Do you hate certain people?

[DBCowboy]

Philosophy/psychology/religious question .... Do you hate certain people and is it okay?

The online dictionary definition of hate - to feel intense passionate dislike for (someone)

What are some signs or symptoms of 'intense passionate dislike' - hate?  (from AI Google Assist)  Constant name calling.   Derision.  Mocking.  Ridicule.   Physical and/or vocal tantrums when dealing or thinking of the person.   Hostility or hate speech.  Expressive physical activities against the person.  Advocating harm against the person.  Disrespect.   Engaging in gossip and spreading conspiracy theory type information against a person without proof of the truth of it.

I should note that having to talk about someone and telling the truth about someone is different than doing something with hate.   Intent and verbiage is important in the distinction.

Do you feel hate towards certain people?  Do you find yourself with passionate dislike for someone ... constantly calling them names and wishing ill will upon them?   Is that a bad thing or just a natural human emotion and you think it's okay?   Do you try to 'hate the sin but love the sinner' or is that not part of your philosophy?   Do you feel the need for revenge upon those who have wronged you?   "Revenge is mine" (allegedly) says God.   Is revenge okay or is it hate?   

Examples - What about when you see the news and the report is about a person who tortured helpless animals ... do you not just hate what they did but hate the person who did it as well?   Is this a natural response and it's okay or are you falling short of the 'love your neighbor' even though he does something evil?   What about something more personal - if a parent, whom you as a child naturally are supposed to trust and receive love from, instead abuses you and beats you?   Is it okay to hate that person and want revenge or is heroic love required in hating what they did and still loving them?   What about the politicians that you disagree with?   What about the people who follow the ideology of the politicians you disagree with.   Do you love them but hate what they do?   Or do you find yourself with 'intense passionate dislike" (hate) towards them?

What is 'love of neighbor'?   What is 'hate the sin but love the sinner'?   
The online dictionary definition of love - an intense feeling of deep affection.   

Do you have intense feelings of deep affection for everyone, including those who have wronged you and those who have done great evil?   In Christianity this is called heroic love.   Or do you find yourself justified in hating these people.   In Christianity this is called active sin and it's on you, not the person you hate.

For me ... I fall way short on this.   I have 'love of neighbor' in that I hope everyone makes it to heaven, and we donate to charity and volunteer, and pray for people.   But when I read about horrific things people do - like the example of people torturing helpless animals -  I find that I not only hate what they do but I hate the person doing them as well.   "Intense passionate dislike" ... that's hate.   It's a natural response that we are supposed to try to get past and turn into love for the sinner.  

Most of us haven't been 'put to the test' ... we haven't had to endure the tortures of truly evil people for years at a time like the hostages in Israel had to endure being held in Gaza.    I know I wouldn't pass the test of loving the people who would torture and abuse me.   

So how about it?   Do you have 'intense passionate dislike" (hate) for people you hear about or that you encounter?   And is it okay and natural and perhaps even healthy to hate the people doing evil ... or do you feel that you are falling short and have to work harder on 'love thy neighbor'?    And I suppose an even longer discussion could be had about what constitutes 'evil' ... and is it a subjective word in this world.

I hate what some people say.

I hate what some people do.

But do I hate the person doing it?

Dunno. . . . . . .

[Solvedit]

What are some signs or symptoms of 'intense passionate dislike' - hate?  (from AI Google Assist)  Constant name calling.   Derision.  Mocking.  Ridicule.   Physical and/or vocal tantrums when dealing or thinking of the person.   Hostility or hate speech.  Expressive physical activities against the person.  Advocating harm against the person.  Disrespect.   Engaging in gossip and spreading conspiracy theory type information against a person without proof of the truth of it.

Don't some belief systems say it causes unintentional rapport?  Perhaps it's why some people seem to try to deliberately upset others.

Why did Jesus think we could so easily 'love our neighbor as we love ourself'? Is it really that easy to flip that switch?

The Gospel doesn't promise it would be easy.

[FlyersFan]

I hate what some people say.

I hate what some people do.

But do I hate the person doing it?

Dunno. . . . . . .

That's the question.
Do you hate the sin but love the sinner?
Or do you have intense passionate dislike for the person as well?
And if you do, is it a bad thing like the bible says?

My example from page one ...
I read/heard about a person who tortured animals.
I instantly hated both what he did .. and the man as well.
The bible says my response should be to love the man and pray for him.
But my instant response was one of hate towards the man.

[quintessentone]

Don't some belief systems say it causes unintentional rapport?  Perhaps it's why some people seem to try to deliberately upset others.

The Gospel doesn't promise it would be easy.

It's not what men speak of in the Gospels, it's what Jesus thought that was possible within his teaching and preaching (his Ministry).

Jesus certainly upset others or they upset themselves in so far as to escalate their being upset into a hate or fear which grew so much so as to push them to orchestrate or be complicit in his murder.

Could a belief system be used as a tool to control and/or escalate others' hate?

[FlyersFan]

Could a belief system be used as a tool to control and/or escalate others' hate?

Absolutely.  It happens all the time.

And part of that is that once you are part of a belief system, you see other systems as a threat to that system, so you can hate those other systems and the people who push those systems.

[DBCowboy]

That's the question.
Do you hate the sin but love the sinner?
Or do you have intense passionate dislike for the person as well?
And if you do, is it a bad thing like the bible says?

My example from page one ...
I read/heard about a person who tortured animals.
I instantly hated both what he did .. and the man as well.
The bible says my response should be to love the man and pray for him.
But my instant response was one of hate towards the man.

I wish I was a better person and could separate the two, the sin and the sinner.

I guess all we can do is try.

[quintessentone]

Absolutely.  It happens all the time.

And part of that is that once you are part of a belief system, you see other systems as a threat to that system, so you can hate those other systems and the people who push those systems.

In these times, I think personal responsibility for one's feelings/actions and the pursuit of knowledge/questioning/skepticism should be enough to counteract those types of manipulations.

Proverbs 29:11 ESVA

A fool gives full vent to his spirit, but a wise man quietly holds it back.

[Solvedit]

It's not what men speak of in the Gospels, it's what Jesus thought that was possible within his teaching and preaching (his Ministry).

Jesus certainly upset others or they upset themselves in so far as to escalate their being upset into a hate or fear which grew so much so as to push them to orchestrate or be complicit in his murder.

Could a belief system be used as a tool to control and/or escalate others' hate?

I don't think upset was the goal. 

The goal was probably to be able to say what needed to be said despite upset.

Doing so is probably facilitated by not letting people live in your head.  

Mindfulness, Metta, and equanimity meditation practice seems to create a little distance from the people you won't stand.

[quintessentone]

I don't think upset was the goal. 

The goal was probably to be able to say what needed to be said despite upset.

Doing so is probably facilitated by not letting people live in your head.  

Mindfulness, Metta, and equanimity meditation practice seems to create a little distance from the people you won't stand.

Or in Jesus' time, tapping into your divine spirit to live your life according to God's commandments, not men's arbitrary self-serving rules.

Today, people are more educated and becoming more global and perhaps more insightful into themselves (I would hope) so I am hopeful future generations will be able to hate less by understanding themselves and each other.

The future world seems to be heading into a more global digitally socialized space where other factors are at play, namely isolation pushing for belonging anywhere/needing validation being the great orchestrator of the innocent/naive or those not paying attention/not questioning or otherwise disadvantaged.

[Solvedit]

Or in Jesus' time, tapping into your divine spirit to live your life according to God's commandments, not men's arbitrary self-serving rules.

I can't help but recall that many near east religions regarded the solar plexus as the seat of the soul.  Could it be the Most Important Commandment was a plain-speech instruction not to pray by thinking of your needs and besieging heaven with requests, but to pray by simply loving God while being aware of your mind, heart, and solar plexus rather than thinking of who offended you last and what you would like to happen to them?