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(05-19-2026, 12:48 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Policies and programs changes via executive orders have as much weight as changing any law apparently. Semantics.
Keep me on ignore, please. This is tiresome having to explain facts to those who deny them
Sour grapes since page 1. No law was changed, and no executive order changed anything about the law.
You really don't know anything at all about it, but that doesn't keep you from pretending you do.
Harte
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(05-19-2026, 05:44 PM)chr0naut Wrote: The 'United States Department of Homeland Security' (DHS) was created in response to the 11 September 2001 attacks (Unlike the CIA and the FBI, it had authority to operate both inside and outside of US borders for the protection of the US against border spanning threats). It was initiated by the http://Homeland Security Act of 2002
With the creation of the DHS, the old 'Immigration and Naturalization Service' department (INS) was disbanded and a new 'United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement' (ICE) department was created under the authority of DHS.
'Due process' - Cornell Law School
Due Process Clause - Wikipedia
So, you can't show the definition of due process in the Constitution.
That's because the Constitution NEVER defines due process.
The Legislature defines due process.
The Legislature passed the law.
Due process is entirely context dependent. There are different "due processes" for different situations.
Harte
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(05-21-2026, 06:23 AM)andy06shake Wrote: Would that not violate Cuban sovereignty and international law?
The US is not a party to any international law agreement.
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05-21-2026, 03:00 PM
This post was last modified: 05-21-2026, 03:37 PM by quintessentone. 
(05-21-2026, 02:47 PM)Harte Wrote: No law was changed, and no executive order changed anything about the law.
You really don't know anything at all about it, but that doesn't keep you from pretending you do.
Harte
It is apparent you don't know what you are talking about when laws are ignored by trying to circumvent them. It may not be changing the law, but it is not following the law.
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" A federal appeals court ruled that President Donald Trump attempted to circumvent immigration laws by issuing an executive order that suspended asylum access at the southern border. On April 24, 2026, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit blocked this order, stating that the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) does not authorize the president to bypass mandatory asylum procedures or remove individuals under "procedures of his own making."
The three-judge panel concluded that while the president has the power to suspend entry via proclamation, this authority does not implicitly override the INA’s requirements for adjudicating anti-torture claims and allowing individuals to apply for asylum. The White House defended the action as lawful, but the ruling affirms that the president cannot unilaterally strip migrants of their statutory right to seek asylum at the border." (LLM)
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/sto...ower-court
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(05-21-2026, 02:53 PM)Harte Wrote: The US is not a party to any international law agreement.
Harte
Is the USA not a member of the United Nations? Geneva Convention is not a thing now?
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(05-21-2026, 02:53 PM)Harte Wrote: The US is not a party to any international law agreement.
Harte
America should go back to building impressive, beautiful, big things imho, Harte.
The fourth reich impression is not a good look.
You don't need Cuba but you do need integrity and trust...
"Yet so it is, we see the illiterate bulk of mankind that walk the high-road of plain common sense, and are governed by the dictates of nature, for the most part easy and undisturbed. To them nothing that is familiar appears unaccountable or difficult to comprehend."
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(05-21-2026, 03:36 PM)andy06shake Wrote: America should go back to building impressive, beautiful, big things imho, Harte.
The fourth reich impression is not a good look.
You don't need Cuba but you do need integrity and trust...
Come the November midterm voting, that sort of corrupt power, hopefully, will be reined in.
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(05-21-2026, 03:00 PM)quintessentone Wrote: It is apparent you don't know what you are talking about when laws are ignored by trying to circumvent them. It may not be changing the law, but it is not following the law.
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"A federal appeals court ruled that President Donald Trump attempted to circumvent immigration laws by issuing an executive order that suspended asylum access at the southern border. On April 24, 2026, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit blocked this order, stating that the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) does not authorize the president to bypass mandatory asylum procedures or remove individuals under "procedures of his own making."
The three-judge panel concluded that while the president has the power to suspend entry via proclamation, this authority does not implicitly override the INA’s requirements for adjudicating anti-torture claims and allowing individuals to apply for asylum. The White House defended the action as lawful, but the ruling affirms that the president cannot unilaterally strip migrants of their statutory right to seek asylum at the border." (LLM)
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/sto...ower-court
from that article:"The administration can ask the full appeals court to reconsider the ruling or go to the Supreme Court.
The order doesn’t formally take effect until after the court considers any request to reconsider."
Any updates from the Courts yet?
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(05-21-2026, 03:40 PM)quintessentone Wrote: Come the November midterm voting, that sort of corrupt power, hopefully, will be reined in.
The Supreme Court has made that slightly less likely, depending how much redistricting in southern states gets finalized.
Quote:When a president's job approval rating is below 50% ahead of a midterm election, the president's party loses an average of 33 to 37 seats in the House of Representatives.
They're trying to pull Orban shit to hold the trifecta (IMO), but I dont think they have even 30. With a sub 40% approval in can go up even more seats That's average, but it will be ridiculously close for what his ratings say the midterm results should be...
That it's even an unknown is the off part. His ratings may only be going one way, but i don't doubt anything miraculously working out for him from any disadvantage.
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I enjoy this entire gerrymandering drama.
It has exposed the left for the segregationists that they are.
And the ultimate irony, they STILL think that people with certain skin colors think and vote the same way.
How racist is that!
You must develop the ability to be disliked in order to free yourself from the prison of other people's opinions.
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