Different take on Charlie Kirk

[quintessentone]

And yet another different take on Charlie Kirk:

"On Sunday morning, Borror’s church was unexpectedly full as he prayed for victims of violence — not just Kirk’s family but “the families of the kids shot at a Colorado elementary school last week, the families in Ukraine, the Middle East and Sudan.” He believes his fellow pastors should be the ones lowering the temperature when it comes to the country’s divisiveness. “I pray that we can be vessels of mercy in a really graceless age.”
 In his view, the rush to beatify Kirk says more about America’s polarization than about Christianity. “He was a 31-year-old guy who still hopefully was going to evolve in his thinking,” Borror said in an interview.
 
To illustrate how views can shift over time, Borror pointed to his synagogue. After Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, one congregant demanded harsh action against Palestinians. Nearly two years later, that same person has become critical of the Netanyahu government’s conduct of the war and grieves the loss of innocent life in Gaza."

Christians split on Charlie Kirk’s martyrdom – The Forward

[SomeStupidName]

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Interesting connection.

[cherokeetroy]

“Go after the widow” is a nice touch.

If you can see where I made any derogatory remarks about Mrs. Kirk, please show it to me

Otherwise, you're welcome to refute or debunk the point that she was Ms Arizona in Trump's pageant in 2012

[SomeStupidName]

I refuted your understanding of the conceal carry permit acceptance in other states, and I consider that not being able to have your gun within easy grasping distance to be non-accessibility. If the conceal carry laws go through then easy access to one's gun will be only a quick reach away, therefore, easy access. Perhaps you missed the context of our discussion.

Sure, I understand why you must bail even if you do not.

That is the flaw in your logic. You think the guns proximity has anything to do with the mental state of anyone who would wield it. The fact that states have laws against conceal carrier isn't gun control it's outright infringement of the second amendment. You are also not taking into account people who have been saved by a legally carrying citizens. Anyone still arguing that the gun is at fault for gun crime is clearly just pushing a total ban on gun ownership and using a false dichotomy argument to prop up their beliefs.

[quintessentone]

That is the flaw in your logic. You think the guns proximity has anything to do with the mental state of anyone who would wield it.

I didn't say that, I said allowing everyone to conceal carry everywhere gives everyone the gun carrier quick access to the gun should they decide using a gun is the way an issue needs to be solved, like in a road rage situation. Police have said they do not want citizens to use vigiliantism because police won't be able to determine who is the perp and who is not. 

So are you okay with 18-20 yr olds and those a little older being able to buy and own, and maybe carry wherever they want, and maybe small assault weapons that could be conceal carry?

The fact that states have laws against conceal carrier isn't gun control it's outright infringement of the second amendment.

6 out of 10  US adults disagree with you.

You are also not taking into account people who have been saved by a legally carrying citizens. Anyone still arguing that the gun is at fault for gun crime is clearly just pushing a total ban on gun ownership and using a false dichotomy argument to prop up their beliefs.

The push on bans seems to be only on assault type weapons, very young people buying and owning guns, and acceptance of nationwide conceal carry permits. You really need to worry because nobody is checking the mental health of anyone who tries to buy a gun, and from what I've read, red flag laws are ignored by some authorities and not applied by others.

[PorkChop96]

I refuted your understanding of the conceal carry permit acceptance in other states, and I consider that not being able to have your gun within easy grasping distance to be non-accessibility. If the conceal carry laws go through then easy access to one's gun will be only a quick reach away, therefore, easy access. Perhaps you missed the context of our discussion.

Sure, I understand why you must bail even if you do not.

You can't even comprehend the basics of what we are discussing, let alone the reason for anything I do. 


Feel free to make up whatever you need to in your own mind to make yourself feel better but don't delude yourself to believing you understand anything about me.

[quintessentone]

You can't even comprehend the basics of what we are discussing, let alone the reason for anything I do. 


Feel free to make up whatever you need to in your own mind to make yourself feel better but don't delude yourself to believing you understand anything about me.

Well you just don't understand what my meaning is, so there is no point in discussing anything further.

[IAMTAT]

Great news! The first guy they cuffed at the rally who yelled that he was the shooter...turned out to be a pedo!! 

"George Zinn, the first suspect detained after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, was hit with four counts related to child porn charges.
Zinn was immediately cuffed and taken into custody after TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk was assassinated at the “American Comeback Tour” event at Utah Valley University last Wednesday.
 
According to reports, George Zinn falsely told police he shot Charlie Kirk. He was charged with obstruction of justice.
Zinn was taken to a local hospital after complaining about chest pains, and that is when law enforcement went through his phone.
 
Authorities discovered the child porn on Zinn’s phone. Zinn told law enforcement that he gets “sexually aroused” by child sex abuse images."

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09...-shooting/

[quintessentone]

Great news! The first guy they cuffed at the rally who yelled that he was the shooter...turned out to be a pedo!! 

"George Zinn, the first suspect detained after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, was hit with four counts related to child porn charges.
Zinn was immediately cuffed and taken into custody after TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk was assassinated at the “American Comeback Tour” event at Utah Valley University last Wednesday.
 
According to reports, George Zinn falsely told police he shot Charlie Kirk. He was charged with obstruction of justice.
Zinn was taken to a local hospital after complaining about chest pains, and that is when law enforcement went through his phone.
 
Authorities discovered the child porn on Zinn’s phone. Zinn told law enforcement that he gets “sexually aroused” by child sex abuse images.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09...-shooting/

Is the FBI giving their investigative findings to thegatewaypundit or any news agencies at all?

[IAMTAT]

Is the FBI giving their investigative findings to thegatewaypundit or any news agencies at all?

Since the Leftist source TMZ had the story first...everyone has it now.

https://www.tmz.com/2025/09/16/charlie-k...tification