Demonic Avatars

[Sirius]

This was very interesting

Worms [Image: https://denyignorance.com//images/addsmi...thulhu.gif]
In the Gemara, the shamir (Biblical Hebrew: שָׁמִיר, romanized: šāmir) is a worm or a substance that had the power to cut through or disintegrate stone, iron and diamond.

The story changes between texts of what was used to cut the stones. It's interesting with context of other ancient sites. Worms to cut stone with, what could that mean? Apparently received from a demon

[quintessentone]

This was very interesting

The story changes between texts of what was used to cut the stones. It's interesting with context of other ancient sites. Worms to cut stone with, what could that mean? Apparently received from a demon

Which is it? Worm or substance? It appears there is some confusion as to the translation. I would say substance because I read that a plant was used to melt rock.

"But the astonishing answer comes, unexpectedly, from distant Peru, where oral tradition says ever since the ‘ancients’ started to assemble the stones of their huge walls, they used the mysterious Pito, a plant that was described as a low creeping grass with red leaves."

Melting Stone With Plants: Was the Mythical 'Green Chisel' A Real Ancient Tool? | Ancient Origins

[Sirius]

Which is it? Worm or substance? It appears there is some confusion as to the translation. I would say substance because I read that a plant was used to melt rock.

"But the astonishing answer comes, unexpectedly, from distant Peru, where oral tradition says ever since the ‘ancients’ started to assemble the stones of their huge walls, they used the mysterious Pito, a plant that was described as a low creeping grass with red leaves."

Melting Stone With Plants: Was the Mythical 'Green Chisel' A Real Ancient Tool? | Ancient Origins

Allot of marks looks machined though, tooth marks, drill holes, some look like from circular blades or even excavated by something with teeth. Worms as a super hard string, or just describing the action of a saw.

I don't think the story of how the temple was built exits to just give a magical sounding parable

Melting stone...stone is a composite there are crystals "Granite is primarily composed of three minerals: quartz, feldspar, and mica" if we go the alchemy route it needs to cover all of the stones composition (whatever stones it was). After melting do they leave the slag and mix it back in? The cuts doesn't look chemical.

[Sirius]

Solomon's Temple, also known as the First Temple (Hebrew: בַּיִת רִאשׁוֹן‎, romanized: Bayyit Rīšōn, lit. 'First Temple'), was a biblical Temple in Jerusalem believed to have existed between the 10th and 6th centuries BCE. Its description is largely based on narratives in the Hebrew Bible, in which it was commissioned by biblical king Solomon before being destroyed during the Siege of Jerusalem by Nebuchadnezzar II of the Neo-Babylonian Empire in 587 BCE.[1] No excavations are allowed on the Temple Mount, and no positively identified remains of the destroyed temple have been found. Most modern scholars agree that the First Temple existed on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem by the time of the Babylonian siege, and there is significant debate among scholars over the date of its construction and the identity of its builder.

Maybe if they excavated they would find worms, just saying

[quintessentone]

Allot of marks looks machined though, tooth marks, drill holes, some look like from circular blades or even excavated by something with teeth. Worms as a super hard string, or just describing the action of a saw.

I don't think the story of how the temple was built exits to just give a magical sounding parable

Melting stone...stone is a composite there are crystals "Granite is primarily composed of three minerals: quartz, feldspar, and mica" if we go the alchemy route it needs to cover all of the stones composition (whatever stones it was). After melting do they leave the slag and mix it back in? The cuts doesn't look chemical.

Well I translated both the biblical Hebrew word and the Romanized word to get this result:





and -




Let's see, a thistle-type or thorny plant. 

"Generally sharp and prickly
Thistle spikes are generally sharp and prickly, making them difficult to remove. They serve as a defense mechanism against herbivores and can cause injury upon contact. The sharpness can vary depending on the specific thistle species, but they are commonly recognized for their spiny leaves and stems that can puncture skin and other surfaces"

17 Spiky Weeds With Thorns & Prickles [With Photos]

They did not elaborate on 'and other surfaces', so who knows?

[Sirius]

Well I translated both the biblical Hebrew word and the Romanized word to get this result:

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/hebrew.jpg]



and -

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/samir.jpg]


Let's see, a thistle-type or thorny plant. 

"Generally sharp and prickly
Thistle spikes are generally sharp and prickly, making them difficult to remove. They serve as a defense mechanism against herbivores and can cause injury upon contact. The sharpness can vary depending on the specific thistle species, but they are commonly recognized for their spiny leaves and stems that can puncture skin and other surfaces"

17 Spiky Weeds With Thorns & Prickles [With Photos]

They did not elaborate on 'and other surfaces', so who knows?

you can't just translate word to word, I usually post whole paragraphs on words...

[quintessentone]

you can't just translate word to word, I usually post whole paragraphs on words...

Okay, then why don't you translate the whole paragraph using the biblical Hebrew translator and let me know if the word still comes up as 'thistle'.

[Sirius]

Okay, then why don't you translate the whole paragraph using the biblical Hebrew translator and let me know if the word still comes up as 'thistle'.

Don't stress about it, there is some quotes I lost, already tried looking for them. I don't really feel strongly about the subject, just thought I would post it since it came up. btw I'm not ignoring what you are saying, it's in my memory forever, just don't have anything to do with it at the moment. I appreciate the posts

[sahgwa]

This was very interesting

The story changes between texts of what was used to cut the stones. It's interesting with context of other ancient sites. Worms to cut stone with, what could that mean? Apparently received from a demon

I have a very good article in World Explorer magazine from some year past about the shamir.  I think the opinion of the author was that it was some kind of radioactive material, to heat and make the stone weak.  The side effects sounded like radiation poisoning if used incorrectly. 


And never thought anyone would try to use AI to devise rituals. Beyond a stupid idea. wowzers!
The point is to align and connect all of your energy bodies to various forces and the Universe(s). AI is by definition dead and insane (and not AI) and would ipso facto be beyond impotent in this regard, if not dangerous.

[sahgwa]

Well I translated both the biblical Hebrew word and the Romanized word to get this result:

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/hebrew.jpg]



and -

[Image: https://denyignorance.com/uploader/images/samir.jpg]


Let's see, a thistle-type or thorny plant. 

"Generally sharp and prickly
Thistle spikes are generally sharp and prickly, making them difficult to remove. They serve as a defense mechanism against herbivores and can cause injury upon contact. The sharpness can vary depending on the specific thistle species, but they are commonly recognized for their spiny leaves and stems that can puncture skin and other surfaces"

17 Spiky Weeds With Thorns & Prickles [With Photos]

They did not elaborate on 'and other surfaces', so who knows?

interestingly if you use a samekh instead of a shin, which in my very basic Hebrew may be samir instead of shamir, you get 'nail' (i also left out the yod)
םמר