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Corona Virus Update 8
#21
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#22
It appears there is more vagueness and confusion being caused by Kennedy's department.

"The possibility that Covid shots would become unavailable for kids alarmed pediatricians. “I see children admitted to the hospital with Covid and they’re not all high-risk children — including those who go to intensive care units,” said James Campbell, a professor of pediatrics and infectious diseases specialist at the University of Maryland. “If we have safe and effective vaccines that prevent illness, we think they should be available.” 
 Campbell, who is also vice chair of the committee on infectious diseases at the American Academy of Pediatrics, said he took offense at the tone and title of the commentary — “An Evidence-Based Approach to Covid-19 Vaccination” — saying it suggested “everyone who has been working on this for five years hasn’t been thinking it through.” 

"Decisions on vaccines, he said, should be decided by working groups that sift through the evidence and debate. “It should not be that two people make the decision,” he said, referring to Makary and Vinay Prasad, who heads the FDA Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, which evaluates vaccine safety."

"People with long Covid said evidence showing that vaccination and boosters reduce the risk of long-lasting post-Covid symptoms were ignored by the FDA leaders. The condition was not mentioned in the NEJM commentary nor during the town hall."

"But Tim Caulfield, a professor of health law and science policy at the University of Alberta and an outspoken critic of misinformation, pushed back on such thinking. “The logic seems twisted,” he said. “Politically fueled misinformation created distrust, so now we are going to push a vaccine policy that seems to legitimize that distrust? How does that help?” 

https://www.statnews.com/2025/05/20/fda-...atricians/

Bravo, Tim Caulfield...the voice of reason.
"The only journey is the one within."
#23
(05-21-2025, 08:31 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It appears there is more vagueness and confusion being caused by Kennedy's department.

Kennedy called it when going up against the like of Bernie Sanders when going for the job. Bernie knows the data does not add up on vaccination policy. The dollars do for now so don't want to rock that boat. I am more concerned about the next generation that my bank account, this # is nuts.

Kennedy has made it clear he wants the data. When you do look at it, has been a dangerous job for a long time. Career and life destroying for those that do compile the data. The corporate can run, but cannot hide in how this data builds up and affects as all over time.

There is no vagueness or confusion from Kennedy, it is all about the data. What is vague and confusing is what the deep state, depopulation shills are going to do about it.
#24
(05-21-2025, 10:35 PM)quintessentone Wrote: More confusion and misinformation

My first red pill was like that for a while. Knew enough that something was not right, but did not know enough about what it was. Stuck in an information quagmire surrounded by fractured trust. Just have to keep moving, keep your brain engaged and question everything. When you do eventually come across something solid, it helps in navigating a way out of the mess.

For the average medical professional in today's political environment, the topic of vaccination hesitancy is a tender one. Received a similar kind of treatment as the media got after 9/11 with reporters questioning the official story. Has built cultural reinforcement to maintain the status quo. 

A one size fits all, no questions asked approach to vaccinations does make it easier for the medical community to administer. But what is the real toll taken on the overall health with the expanding childhood vaccination schedule? Just how much of a real difference does it make to chronic conditions like autism and others. 10%, 50%, 90%?

Until the data comes out, it is a confusing time. With the trends from those that tried to get the data out, it is a troubling situation.
#25
(05-22-2025, 02:00 AM)Kwaka Wrote: My first red pill was like that for a while. Knew enough that something was not right, but did not know enough about what it was. Stuck in an information quagmire surrounded by fractured trust. Just have to keep moving, keep your brain engaged and question everything. When you do eventually come across something solid, it helps in navigating a way out of the mess.

For the average medical professional in today's political environment, the topic of vaccination hesitancy is a tender one. Received a similar kind of treatment as the media got after 9/11 with reporters questioning the official story. Has built cultural reinforcement to maintain the status quo. 

A one size fits all, no questions asked approach to vaccinations does make it easier for the medical community to administer. But what is the real toll taken on the overall health with the expanding childhood vaccination schedule? Just how much of a real difference does it make to chronic conditions like autism and others. 10%, 50%, 90%?

Until the data comes out, it is a confusing time. With the trends from those that tried to get the data out, it is a troubling situation.

Where is all that 'government' money that the Trump administration poured into COVID-19?

Big pharma didn't seem to get it:

Moderna (MRNA) Performance

Pfizer (PFE) Performance (note: click on 5 year zoom)

US citizens also didn't receive as much in support from the money that they contributed to, in the first place. For instance, the three 'Economic Impact' payments totalled $814 billion, in 476 million payments. This means that each payment averaged to around $570.00 (= $814,000,000,000 divided by 476,000,000 divided by 3) - and 300 million citizens times three payments also does not equal 476 million payments! The numbers there don't seem quite right.

There were additional tens of billions put into developing new vaccines against COVID-19 (Operation Warp-Speed), by the CARES Act after there were already several vaccines and monoclonal treatments (e.g, Paxlovid), which were already being rolled-out, and that required no further development. Did anyone give back any of the money for research that was already over?

Basically, there was some sort of funny-money happening, with lots of public money having gone astray during the administration, into who-knows-where?

It's like the tariffs, where China, and Chinese businesses, aren't the ones who are going to pay, and the money collected is all going to go to the government, and not to the people, but the average citizen is the ones who pay extra for nearly everything. It's another Trump government gouge of normal citizens.
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#26
May 21st Senator Ron Johnson - testimony about Covid-19 Vaccine Injuries and Death and reproductive issues-

https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/covid-vacc...-effective

The train is coming off the tracks. They are losing control of the narrative...

https://nypost.com/2025/05/21/us-news/bi...t-alleges/

Now the FDA is requiring that warnings are on the labels for the risk of Myocarditis.

https://www.biospace.com/fda/fda-asks-pf...9-vaccines

May 26, 2021 Janet Woodcock Acting FDA Commissioner opposed Rochelle Walensky from sending out an alert about the myocarditis risk in the established fashion. Instead the warning appeared on the FDA website May 28, 2021.
I'm sure that everyone would have looked there first.
Finally on June 25th the FDA updated the labels.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/health/co...end_recirc
#27
(05-22-2025, 02:54 PM)Thoughtful3 Wrote: May 21st Senator Ron Johnson - testimony about Covid-19 Vaccine Injuries and Death and reproductive issues-

https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/covid-vacc...-effective

The train is coming off the tracks. They are losing control of the narrative...

https://nypost.com/2025/05/21/us-news/bi...t-alleges/

Now the FDA is requiring that warnings are on the labels for the risk of Myocarditis.

https://www.biospace.com/fda/fda-asks-pf...9-vaccines

May 26, 2021 Janet Woodcock Acting FDA Commissioner opposed Rochelle Walensky from sending out an alert about the myocarditis risk in the established fashion. Instead the warning appeared on the FDA website May 28, 2021.
I'm sure that everyone would have looked there first.
Finally on June 25th the FDA updated the labels.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/health/co...end_recirc

It's not the government that should be warning people of side effects, it's people's doctors. Their doctors are the medical experts that should make that call.

Across the board warnings without context just spreads more fear and confusion.
"The only journey is the one within."
#28
(05-23-2025, 08:01 AM)quintessentone Wrote: It's not the government that should be warning people of side effects, it's people's doctors. Their doctors are the medical experts that should make that call.

How can a doctor do that while the medical registration boards have a vaccination hesitation policy? Under government direction, discourse on the harms of vaccinations has been made taboo, if you want to keep your job. How did it go for Andrew Wakefield when he saw a problem?

Thankfully we are at a time with someone like RFK in the top health job. Anthony Fauci was on a mission to destroy any science on this topic. How government sets the tone when people jobs are on the line is one important, slow moving cog in how this all works out.
#29
(05-22-2025, 05:58 AM)chr0naut Wrote: Where is all that 'government' money that the Trump administration poured into COVID-19?

The patient holders of the technology got a good pay day. With Remdesiver the only approved drug, lots went on that. Lot of ventilators made as well. Lot went on building the very cold infrastructure, -80 C. Hard to say where it all went. Government has not been candid on many of the government / corporate partnerships going on at the time.

The stock market price is a reflection of public option, not where all the profits end up in private hands. The stock price curve is a good reflection of how it went. The public bought the hype, lasted about a year. Not looking good in the test of time.
#30
(05-24-2025, 02:59 AM)Kwaka Wrote: How can a doctor do that while the medical registration boards have a vaccination hesitation policy? Under government direction, discourse on the harms of vaccinations has been made taboo, if you want to keep your job. How did it go for Andrew Wakefield when he saw a problem?

Thankfully we are at a time with someone like RFK in the top health job. Anthony Fauci was on a mission to destroy any science on this topic. How government sets the tone when people jobs are on the line is one important, slow moving cog in how this all works out.

My main point was about the broad stroke of the brush warning about myocarditis without adding context and advising people to consult with a medical professional who knows the answers, unlike Kennedy who is unqualified to give out medical advice. It just spreads more fear and disinformation.
"The only journey is the one within."



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