Elon to offically start the American Party

[Sky727]

https://x.com/iamnot_elon/status/1941586602096042096
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930685402...lang=en-GB
While it is needed all this will do is give the Democrats a win as the conservatives will be divided like when Perot ran for president.

Best way to do this is get 70% of the incumbent reps and senators out next election and change the Party from within IMO

[Sky727]

https://lists.theepochtimes.com/links/fD...c9SYp6wgk5

Musk Launches ‘America Party,’ Vows to Challenge 2-Party Dominance
Tech entrepreneur Elon Musk has officially launched a new political party, announcing the formation of the America Party in a July 5 post on his social media platform X.
“Today, the America Party is formed to give you back your freedom,” Musk wrote, following a poll he posted a day earlier asking his followers whether they would support such an initiative.“Independence Day is the perfect time to ask if you want independence from the two-party (some would say uniparty) system,” Musk wrote on July 4. “Should we create the America Party?”Musk’s poll found that 65.4 percent of respondents favored establishing the America Party. The announcement of the new party was made following Musk’s fierce criticism of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, a sweeping measure signed into law by President Donald Trump on July 4.Musk’s opposition to the bill stems largely from its deficit-financed spending. A staunch advocate of fiscal restraint, he championed reining in government spending during his involvement in Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) initiative. The Congressional Budget Office has projected that the reconciliation budget measure will add approximately $3.25 trillion to the deficit over a decade.Since early June, Musk has teased the idea of a new political party aimed at what he describes as the “80 percent in the middle.” A poll he shared on June 5 showed about 80 percent of respondents agreeing that the country needs a new political force—an outcome Musk called “fate.”

[StoutBroux]

Musk can try.  And it isn't like a large portion of Americans haven't been clamoring for years for a new party.  But more than a few problems this will have, because:

Independents haven't been able to really get their party off the ground with major support so history doesn't support a new party, at least not with any real power.

Musk might possibly suffer from more than Asperger's syndrome.  I'm leaning towards a bit bipolar. 

Musk who was crazy popular, deflated that love from the Left when he showed support for Trump.

Trump has barely gotten his plans off the ground and I believe people are more than willing to see how this plays out.

Because of the firm divide between the left and the right, it has created a firmer adhesion within each side.  Which doesn't leave a lot of air for dissidence.  But then there's the generational division which has the youth that seems more flexible in their naivety.  

And that's where Mamdani comes in with a mix of Socialism, Communism, Capitalism and Muslim.  A Shia Muslim specifically who identifies with the Twelver branch. Albeit the Shia's seem more tolerant than the Sunni sect, it's still Muslim.  He's hell bent on destroying New York City.  And if one is pushing socialism, why does he push for $30/hour wages?  

Musk, another recent USA citizen, born in South Africa and holds citizenship in both America and Canada.  And he wants to create the perfect party for America.  Hmmmmm.

The timing isn't great for a new party.  The foundation of America is still pretty strong.

This makes Musk seem even more buttsore.  He misses all that adoration he got campaigning with Trump.  Musk is good at what he does.  Becoming a politician isn't one of his greatest ideas.  He didn't unite the Conservatives; he was riding Trump's coattails.  He just hasn't figured it out yet.  It was all Trump. Musk was just window dressing.

[EXETER]

https://x.com/iamnot_elon/status/1941586602096042096
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930685402...lang=en-GB
While it is needed all this will do is give the Democrats a win as the conservatives will be divided like when Perot ran for president.

Best way to do this is get 70% of the incumbent reps and senators out next election and change the Party from within IMO

It depends entirely on how this is implemented.  Back about 30 or 40 years ago or so, Repubs and Dems were not all that statistically separated in terms of ideology--around 10% of the votes, or so.  That's why the election outcome could swing back and forth on any given election cycle.  Since then, Rs and Ds have become separated by 20% or so of the votes.  So it takes a larger swing of independents to change the outcome one way or another.  Since the Electoral College favors rural states and therefore conservatives, that has made it easier for conservatives to win and harder for liberals to win.  If what you want is for conservatives to consistently win, then you will be all in favor of maintaining the status quo.  

But that is not what Elon is claiming he wants.  He claims he wants politics to move closer to the center (the 80%, or whatever). If that's true, then the extreme right wing of the Republican Party will have to lose some influence that they have now. That pretty much means jettisoning the MAGA contingent.  Likewise, that means that the extreme left wing of the Democrat Party will have to lose influence.  That pretty much means cutting loose Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and AOC.  Of course, neither Party is going to want to do that, but if Elon could make that happen, then he could actually become an important third political force in the center.  

Right now, it looks like he's more likely to take a position close to what you are suggesting--just slightly to the left of MAGA.  Not enough to truly create a centrist majority, but possibly enough to give the Ds a win in 2026 and 2028.  I'm not sure Elon has actually thought this through.

[Solvedit]

Does anyone see a little viciousness in Musk's actions with DOGE from the outset?

Could a billionaire businessman really be so completely wrong about how much DOGE could save?

Can it be he worked out how to make it look futile to cut government pork and makework? 

Now he can say he opened his eyes and has become a moderate.

Anyone could realize his EV credit pork barrel was going to go away.  He surely knew going in he was going to lose it.  

Can it be his defection was planned long ago?  Can it be he has his eyes on the presidency?

[sahgwa]

Pretty sure this is a nonstory.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-melts...ica-party/

He may have talked about it but I dont think its a real thing
 “This filing is false and has been reported as such to the FEC,” Musk wrote.
Musk’s latest move comes after he pledged to hit back against Republicans for passing President Donald Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill,” which is projected to add $4.5 trillion to the national debt.
Despite no paperwork being filed, Musk has still been promoting his party on X with posts like “The America Party is needed to fight the Republican/Democrat Uniparty,” and, “the America Party is the solution.”