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Enough is Enough - this is getting ridiculous
#1
I love the threads you guys are making on the UAP and NJ drone stuff but I felt the need to consolidate questions that I have on the subject as a separate topic.

I tend to not get caught up in current events and always try to take a 1000 ft view of things, hence some questions I have.

Q.  Why did the Pentagon spokesperson mention a "Iranian drone mothership" rumor when this really hasn't been a talking point.  Until now...

Q.  They KNOW it's not a foreign-actor flying these.  If it were, there would be a completely different, visible response in these areas.  Not "we'll leave it up to local authorities.." so why aren't local actors (politicians etc) being brought up to speed?

Q.  Why are we pushing and popularizing uneducated witness and "researcher" accounts and statements?   Where are the die-hard UFO investigators with proper equipment, knowledge of Airplane vs NOT Airplane identification etc?

Q. Why the timing?  What is the recorded timeline over the past year (narrow scope) of congressional testimony, hearings, sightings/events and narratives being crafted in the press regarding pretty much anything (war posturing, threats, safety concerns et.al)

Q.  Why are the term(s) "safety", "flight safety", "aerial threat" being constantly repeated?  These are new when discussing UFO/UAP content except in very specific, historic cases.

Q.  Why is our best evidence of these occurrances TikTok, YouTube, Facebook and Instagram?

Q.  What is the overall goal?  
    - Marginalization of seeing something you can't explain in the sky?
    -Distraction?  What else might be going on that needed a different "topic du'jour" to pull attention away
    -Lead-up to a "relevation" that requires an aggressive reaction from our military/government. (kind of like C19 and vaccinations)

Q.  Why is the purported evidence of these events that are beining shown across all major outlets and which are easily debunked/explained STILL being shown.  Where are the fact-based responses and debunkers and why aren't they getting any attention? 

Q.  What keywords are being constantly repeated?   Identify those and you can being to see the narrative being crafted or played out


I look forward to your replies and PLEASE do me a favor (personal request).  DO NOT simply just paste a link to a YouTube video or accounting  of a story that happend 40 years ago.  If you watch something that makes sense or answers something above, please include a reference or quote. 

Thank you all
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#2
Opened Chrome just now - navigated to news.google.com to see what's going on.

Main page, 3rd story down
[Image: narrative20241213.jpg]

clicked on US, 4th section from top
[Image: narrative2_2241213.jpg]


I visited google news AFTER I composed this thread (time/date included. CST)
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#3
The only narrative, if you'd call it that, is the chinese fire drill of local response we've seen plus the uselessness of the DOD an other agencies.

To be fair there's a LOT of misidentifications happening.

One thing that stands out is the drones aren't showing up in the middle of Iowa. Just over the east coast and not even the entirety of the east coast. Only the parts of the east coast with things like Quantico, Ft.Meade, DC & people forget all the oil refineries in NJ.

The official silence on this (JMO) leads me to think the Drones are ours.
One major issue is that no ones commenting on what our cluster cluck optics are showing the entire world. Forget Russia launching missiles, they can save 'em cause we can't even handle drone incursions.
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#4
How about they are ours so they are ordered to leave them be?
Just like stand downs on 9/11.
I said in the other thread these don't seem to be showing any signs of exotic technology?
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#5
(12-13-2024, 01:29 PM)Raptured Wrote: I tend to not get caught up in current events and always try to take a 1000 ft view of things..


Some astute observations there mate and the corporate media response to all this does feel a bit 'scripted'.

Also thought the timing was pretty suspect and fair to say the UFO threat narrative prepping has been in full swing for quite a while now.

Would agree the distraction value is also off the charts and considering the current political landscape then suppose nothing is off the table lol (even COG).

Hope I'm wrong on that but considering these antics have now been going on for nearly a month (and the US spends over 800 billion a year on 'defense') the official response sounds a bit blasé and apathetic to me.

Would also say this is a really relevant quote by NASA's John Schuessler.




Quote:• "There is no doubt in my mind that today if not many times over the past fifty years we have had the surveillance capabilities to completely monitor the activities of certain UFO flights –and know exactly when they’re going, where they’re going, how they’re going, where they appear form and leave to, all the characteristics about them – we have radar based devices that will not only show the distance, direction and azimuth of an object and all that but will also how shape. We have devices the army has developed for tracking projectiles – they check the acoustic wave and when something crosses over they can immediately track that data and go back to the source. That’s how they track where a mortar is or a howitzer. We can use that same technology – and its portable – for tracking UFOs.

I don’t believe any of these things fly over our country today without being known and if somebody wanted the UFO mystery to completely disappear they could in five minutes release enough data to show exactly what’s going on and is not going on."

John F. Schuessler, Executive Director of MUFON (Mutual UFO Network)

Beer
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#6
I'm strongly getting the feeling that the WEF and their "15 minute city" is behind this crap.
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#7
(12-13-2024, 11:32 PM)jaded Wrote: One major issue is that no ones commenting on what our cluster cluck optics are showing the entire world. Forget Russia launching missiles, they can save 'em cause we can't even handle drone incursions.


Yes pretty embarrassing from a global perspective mate - the official response is 'they're not ours' so make what you will of that.

Technically speaking they then become 'Unidentified Flying Objects' so thought Dolan raised a good point here about official (and ironic) claims of 'UFO transparency'.

Don't know if he's on the payroll and 'narrative prepping' but noticed a few years back that in literally every single interview Michio Kaku was drip-feeding a line about 'hypersonic drones'.

Here he is talking to the South China Morning Post in 2021 where he expanded his narrative to include hypersonic drones and 'probably cybernetic' objects.
















(12-13-2024, 01:29 PM)Raptured Wrote: Lead-up to a "relevation" that requires an aggressive reaction from our military/government. (kind of like C19 and vaccinations)


It really is true that 'anything's possible' (especially these days) and do get the vibe we could just be at the beginning of something - hopefully December and early January won't go completely bonkers.

Beer
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#8
Isn't it interesting how the drone 'flap' we are enduring is so 'celebrated and inflated' now?

Has anyone else noted the proliferation of "talking heads" with something to 'add' to the conversation?  New "drone" celebrities recycle every old account and flourish it with 'new' characterizations, and new references to other celebrities?  Each spawning new traffic, and new opportunities to 'celebrate' the sudden 'importance' they all promote?

Has anyone stopped to account for the numerous 'moving dot' in the sky video productions, the 'colorful light shows' suddenly flooding the info-sphere that make so many feel 'uneasy' and 'threatened' about?

I attempted to collect a sample of the many 'short' samples of video to explore their similarities and the potential of computer generated imagery... but I was overwhelmed by their number (that and the frequent "uncopiable" nature of the videos themselves - many of them are 'protected' like Hollywood/Madison Avenue entertainment productions.)  

I fear that if there is any truth within this conglomerate story, it is that it is largely a human 'production' which will drown out or obscure anything new that people should be focusing on.
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#9
This was interesting enough to bring up here,
NJ county sheriff sends own drone up to follow mystery flying objects
Quote:A fed-up New Jersey sheriff said he tried to track the mystery drones swarming the skies above his county — but they “easily” evaded the effort.
 
The Ocean County Sheriff’s office sent its own “industrial grade” drone into the air Thursday in a bid to follow one of 50 unmanned aerial vehicles a local cop saw “coming off the ocean,” Sheriff Michael Mastronardy said.
 
The officer alerted the state police, the FBI and the US Coast Guard. Coast Guard officials then reported 13 drones, with wingspans of eight feet, following one of their vessels.
 
The mysterious drones, which don’t give off heat like more typical versions, swiftly maneuvered out of their clutches, Mastronardy told News Nation reporter Rich McHugh.
So, if this is true, and the US Government isn't lying about these not being Iranian in origin, then my gut telling me that the WEF is behind these drone events. Why else would Administration Officials say that they don't have the authority to shoot them down. 

At first I thought these drone events were like the Chinese Balloon crap, but now it's looking a bit more complex than that. It smells of WEF.
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#10
(12-14-2024, 11:24 AM)guyfriday Wrote: At first I thought these drone events were like the Chinese Balloon crap, but now it's looking a bit more complex than that. It smells of WEF.

Thank you for mentioning that.  The fact that those balloons got so much traction in our media leads me to think it's somehow related to what's currently going on.  Not from a technological standpoint but a psychological one
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