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Do you hate certain people?
#11
Although I don't hate anyone, there are some people I would prefer to be dead than spreading their hate. Smile

That doesn't mean I want to kill them or that someone else kills them, I just want them out of this existence.

The latest example: a few months ago, just before the parliament elections, I was going to work (I walk, it's only a 300 metres walk) and in front of me was an elderly couple that I see every day going up and down that street, and they were talking about the leader of the Portuguese far right party Chega, and they were talking about how his ideas are the best (I disagree), but then the woman asks the man "what about Gypsies", and he answers "they should all be killed".
That's the kind of person I want to disappear from this world, the dangerous idiots that act without thinking or, worse, think they are better than other humans just because they are different in some way.

PS: I think "hate" may also be a question of language, as in Portuguese we don't use the equivalent word that much, and when we use we usually do it regarding simple things, like "I hate peanuts", for example. We just say we don't like something. Smile
#12
(11-16-2025, 07:12 AM)quintessentone Wrote: He would be cancelled, don't you think?

Possibly.

But being ignored is somewhat more palatable than crucifixion.

Progress?  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#13
(11-16-2025, 07:18 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Possibly.

But being ignored is somewhat more palatable than crucifixion.

Progress?  Saint2

Or he would receive death threats from those crazy enough to carry them out (?)
"The only journey is the one within."
#14
(11-16-2025, 07:20 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Or he would receive death threats from those crazy enough to carry them out (?)

Seems to me if they are thetening him.

It would hardly equate to being ignored.

The thing about death threats I've never understood.

Is if you are coming for someone, why advertise the fact?

That's simply the epitome of counterproductivity imho.  Saint2
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#15
(11-16-2025, 06:29 AM)quintessentone Wrote: My daughter and I were discussing 'what is hate' and we both don't really understand what it is. Is it a psychological/personality disorder or is it a choice?

The online dictionary definition of hate - to feel intense passionate dislike for (someone)

The question ... can you help how you feel.  It's natural instinct. 
How to work against it?
And in some cases, SHOULD you work against it.
Is it safer to hate someone who is evil?
Or do you have to practice heroic love and love them anyways?
And how do you make  yourself feel love for someone you hate?
Gotta' bring God into it to do that.
#16
(11-16-2025, 07:25 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Seems to me if they are thetening him.

It would hardly equate to being ignored.

The thing about death threats I've never understood.

Is if you are coming for someone, why advertise the fact?

That's simply the epitome of counterproductivity imho.  Saint2

I didn't say it equated to being ignored, I stated an 'or', an alternative but also one could look on ignoring and unaliving as wanting the person to cease to exist in their reality.

As for advertising the desire to unalive someone, well that may speak to the psychosis of hate, where the hate is forefront in all actions and removing any logic or critical thinking.
"The only journey is the one within."
#17
(11-16-2025, 07:15 AM)ArMaP Wrote: Although I don't hate anyone, there are some people I would prefer to be dead than spreading their hate. 

I would classify that more as self defense rather than hating someone.
Evolutionary psychology.
You want to be rid of those who can do you harm.
It's natural.

The Christian view is that you should want to convert the person so as to better them and the world.   
It takes heroic love to want to convert rather than to wish death on someone.   
Most of us don't have heroic love.
#18
(11-16-2025, 07:52 AM)quintessentone Wrote: As for advertising the desire to unalive someone, well that may speak to the psychosis of hate, where the hate is forefront in all actions and removing any logic or critical thinking.

Yeah, i think that about covers it.

Hate is seldom the product of logic or critical thinking.

And 9 times out of 10, idiots screaming threats and wishing ill will are simply blowing their own trumpet.

I mean, there are exceptions to the rule....
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
#19
"I met the devil"
The statement made by freed Israeli hostage Rom Braslavski.
He was 'put to the test'.   2 years of unending sadism.
How do you not hate people who do that to you?
The only way .. believing that God commanded it.
He didn't say if he hated them.   
He just called what he endured evil.


From Google AI ASSIST-

The phrase "I came back from meeting the devil" was a statement made by freed Israeli hostage Rom Braslavski to describe the horrific sexual assault and torture he endured during more than two years of captivity in Gaza.

 
Braslavski, who was kidnapped from the Nova Music Festival on October 7, 2023, by Palestinian Islamic Jihad (a Hamas ally), shared his harrowing experience in an interview with Israeli media. He described being stripped naked, tied up, starved, and subjected to frequent sexual violence intended to humiliate and "crush his dignity".

 
In his testimony, he stated that the abuse was "something even the Nazis didn't do," emphasizing the extreme level of sadism he faced. He recalled praying for the torture to stop and telling himself every day that he had "survived another day in hell".

 
His public account is notable as he is one of the first male Israeli hostages to publicly allege sexual assault during captivity, shedding light on the systematic abuse faced by hostages.
#20
(11-16-2025, 08:00 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Hate is seldom the product of logic or critical thinking.

Sometimes .. yeah.
Othertimes ... I don't know.
What about the example I gave ... 
People who torture animals for fun.
I read about that online and immediately hated the person doing it.
I think that was a pretty logical reaction.
Although it's not the reaction that God (allegedly) wants.
According to Christianity we are called to heroic love.
I should have hated what was done and NOT the person doing it.



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