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(09-16-2025, 12:42 PM)quintessentone Wrote: "House Republicans push nationwide concealed carry as Trump says Second Amendment has no bordersRep. Richard Hudson defends nationwide concealed carry bill as 'common sense' on 'America Reports'"
Concealed Carry Reciprocity: GOP, Trump push bill to strengthen 2nd Amendment | Fox News
"House Republicans are renewing efforts to expand concealed carry rights across state lines with a bill known as the Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act. The legislation would require states to recognize concealed carry permits issued by other states, much like they recognize out-of-state driver's licenses."
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Now see why 6 out of 10 U.S. adults want stricter gun laws? That is an example of easier access.
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No I don't see how you think forcing states to acknowledge concealed carry as relaxing gun laws. It also doesn't support any claim to any statistical data citing the stances of any aged citizens.
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09-16-2025, 01:18 PM
This post was last modified: 09-16-2025, 01:19 PM by quintessentone. 
(09-16-2025, 12:55 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: Do you not understand what reciprocity means?
That is not giving anyone access to firearms, it is stating that people who already own firearms and have a license to carry them can carry them in any state.
They are giving people who already own firearms more freedom of access to their guns in any state. More access!
So I ask again, where is the right giving "lunatics" easier access to firearms?
We are now discussing giving the rights for 'emotionally immature' easier access to firearms and I provided the source where they want to lower the guy guying/owning age. As I said twice already, the lunatics part is complex, and not requiring people's doctors to sign a form that their patient is of sound mind to be able to buy and own a gun. More access to those that are younger and have a higher percentage of being 'emotionally immature' and not requiring doctors to okay their patients as not having any tendencies for schizophrenic, paranoid, violent thoughts without being on a mind altering medication for a medical disorder/illness. More access again!
Hard a find a source to show into the mind of a retard......
Most people, that I have ever heard talk about it, that want stricter gun laws are parroting laws that are already in existence. Hence the comment of they don't even understand current gun laws.
It's convenient for you to believe that, but advocates for stricter gun laws will be on top of this from every angle. 6 out of 10. Watch those numbers rise if they allow 18 year olds to buy and own a gun.
Tell me, if I live in Illinois and travel to Ohio, can I legally buy an AR15 with a 30 round magazine and transport it back to Illinois?
Ask those 6 out of 10 US adults that question and see what their responses are.
BTW where are your sources? All in your head as usual.
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(09-16-2025, 01:18 PM)cherokeetroy Wrote: [Image: https://i.imgur.com/jeR5Q7J.jpeg]
“Go after the widow” is a nice touch.
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09-16-2025, 01:34 PM
This post was last modified: 09-16-2025, 01:48 PM by PorkChop96. 
(09-16-2025, 01:18 PM)quintessentone Wrote: They are giving people who already own firearms more freedom of access to their guns in any state. More access!
They can already access their own firearms at any point, they OWN them. More guns will not be sold or available to anyone that is unfit, or not legal to possess, under that push.
So again, how will these "lunatics" have easier/more access to firearms?
Quote:We are now discussing giving the rights for 'emotionally immature' easier access to firearms and I provided the source where they want to lower the guy guying/owning age.
Up until the last 10-20 years or so, the age to buy a firearm was almost always 18, across the board. 18 year old's cans till buy firearms now, under current age restrictions, just not a handgun.
Quote:Ask those 6 out of 10 US adults that question and see what their responses are.
BTW where are your sources? All in your head as usual.
I'm asking you, you seem to act like you know everything so go ahead and answer the question. We all know you can't
If you were a US resident, which thank the fucking lord you are not, you would know these facts to be true. You choose to ignore them because they don't help your bias towards guns. But, again, hard a find a source that show into the mind of a retard......
And just as a side note, your lack of understanding of the word reciprocity and how it works, is exactly what I am talking about when I say people don't understand the current laws that we have.
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09-16-2025, 02:06 PM
This post was last modified: 09-16-2025, 02:10 PM by quintessentone. 
(09-16-2025, 01:34 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: They can already access their own firearms at any point, they OWN them. More guns will not be sold or available to anyone that is unfit, or not legal to possess, under that push.
No they can't, they won't have access to their guns because some states do not accept their conceal carry permits from another state.
"States recognize concealed carry permits differently, and this recognition varies by state. Here are some key points:
So again, how will these "lunatics" have easier/more access to firearms?
So again, 'emotionally immature' young people will have more access to firearms if the Republican's push for 18, 19, and 20 years olds will get the right to guy and own guns. The lunatics who are unmedicated slip through the cracks because nobody is requiring doctors to give everyone a clean bill of mental health by performing specific questioning to detect potential red flags.
Up until the last 10-20 years or so, the age to buy a firearm was almost always 18, across the board. 18 year old's cans till buy firearms now, under current age restrictions, just not a handgun.
If that's true, why are Republicans trying to push for 18-20 years olds to be able to guy and own guns? You don't make any sense. Provide a source for that claim or are you saying the 18-20 yr olds will be able to by an assault weapon?
I'm asking you, you seem to act like you know everything so go ahead and answer the question. We all know you can't
I only know what is in the news about what Republicans are trying to push as new law.
If you were a US resident, which thank the fucking lord you are not, you would know these facts to be true. You choose to ignore them because they don't help your bias towards guns. But, again, hard a find a source that show into the mind of a retard......
I am posting what Americans who want stricter gun laws and some who want gun bans as well - that is 6 out of 10 US adults.
Retard is not a proper definition of anything.
And just as a side note, your lack of understanding of the word reciprocity and how it works, is exactly what I am talking about when I say people don't understand the current laws that we have. 
Oh I got it right and I reposted the understanding of it above, so read it again and get it right.
The Americans, the 6 out of 10, understand something more important, how the lack of stricter gun laws relates to more gun violence in the hands of those that slip through the cracks.
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(09-16-2025, 02:06 PM)quintessentone Wrote:
I am done playing these bullshit cat and mouse games with you.
You know the facts, you are ignoring them to try and make a case that isn't there.
I am so thankful you are not a US citizen that gets to vote on matters like this. I would hate to have people this ignorant, even though I already have to deal with that, voting to keep/take away my rights.
God help you
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(09-16-2025, 02:11 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: I am done playing these bullshit cat and mouse games with you.
You know the facts, you are ignoring them to try and make a case that isn't there.
I am so thankful you are not a US citizen that gets to vote on matters like this. I would hate to have people this ignorant, even though I already have to deal with that, voting to keep/take away my rights.
God help you
Typical bailing out by you when you can't refute in a discussion.
Insults as usual.
I will pray for you to see the light.
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(09-16-2025, 02:13 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Typical bailing out by you when you can't refute in a discussion.
Insults as usual.
I will pray for you to see the light.
I have given you everything you needed to see the truth but you ignore it as usual. You can't understand simple laws but are trying to justify making up more, you are the epitome of being a dem. (and frankly I don't care if you are one or not, if it walks like a duck)
I have better things to do with my time than to lead the blind to a place they don't wish to go.
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(09-16-2025, 02:18 PM)PorkChop96 Wrote: I have given you everything you needed to see the truth but you ignore it as usual. You can't understand simple laws but are trying to justify making up more, you are the epitome of being a dem. (and frankly I don't care if you are one or not, if it walks like a duck)
I have better things to do with my time than to lead the blind to a place they don't wish to go.
I refuted your understanding of the conceal carry permit acceptance in other states, and I consider that not being able to have your gun within easy grasping distance to be non-accessibility. If the conceal carry laws go through then easy access to one's gun will be only a quick reach away, therefore, easy access. Perhaps you missed the context of our discussion.
Sure, I understand why you must bail even if you do not.
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