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Don't get me started about "Internet" voting...
#1
Internet voting is insecure and should not be used in public elections

Yeah... it's a blog
And the 'petition' is signed by a dozen or so scientists...

But the content makes very important points... pertinent in any conversation about
who we trust to tell us "how our vote is safe."
 
Quote:Scientists have understood for many years that internet voting is insecure and that there is no known or foreseeable technology that can make it secure. Still, vendors of internet voting keep claiming that, somehow, their new system is different, or the insecurity doesn’t matter. Bradley Tusk and his Mobile Voting Foundation keep touting internet voting to journalists and election administrators; this whole effort is misleading and dangerous.

I feel ya, buddy.

Trying to tell this perspective to 'voting authorities' is like trying to tell some people there is no "AI."
#2
(01-30-2026, 10:44 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Internet voting is insecure and should not be used in public elections

Yeah... it's a blog
And the 'petition' is signed by a dozen or so scientists...

But the content makes very important points... pertinent in any conversation about
who we trust to tell us "how our vote is safe."
 

I feel ya, buddy.

Trying to tell this perspective to 'voting authorities' is like trying to tell some people there is no "AI."


I live in Oregon.

We feel like voting is worthless because someone has already voted for us.
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
#3
Welcome to western Canada.

The large population is in Ontario and Quebec. Thus we have whatever their bs of the week to deal with. 

Still, better to be a Canadian province than the alternative.

Meh, there’s always Mexico….


Tecate
If it’s hot, wet and sticky and it’s not yours, don’t touch it!
#4
Worth reading about Bradley Tusk, the money behind this effort:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Tusk

Quote:Kiniry agrees it’s way too soon to use mobile voting in national elections, but Tusk is betting that eventually the systems become familiar, to the point where people trust them much more than traditional paper ballots. “Once the genie’s out of the bottle, they can’t put it back, right?” he says. “That’s been true for every tech I’ve worked on.” But first the genie has to get out of the bottle. That’s no cinch.
https://www.wired.com/story/bradley-tusk...-protocol/

Anyway, no worries! They've fixed it by using something called "blockchain"! Lol
#5
If it's safe enough to use your bank credentials why isn't it safe enough to vote?
#6
(01-31-2026, 08:33 AM)ArMaP Wrote: If it's safe enough to use your bank credentials why isn't it safe enough to vote?

My vote could be worth more to a politician, than whatever might be in my bank account.
#7
(01-31-2026, 08:33 AM)ArMaP Wrote: If it's safe enough to use your bank credentials why isn't it safe enough to vote?

Many examples are reported about why it isn't safe to register a citizens vote via 'electronic' no-contact systems...

But they all hinge on a single precept... can anyone guarantee the a citizens vote is 'registered' and 'tallied' accurately?

Everyone can guarantee that whatever the citizen did, was done... especially the citizens themselves...

If the matter is about trust of service rendered... again - the industry has 'proven' itself unworthy of the trust.


SO why don't we vote via banking credentials?

That'd be fun.

The bank no longer living the lie and simply 'telling us' who won.

There's a deep dive in there somewhere... but... it's a sizeable (and distasteful) set of facts to digest.
#8
(01-31-2026, 01:31 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: My vote could be worth more to a politician, than whatever might be in my bank account.



Why limit themselves to only your bank account when with your vote they can have both?
#9
(01-31-2026, 01:31 PM)IDELB2006 Wrote: My vote could be worth more to a politician, than whatever might be in my bank account.


I think it's bittersweet that the only place our vote has "political" value is in it's misuse.

How it's "narrated," how many people does it take to count?

Why is the "count" not "just a count of numbers?"

It's the production, the 'show,' the 'advertising, activism, and alarm' strategy of their world....

We love it so.

They sing... we dance.
#10
(01-31-2026, 01:39 PM)Maxmars Wrote: Many examples are reported about why it isn't safe to register a citizens vote via 'electronic' no-contact systems...

What are "no-contact systems"=

Quote:But they all hinge on a single precept... can anyone guarantee the a citizens vote is 'registered' and 'tallied' accurately?

That should be easy to do, after all, the people that create those systems are not the only ones that know how those things work, if the systems are analysed by other people and they agree that it is safe it should be considered safe.

PS: how do people guarantee that using the traditional system the votes are registered and tallied accurately?



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