Skinny Bob Likely to be a HOAX

[DanZarfati]

Im with DanZarfati on this one. I have always seen a very striking resemblance between Skinny BoB and the work of Chris Cunningham- especially his Rubber Johnny piece. I also agree that this has likely been done with live actors and altered in After Effects with mesh warp. Probably very little actual  CGI. At the time this came out CGI was not as robust as it is today and the few programs that were around were pretty expensive which would make them out of reach for most peop!e. There were a few.artists like Cunningham really pushing the boundaries of what After Effects could do and creating this surreal edgy.stuff. 

As.for this being part of a greater disinformation campaign, I doubt it. This is art. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if it was Cunningham s work but he's not the only one who was doing this kind of thing. Its.good stuff and the anonymity and lore the artist took the time to create around it just adds to its value.

Velvet, does this video, SKinny Bob's pass you great vibes? To me it is an awful vibe, horrific. Chris Works pass me an incredibly good vibe. Skinny bob's is so constrained, so sort of evil. That is why I have a lot of qualms about this, this doesn't look like free art work. 
I have the same vibes and gut feeling when watching the autopsy. This is also fake cheap work, it was actually kind of expensive to make, I see a thread, I see consistency.

[Kwaka]

Hi Kwaka, you believe the work is legit. I don't think it is. Have you seen my video?

I have seen your video, it is a great presentation going through many of the issues around these released videos.

I am not in a position to say with certainty what videos are legitimate and what ones are not. In the cultural context of when these videos where released, they do align with many other reports and documentation about the gray ET influence on Earth.

I do expect there are a lot of videos and other evidence buried deep in National Security. For anyone deep in this infrastructure would be risking their life in releasing it, to know that it will just get covered up again. How long did it take the government to slap a information blackout on Roswell?

How Youtube has not deleted these videos does add weight to them not being legitimate. Maybe the videos you question are a hoax, but when it comes to what inspired them does hold a lot more legitimacy. Done in a way that keeps everyone safe from National Security blowback while give the public a heads up to the nature of life.

[DanZarfati]

I have seen your video, it is a great presentation going through many of the issues around these released videos.

I am not in a position to say with certainty what videos are legitimate and what ones are not. In the cultural context of when these videos where released, they do align with many other reports and documentation about the gray ET influence on Earth.

I do expect there are a lot of videos and other evidence buried deep in National Security. For anyone deep in this infrastructure would be risking their life in releasing it, to know that it will just get covered up again. How long did it take the government to slap a information blackout on Roswell?

How Youtube has not deleted these videos does add weight to them not being legitimate. Maybe the videos you question are a hoax, but when it comes to what inspired them does hold a lot more legitimacy. Done in a way that keeps everyone safe from National Security blowback while give the public a heads up to the nature of life.

"I have seen your video, it is a great presentation going through many of the issues around these released videos."
Thanks, it took me 9 days in a roll to do it, despite the fact that wasn't "that" difficult. But one thing here and there, and you don't believe how this small corrections take. lol.

"I am not in a position to say with certainty what videos are legitimate and what ones are not. In the cultural context of when these videos where released, they do align with many other reports and documentation about the gray ET influence on Earth." 
Yeah, but you don't get to film these things. As I mentioned, a lot of what was proposed was the "UFO folklore" so prominent in ATS. True, I do believe that I have better idea than the average ufologists which are the cases that are bonafied from the ones that are not, I do that observing the patterns. So Roswell, Varginha, and  Kecksburg are true for instance. Shag Harbor, true. And so forth. But so many other cases untrue. Skinny Bob middle video, based in the Muroc folklore are shooting out of the way. The language applied, too much MJ 12, that we know now that is a very good and so forth. It looked like a film (I am talking about the 4 videos) that wanted to hook the ATS sort of public, plus others. The language at that period was very advanced, but looking with attention we see that things don't really match. See my point? 


"I do expect there are a lot of videos and other evidence buried deep in National Security. For anyone deep in this infrastructure would be risking their life in releasing it, to know that it will just get covered up again. How long did it take the government to slap a information blackout on Roswell?" Man, IMO, ppl who release this stuff dies. End of the story. If learn one thing or 2 about intelligence services, is that parts of them are completely rogue, and if you cross some lines you dead. No questions asked. And that is one of my main points against the other Bob. You know who I mean. 

"How Youtube has not deleted these videos does add weight to them not being legitimate."
They don't care, is not their business. 

"Maybe the videos you question are a hoax, but when it comes to what inspired them does hold a lot more legitimacy. Done in a way that keeps everyone safe from National Security blowback while give the public a heads up to the nature of life." You want to believe, or you feel inclined to believe that what is behind this video, has actually a good intention to shed light about UFOs. 
My point is entirelly different. I am advocating tha since 1973 (at least, more likely since 69) the intelligences (CIA and all the rest) knew that the phenomenon was here to stay, and the maximum they could do was to stir the pot and misdirect ppl, do damage control. So they went against independent research, and founded a culture of leaks and whistleblowers, so much so you don't hear more about independent researchers, or independent cases, there is always someone connected to the  establishment to tell us what is and what is not. That is how things have been tied up.

[Kwaka]

the intelligences (CIA and all the rest) knew that the phenomenon was here to stay, and the maximum they could do was to stir the pot and misdirect ppl, do damage control. 

I do agree with this, lot of people have been pressured to fuzzy the facts, still goes on today. There is a mountain of evidence that something is going on. Getting into the details goes down some dark places, not all of it with such a diverse range of anomalies.

As for why the information blockage has stood for so long implies some bad news on the other side. As the push for disclosure continues to grow. perhaps a more civil. open. trustworthy form of governance will emerge as a clearer picture of our place in the universe does emerge?

[ARM1968]

They don’t want us to know the truth, because the truth will set us free and end the horrific control we have been under for millennia.  That’s the real reason they’re scared. Their power, control and wealth will all become meaningless. 

as for Skinny Bob. I don’t think it’s CGi. Certainly not Ai, too early. It gives me a weird feeling, like it’s real. Possibly a dummy / but some of the subtle skin and vein movements would make it state of the art and probably beyond.

[xconvoyx]

TPTB: Put it out there and leave it.  They will  do all kinds of mental gymnastics and claim it's fake and a hoax anyway.

"bodies of children wearing impressive masks"
LOL, if those were children...they sure are pretty malnourished.

[DanZarfati]

They don’t want us to know the truth, because the truth will set us free and end the horrific control we have been under for millennia.  That’s the real reason they’re scared. Their power, control and wealth will all become meaningless. 

as for Skinny Bob. I don’t think it’s CGi. Certainly not Ai, too early. It gives me a weird feeling, like it’s real. Possibly a dummy / but some of the subtle skin and vein movements would make it state of the art and probably beyond.

That is why I thought it is prostheitics make up, you can still see the skin. Then you have to apply mesh warp. You have to face map the movement. It is an expensive work as I see it. So if it is the way I see, who paid for it? That is my point.

[DanZarfati]

TPTB: Put it out there and leave it.  They will  do all kinds of mental gymnastics and claim it's fake and a hoax anyway.

"bodies of children wearing impressive masks"
LOL, if those were children...they sure are pretty malnourished.

Again, for that I believe you can apply mesh warp, go watch video. It can distort the bodies.