Eugenics

[Kwaka]

Looks like Bill Gates hit his excess mortality mark of 10%. Hard to say the exact number as the Australian Bureau of Statisticss cannot find a calculator like Barry Young in NZ could. The anonymized record level data is a state secret while many cannot go to work without that jab?

Eugenics ain't new. If you really think things are that bad, start with yourself, What the UN has become getting a bunch of megalomaniacs/psychopaths together has it issues. Having a building where nations can sort their stuff out without directly killing each other is an improvement.

China has been big on Eugenics for a while. Lot of hard stories around the one child policy. Now the Weigers and prison population in organ harvesting. If I was in the ruling class of such fertile land, listen to god/nature, do not consent to things that don't make sense., take it one day at a time. There is a significant cognitohazzard when thinking you can own it all. There is too much going on to think we can comprehend it all.

EDIT:  mod note to correct title spelling

If you want to get rid of a lot of locals, an interplanetary/stellar program will have a lot of losses. When it came to the colonization of Australia, many nations tried over the centuries and millennia. Egypt, china and Nordics done better than most a long time ago. The survivors got taken in by the locals. It was the British that where first in establishing a colony. From some reports, 95% of the first fleet died. Those with the guns held their ground until the next fleet arrived. London considered this a great success as at least something held. Many more boats arrived. The French did not make the colonization cut at the time, got close.

So do we kill and shorten life on many from some RNA experiment, or do we value informed consent where most that do try for space travel will fail. Maybe some will survive with enough resources and backup?

I see my area more like a country town. The first freeway is growing to make it a city. I know congestion  sucks Nature already has death sorted. Not on board a panic attack with that one.

Is there a good argument for humanity? Is there a good argument  for eugenic?

I know my day is coming, If there is life after death, I am putting in for another planet with how crazy things are here. Any comment, rant or insight is welcome.

[UltraBudgie]

One thing I've been thinking about is that "eugenics" is usually thought of as "racial supremacy" -- reduce the population, squeeze out other ethnic groups, "purify the bloodlines", etc. Nazi stuff.

Perhaps that is an entirely false propaganda shibboleth. I do think that powerful groups still practice eugenics, but I think their methods are entirely different than the 100-year old model the public has been trained to hate.

The practice seems to involve "braids" of closely-interbreeding dynastic bloodlines, who draw in new genetics from a larger, chaotic population pool that is encouraged to interbreed. Positive combinations of new alleles are given opportunity in the larger gene pool, and if they succeed or are useful, they are married into the "outer family" of these bloodlines, and perhaps mixed into successive generations of the elite population.

The Anglosphere has been facing problems with interbreeding in the top 0.01% for generations, and has likely developed sophisticated methods of maintaining and improving their genestock. We just don't see it. They're not squeamish about race-mixing; the eugenics they actually practice is much more progressive. They simply don't do it haphazardly. Meanwhile, for cover, they get the population all riled up about silly destructive racism that they don't actually practice.

Migration policy, such as that advocated by Mr Soros, makes much more sense when viewed through this lens.

[Maxmars]

One thing I've been thinking about is that "eugenics" is usually thought of as "racial supremacy" -- reduce the population, squeeze out other ethnic groups, "purify the bloodlines", etc. Nazi stuff.

Perhaps that is an entirely false propaganda shibboleth. I do think that powerful groups still practice eugenics, but I think their methods are entirely different than the 100-year old model the public has been trained to hate.

The practice seems to involve "braids" of closely-interbreeding dynastic bloodlines, who draw in new genetics from a larger, chaotic population pool that is encouraged to interbreed. Positive combinations of new alleles are given opportunity in the larger gene pool, and if they succeed or are useful, they are married into the "outer family" of these bloodlines, and perhaps mixed into successive generations of the elite population.

The Anglosphere has been facing problems with interbreeding in the top 0.01% for generations, and has likely developed sophisticated methods of maintaining and improving their genestock. We just don't see it. They're not squeamish about race-mixing; the eugenics they actually practice is much more progressive. They simply don't do it haphazardly. Meanwhile, for cover, they get the population all riled up about silly destructive racism that they don't actually practice.

Migration policy, such as that advocated by Mr Soros, makes much more sense when viewed through this lens.

That conjures up imagery of Herbert's Bene Gesserit in Dune.



Controlling the outcomes of social order based upon the oldest myths of human time: bloodline supremacy.

I'm not sure whether I should laugh at the presumption, or cry at the tragic attempts.

I see another aspect of the 'eugenicist' in "power"...
not just actively pursuing the outcomes of mass death,
but also not protecting anyone from true hazards...
thus engendering a culling.

[Kwaka]

racial supremacy

It is one way to put it for the victors. Mass murder is another way to describe it for the victims.

With the current covid operation, a tolerance to spike protein will rein supreme. Bill Gates was one putting out the rally call against vaccination hesitancy. WHO, WEF, media, scientific publications and corporate chain of command all in lockstep. There where three national heads of state that questioned things died, to be replaced by a more WHO compliant leaders. A powerful, well organized group with global reach.

There is a lot more to the medical mafia with the financial conflicts of interest going on in the drug trade. Lot more money in life long treatments than short term cures. As for what kind of cost this puts on the rest of society?

The war machine still carries on for racial supremacy. Been a part of this world for a long time, jungle rules. Fine line between building stronger, faster weapons and blowing the whole planet up these days.

The transgender movement has been a strange one, high infertility rates there. Looks like medical research has been approved to develop clones so messing with gender is attempting to crack how birthing works. Lots of reports of the gray aliens describe no sexual organs, like they are cloned. Are they still on the dark side of the Moon pulling their strings?

Lots of risks and ways to die in this world. It was good to grow up in a community that did care and respect life. It has been a luxury compared to the education other kids are getting in some parts of this world.

[UltraBudgie]

The war machine still carries on for racial supremacy. Been a part of this world for a long time, jungle rules. Fine line between building stronger, faster weapons and blowing the whole planet up these days.

Lots of good stuff in that post. Thank you.

Heard a good quote today: "A terrorist is a person with a bomb, but no Air Force."

[Kwaka]

As part farm boy, culling is a part of the job at times. First time was messy, got a better in time in wanting a quick, clean kill. Those day when there is a lot to kill left something empty inside. Hard to describe, a kind of disconnection?

Some in the industry liked the blood lust, I did too at times, it is energizing. An experiment one day was too see if we enjoyed killing. I did not as I felt some of what the creature experienced. Others did enjoy as that disconnection remained.

I don't know how to combat this historical fighting nature, except to say it is part of the spiritual battle in a world of self determination. If I grew up with a dungeon in my basement... tough gig.

[Kwaka]

One saying my dad use to have: 'better the devil you know'. Lot of dirty jobs in this world. Having some one sort it out before it festers ain't always a bad thing. Without that bastard we all love to hate, who is next in line if they fall?  Usually someone worst.

But when up against a social order profiting off pain and disconnected from the implications of their decisions, we are all going to die one day.

As a Christian, the spiritual battlefield on Earth does have its percussion, the hope of something bigger than us. No good deed goes unpunished. Jesus did not die for my sins, he lived so we did not inherent such a sinful world.

Some still play by the rules of war, that is between them and god. Without most people doing the right thing, these people will still be fighting with sticks and stones.

[Karl12]

Great thread and the pseudoscience of eugenics has been responsible for some truly heinous horrors inflicted on humanity.

There's a very short vid below with a good breakdown - unhinged lunatic (and Fabian Socialist) George Bernard Shaw also shares his extremely silly (and evil) opinions.








5:15 in this vid also explains a lot about the mindset of certain families.






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[GENERAL EYES]

WIthout going into extensive details, i studied Eugenics fback in school and I tend to hold true to the highest order of certain concepts, mainly focusing on the natural breeding cycles of humans and so forth, allowing for choice and letting the Mysteries decide themselves.

Too much biomechanaical engeenering leads to unhappy consequences.

Too much purity has it's own Fall.

House of Usher, Ya'll.

[Karl12]

WIthout going into extensive details, i studied Eugenics fback in school..

Not being funny mate but what school teaches the pseudoscience of eugenics?

I agree with your post but regarding all the utterly disproven 'dsygenic germ plasm' and rhetoric about 'humam weeds' then what on earth is there to discuss?

Am a big fan of anthropology so may just be getting my terminology wrong but when it comes to the insecure durge put out by 'The American Eugenics Society', Sanger, Shaw, Wells, Russell, Rockefeller and the father of Bill Gates then it's scientifically laughable.

Have I got it wrong? What exactly did you study?


• Handy quote:

• "There is only one sane and logical thing to be done with a really inferior race, and that is to exterminate it."

H.G. Wells.

link

Cheers.