Gerrymander based on ideology instead of race

[Harte]

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No, a thing is a thing? Really?
{/sarcasm}

Thank you for that gem.




You seem to have differing ideas as to what I do, in regard to the definition of "due process", so, I looked up a dictionary definition:


You see, when the US Constitution says how everyone is supposed to do things, it is defining the procedure of specific processes and is compliant with both the above written definitions of "due process".

When the US Constitution says, for instance, that Congress has the exclusive power to raise revenue, impose tariffs and authorize Federal spending, that is due process.

In that regard, the US Constitution is entirely "due process", as is the statute (legislature) that underlies it. The US Constitution is legislature, too, just like the statute (legislature) that underlies the it.

The US Constitution is supposed to be the supreme law above other US laws. The whole body of law is legislature, and the whole body of law is also due process.


The US Supreme Court frequently strikes down specific state immigration laws and has blocked or altered how the executive branch enforces certain immigration policies.

Immigration law and the Supreme Court

* Limits on Indefinite Detention (Zadvydas v. Davis): SCOTUS ruled that ICE cannot detain noncitizens indefinitely after a final removal order. The Court established a presumptively reasonable six-month limit, after which the government must release the individual if there is no significant likelihood of removal in the foreseeable future.

* Courthouse Arrest Protections (State & Local Orders): While not direct SCOTUS rulings, federal and state courts (such as recent actions in New York City) have blocked ICE from making targeted, warrantless arrests inside and immediately around immigration courthouses, as this interferes with due process and access to the courts.

The worst Supreme Court case you’ve never heard of, and what it tells us about Trump’s immigration enforcement - SCOTUSblog

Congress has defined what legal due process is.
There have been no violations of due process that weren't rectified by courts.
What I've stated in this thread is nothing but the facts of this matter.

I suggest you read the law yourself, which has been upheld by SCOTUS as constitutional several times, rather than taking pot shots for social credit.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW...ubl208.pdf

Harte

[chr0naut]

Congress has defined what legal due process is.
There have been no violations of due process that weren't rectified by courts.
What I've stated in this thread is nothing but the facts of this matter.

I suggest you read the law yourself, which has been upheld by SCOTUS as constitutional several times, rather than taking pot shots for social credit.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/PLAW...ubl208.pdf

Harte

I already have that .pdf and have read it, and I used it, and other official US statute, in formulating my responses to you in this thread.

[Harte]

I already have that .pdf and have read it, and I used it, and other official US statute, in formulating my responses to you in this thread.

So, you have seen that there have been no violations of due process that weren't rectified by courts.

Harte

[chr0naut]

So, you have seen that there have been no violations of due process that weren't rectified by courts.

Harte

Just the in last few weeks, Trump has violated due process several times.

* He has committed piracy of Venezuelan oil tankers, chasing them far into the nautical domains of foreign countries and International waters.
* He has attempted to overturn Constitutionally guaranteed birthright citizenship.
* He has attacked Iran without informing Congress.
* He has killed people in Venezuelan waters, alleging that they were drug smugglers, without due process.
* He has pardoned already convicted murderers and pedophiles.
* He has slowed and blocked access to evidence vital to ongoing Congressional investigations.
* He has signed off to continue the unconstitutional FISA process and has done so every 90 days.
* He has suggested that he might use war powers or the insurrection act to suspend the Constitution, so he can have additional terms and has continued to lie about electoral surety.

[Harte]

Just the in last few weeks, Trump has violated due process several times.

* He has committed piracy of Venezuelan oil tankers, chasing them far into the nautical domains of foreign countries and International waters.

Not true. Trump was fully within maritime law with those seizures, as well as blowing up drug runner boats.

* He has attempted to overturn Constitutionally guaranteed birthright citizenship.

False
The Supreme Court has never ruled on the meaning of "under the jurisdiction of" in the constitution
Trump's EO is no different than Biden's that concerned forgiving student loans, except it hasn't been found unconstitutional (yet) while Biden's WAS.
Trump's EO literally asks for Supreme Court clarification right there in the text of the EO.

* He has attacked Iran without informing Congress.

The President is not required to inform Congress before an attack.
Maybe ask Barack about that.

* He has killed people in Venezuelan waters, alleging that they were drug smugglers, without due process.

False
The designation as a foreign intelligence organization covers that, just like it did for Obama's drone wars and Bidens pitifully weak attacks.

* He has pardoned already convicted murderers and pedophiles.

In what way is a President excrcising his plenary pardon authority a violation of due process?
Even though I already told you, you have to pretend not to know what due process actually is, what the phrase means, before you can say something as dumb as that.

* He has slowed and blocked access to evidence vital to ongoing Congressional investigations.

You mean like the investigations that secretely, without their knowledge, spied on members of Congress in the House and Sentate under Biden?

He has signed off to continue the unconstitutional FISA process and has done so every 90 days.

The FISA was found to be constitutional by the Supreme Court. It has been renewed by every president since it came into existence.
This is getting ugly. Somehow I thought I was talking to someone that knew something, anything, about this.

* He has suggested that he might use war powers or the insurrection act to suspend the Constitution, so he can have additional terms and has continued to lie about electoral surety.

Neither the War Powers Act nor the Insurrection Act authorize any suspension of the constitution.
Good God.
You are more of an idiot that I had supposed.

Harte

[RazorV66]

Not true. Trump was fully within maritime law with those seizures, as well as blowing up drug runner boats.
False
The Supreme Court has never ruled on the meaning of "under the jurisdiction of" in the constitution
Trump's EO is no different than Biden's that concerned forgiving student loans, except it hasn't been found unconstitutional (yet) while Biden's WAS.
Trump's EO literally asks for Supreme Court clarification right there in the text of the EO.
The President is not required to inform Congress before an attack.
Maybe ask Barack about that.
False
The designation as a foreign intelligence organization covers that, just like it did for Obama's drone wars and Bidens pitifully weak attacks.
In what way is a President excrcising his plenary pardon authority a violation of due process?
Even though I already told you, you have to pretend not to know what due process actually is, what the phrase means, before you can say something as dumb as that.
You mean like the investigations that secretely, without their knowledge, spied on members of Congress in the House and Sentate under Biden?
The FISA was found to be constitutional by the Supreme Court. It has been renewed by every president since it came into existence.
This is getting ugly. Somehow I thought I was talking to someone that knew something, anything, about this.
Neither the War Powers Act nor the Insurrection Act authorize any suspension of the constitution.
Good God.
You are more of an idiot that I had supposed.

Harte

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He's just another TDS afflicted foreigner.

[govshill2]

Not true. Trump was fully within maritime law with those seizures, as well as blowing up drug runner boats.
False
The Supreme Court has never ruled on the meaning of "under the jurisdiction of" in the constitution
Trump's EO is no different than Biden's that concerned forgiving student loans, except it hasn't been found unconstitutional (yet) while Biden's WAS.
Trump's EO literally asks for Supreme Court clarification right there in the text of the EO.
The President is not required to inform Congress before an attack.
Maybe ask Barack about that.
False
The designation as a foreign intelligence organization covers that, just like it did for Obama's drone wars and Bidens pitifully weak attacks.
In what way is a President excrcising his plenary pardon authority a violation of due process?
Even though I already told you, you have to pretend not to know what due process actually is, what the phrase means, before you can say something as dumb as that.
You mean like the investigations that secretely, without their knowledge, spied on members of Congress in the House and Sentate under Biden?
The FISA was found to be constitutional by the Supreme Court. It has been renewed by every president since it came into existence.
This is getting ugly. Somehow I thought I was talking to someone that knew something, anything, about this.
Neither the War Powers Act nor the Insurrection Act authorize any suspension of the constitution.
Good God.
You are more of an idiot that I had supposed.

Harte

Good Clarifications!  Thank You!     

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