like I can't settle into the buzz of pot, due to the things going on around me. Our world down here has become a tad tense, and I have to feel relaxed and safe to be able to enjoy the buzz. I am SO glad you can enjoy the buzz. Pot is such a beautiful thing. It should be reclassified as a medicinal herb and let everybody do whatever the hell they want with it without worry of authoritarian interference.
I think you are right: Most antidepressants smooth out the deep pain, but perhaps also round out the beautiful peaks. I don't know what the answer is. I think that there MUST be some more natural treatment other than the wicked solutions proposed by big Pharma. My intuition says ginger, turmeric, cannabis, perhaps magnesium, only because is it SO very pivotal in all our physiological interactions... I can't help thinking that D3 in the form of being outside in the natural sunlight helps. I think being in the sea, or at least in the water is a benefit. I believe in grounding, the process of putting your bare feet on the Earth or in the water. I can't measure it, so as a scientist, I have to just believe, which is, of course, a conflict. .... I take St. John's Wort, because I think it eases my stress, and I've had more than a bit of it lately.
Here's the thing..... I don't really think that depression is a condition that can be fixed by any compounds. Conventional western medicine believes that there is a pill that makes everything better. Eastern medicine is easier, but still believes there are compounds -- however 'natural' -- that assuage the condition.
I think it's a process that is made better by interaction. Perhaps various compounds help, but I think the main juice is to interact with people who feel you. I think when people who have depression talk together with others who understand, that things are better.
You aren't broken. There is nothing wrong with you. There are a hella lot of people out there who have MUCH more problems than yours.
I think this thread should become a place for people to talk about depression, and the things that affect it. I think that will become a thing in which we can all participate.
Although I've never had depression, I am a fairly intuitive person. I've talked with my buddy at length. He's not a sad guy. In fact, nobody around him knows he has depression, except for his partner. I figured it out a couple of decades ago, when we were working together on a hazmat project. We travelled together, and that made the difference. It was the things that affected him as we travelled. Depression isn't about sadness, and yet that is a factor, imo. Certain things that many people would not be affected by made my buddy feel sad. Because I'm empathetic, I felt those things also; perhaps not to the extent that he did. I should not talk about him in the past tense, because my buddy is very much alive. It's just that he's in California and has COPD and can't travel, and we're here, and aren't willing to travel, so while we talk a fair bit, I don't really get to EXPERIENCE him any more. Not really, in the direct sense.
I used to love pot. Recently even. Of late, I've felt like I can't settle into the buzz of pot, due to the things going on around me. Our world down here has become a tad tense, and I have to feel relaxed and safe to be able to enjoy the buzz. I am SO glad you can enjoy the buzz. Pot is such a beautiful thing. It should be reclassified as a medicinal herb and let everybody do whatever the hell they want with it without worry of authoritarian interference.
I think you are right: Most antidepressants smooth out the deep pain, but perhaps also round out the beautiful peaks. I don't know what the answer is. I think that there MUST be some more natural treatment other than the wicked solutions proposed by big Pharma. My intuition says ginger, turmeric, cannabis, perhaps magnesium, only because is it SO very pivotal in all our physiological interactions... I can't help thinking that D3 in the form of being outside in the natural sunlight helps. I think being in the sea, or at least in the water is a benefit. I believe in grounding, the process of putting your bare feet on the Earth or in the water. I can't measure it, so as a scientist, I have to just believe, which is, of course, a conflict. .... I take St. John's Wort, because I think it eases my stress, and I've had more than a bit of it lately.
Here's the thing..... I don't really think that depression is a condition that can be fixed by any compounds. Conventional western medicine believes that there is a pill that makes everything better. Eastern medicine is easier, but still believes there are compounds -- however 'natural' -- that assuage the condition.
I think it's a process that is made better by interaction. Perhaps various compounds help, but I think the main juice is to interact with people who feel you. I think when people who have depression talk together with others who understand, that things are better.
You aren't broken. There is nothing wrong with you. There are a hella lot of people out there who have MUCH more problems than yours.
I think this thread should become a place for people to talk about depression, and the things that affect it. I think that will become a thing in which we can all participate.
