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(05-27-2025, 01:56 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: It's not deaf ears, Some of us know people that developed myocarditis with 72 hours of getting the vaccine. Your not going to tell me I didn't witness something that I certainly did on 2 occasions having never had anyone I know suffer from myocarditis before the covid or the vaccine existed. I would humor the idea it could be the point of this bio-weapon and that the vaccine inadvertently passed this feature through to the 2% that were said to be at risk for a sever reaction to covid.
Do you know them? Or perhaps know 'of' them from an online post? What are the names of their sister or brother? What is their birthday?
Honestly, the number of cases of myocarditis when compared to the populations they live among is vanishingly small, and the number of cases are reducing in number, too. Probably to do with there being better antiviral meds these days.
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(05-27-2025, 01:56 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: It's not deaf ears, Some of us know people that developed myocarditis with 72 hours of getting the vaccine. Your not going to tell me I didn't witness something that I certainly did on 2 occasions having never had anyone I know suffer from myocarditis before the covid or the vaccine existed. I would humor the idea it could be the point of this bio-weapon and that the vaccine inadvertently passed this feature through to the 2% that were said to be at risk for a sever reaction to covid.
You've missed my point. I am not saying people won't get myocarditis if they have a pre-existing condition which their doctor should have informed them of...I am saying the warning should have context included and not spread fear and disinformation. The way you telling it, is that the people you knew who developed myocarditis had no pre-existing conditons or cormorbidity that would facilitate the development of myocarditis. And that goes for any other severe reactions from any type of vaccination. As it stands now, myocarditis is widely accepted as having extremely rare occurrences and that should be put out on the warning so people can make well informed decisions for themselves along with their doctor's advisement.
There is a U.S. government hearing going on right now discussing this very topic. It appears those that will financially benefit from selling certain drugs and supplements are cherry-picking science so that it leans in their favour.
There are more clinical trials going on right now being conducted by the right medical experts. Let's see where that goes.
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(05-28-2025, 01:24 AM)chr0naut Wrote: Do you know them? Or perhaps know 'of' them from an online post? What are the names of their sister or brother? What is their birthday?
Honestly, the number of cases of myocarditis when compared to the populations they live among is vanishingly small, and the number of cases are reducing in number, too. Probably to do with there being better antiviral meds these days.
yeah, I do know them and no I will not call out names or places and medical conditions that's not happening. I had to get one as well but I went with the JnJ shot, actually drove around a couple towns until I found a place that had it.
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05-28-2025, 10:37 AM
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(05-28-2025, 10:22 AM)quintessentone Wrote: You've missed my point. I am not saying people won't get myocarditis if they have a pre-existing condition which their doctor should have informed them of...I am saying the warning should have context included and not spread fear and disinformation. The way you telling it, is that the people you knew who developed myocarditis had no pre-existing conditons or cormorbidity that would facilitate the development of myocarditis. And that goes for any other severe reactions from any type of vaccination. As it stands now, myocarditis is widely accepted as having extremely rare occurrences and that should be put out on the warning so people can make well informed decisions for themselves along with their doctor's advisement.
There is a U.S. government hearing going on right now discussing this very topic. It appears those that will financially benefit from selling certain drugs and supplements are cherry-picking science so that it leans in their favour.
There are more clinical trials going on right now being conducted by the right medical experts. Let's see where that goes. I like how you state so people can make informed decision for themselves because that wasn't the option at the time. I was told to take an experimental drug with insufficient clinical trials or starve. Which for me would constitute making a decision under duress which no court would uphold as a true decision, however the first thing I'm told is well they gave you a choice.
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05-28-2025, 10:50 AM
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Yes, now they're requiring warnings with the Covid19 vaccines which IIRC, the original vaccines came with zero information to that regard. Blank papers it was.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is requiring manufacturers of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) to expand warning labels regarding the risk of myocarditis and pericarditis, particularly in certain age groups.
Key Points:- Expanded Warnings: The FDA is mandating that vaccine labels broaden the warning about myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart).
- Age Groups: The expanded warning will likely target young men, particularly those between the ages of 16 and 25.
- Rare but Possible: While research indicates that myocarditis and pericarditis after vaccination are rare, it's essential to be aware of the potential risk, according to the CDC.
Of course it's "rare" to suffer these effects according to the CDC but we all know, government agencies never tell the truth, and absolutely, never the whole truth.
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(05-28-2025, 10:29 AM)SomeStupidName Wrote: yeah, I do know them and no I will not call out names or places and medical conditions that's not happening. I had to get one as well but I went with the JnJ shot, actually drove around a couple towns until I found a place that had it.
The J&J immunization had a higher ratio of cardiac and circulatory related adverse events, and Guillain-Barré syndrome adverse events than any of the mRNA immunizations.
The J&J immunization was voluntarily withdrawn from supply by J&J in February 2022, probably due to concerns about adverse events, and this was despite the company facing many breaches of contract for supply of purchased but undelivered doses.
Additionally, the J&J immunization used the human foetal cell line Per.C6 in its development and manufacture. which is an ethical issue for many.
Janssen COVID-19 vaccine - Wikipedia
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05-28-2025, 08:23 PM
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Yes I do remember that, it mostly affected women as I recall, so I decided to roll the dice on that one as opposed to the other one that was affecting mens hearts. I had already survived covid even got pneumonia turned blue and had hallucinations the ER doctor prescribed me 5 dexamethadon I think it's called and it knocked the whole thing out. Vaccines weren't available for just anyone when I got the plague. Oh and it messed up my taste and smell and the vaccine did mostly fix that. I'm not anti-vaccine I just don't like being told that I was given a real choice because I would have declined if it wasn't going to cost me everything I worked so hard to achieve in life.
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I will just pop his in this forum as well, some interesting stats on the excess death levels as they relate to 2025 the morbidity rate must be deafening as it is accumulative. and most likely ten times higher than the deaths. Excess deaths 2025 - YouTube
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(05-27-2025, 01:56 PM)SomeStupidName Wrote: It's not deaf ears, Some of us know people that developed myocarditis with 72 hours of getting the vaccine. Your not going to tell me I didn't witness something that I certainly did on 2 occasions having never had anyone I know suffer from myocarditis before the covid or the vaccine existed. I would humor the idea it could be the point of this bio-weapon and that the vaccine inadvertently passed this feature through to the 2% that were said to be at risk for a sever reaction to covid.
Most everyone I know who got vaccinated was pressured too. At my job, we just started repping a firm we had been wanting to work with forever. Two of my co-workers who regularly visited the home office were told they needed to be vaccinated, and both regret it now.
Hell, 5-10 years earlier,r I would have gotten the vaxx just to keep on working, no question, but my situation was where I didn't have to.
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05-28-2025, 09:17 PM
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Did anyone else get a letter from their employer and told to present if stopped or if they put up check points? My wife got one and one of my brother in law got one too. They really thought they were going to lock us all completely down like we saw in other countries.
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