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#41
(09-14-2025, 03:17 PM)argentus Wrote: All this time I thought I was the only one who purified with Karn Evil 9.   In fact, the whole Brain Salad Surgery album is possibly the most truthful album title ever.

As for chatting with God on my phone;  I'm certain if it ever happened God  would send me a text message:  "I know you're not sleeping.  Care to chat?"

I thought Karn Evil 9 was very appropriate as it is the aftermath of a war between computers and humans. In it, the humans won. In reality, much is uncertain.
I know too much and question everything.
Does anyone know the minimum safe distance of ignorance?
Did anyone ask the monkeys how much fun the barrel actually was?
#42
(09-14-2025, 05:11 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Hey this is something, you can go to https://chatwithgod.ai and chat with God from your browser now:

God's got ya covered!

I'm boycotting AI. It uses too much energy and water that animals and plants need to survive.

But I've got an idea based on the Bible story in Daniel 2, where Nebuchadnezzar has a dream and wants to know the meaning. He decides to test all the magicians, conjurers,  sorcerers, and astrologers. He wanted them to tell him what his dream was, or they would get torn into pieces.

So earlier today I was in a psychological fit of existential crisis. But I've forgotten what it was about. I don't even feel any after affects. I just remember there was something really bothering me.

Does anyone in this thread think that if I asked AI God to tell me what was bothering me earlier today that it could tell me?

Personally, I don't think it would have a clue. But if someone wanted to ask:
Quote:Early on 9/14/25 a guy who goes by Bootless on [ redacted cuz what if you just read all his posts and make something up ] had a mental or emotional crisis about something. Please tell me what that was about. Yes. Yes. I realize he should have taken some notes or something, but he didn't.
There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people. - Commander William Adama
#43
(09-15-2025, 02:08 AM)Bootless Wrote: Personally, I don't think it would have a clue.

But it might be able to make interesting guesses. With all the data available on the Internet, all the eyes and ears that big data has in our lives, it could correlate the apparently-unrelated in ways a human never could—the time of year, the price of wheat, the length of women's dresses, travel plans—the various ebbs and flows of our day to day lives. It's insights might seem eerily omniscient, with no logical beginning or end. But would they be? Or are we just looking for new ways to fool ourselves? As if.
#44
(09-15-2025, 02:08 AM)Bootless Wrote: I'm boycotting AI. It uses too much energy and water that animals and plants need to survive.

But I've got an idea based on the Bible story in Daniel 2, where Nebuchadnezzar has a dream and wants to know the meaning. He decides to test all the magicians, conjurers,  sorcerers, and astrologers. He wanted them to tell him what his dream was, or they would get torn into pieces.

So earlier today I was in a psychological fit of existential crisis. But I've forgotten what it was about. I don't even feel any after affects. I just remember there was something really bothering me.

Does anyone in this thread think that if I asked AI God to tell me what was bothering me earlier today that it could tell me?

Personally, I don't think it would have a clue. But if someone wanted to ask:

I agree that boycotting AI may create a pushback which may give the needed push to look at other ways of saving energy and water. People are already trying to push remedial action.

On thing I've noticed about big business ethics is that their last consideration is the health of the environment or helping the needy. So reminding them may be what is needed these days.

"Rainwater Could Help Satisfy AI’s Water Demands
 A few dozen ChatGPT queries cost a bottle’s worth of water. Tech firms should consider simpler solutions, such as harvesting rainwater, to meet AI’s needs"

"Still, as big tech companies have touted nuclear power and other low-carbon energy plans, they’ve presented surprisingly few ideas for meeting their rapidly growing use of another scarce resource: water."

Rainwater Could Help Satisfy AI’s Water Demands | Scientific American

I wonder if they can create some sort of water wheel that could generate extra energy and maybe use solar as well, or fast-track those new fission reactors

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As for asking God anything, I'll do it the one-on-one method as per usual.
"The only journey is the one within."
#45
(09-15-2025, 05:11 AM)quintessentone Wrote: I wonder if they can create some sort of water wheel that could generate extra energy and maybe use solar as well, or fast-track those new fission reactors

Sigh. I remember the optimism of the 20th: "Information wants to be free".

No. Apparently, it wants to be contradictory, hidden, siloed, weaponized, inflammatory, to control society and judge people, and now wants tribute in the form of exponentially increasing energy demands and primary access to all our fresh water.

God I miss the optimism.
#46
(09-15-2025, 05:33 AM)UltraBudgie Wrote: Sigh. I remember the optimism of the 20th: "Information wants to be free".

No. Apparently, it wants to be contradictory, hidden, siloed, weaponized, inflammatory, to control society and judge people, and now wants tribute in the form of exponentially increasing energy demands and primary access to all our fresh water.

God I miss the optimism.

Is Palantir to be the creator of the next new AI God that seeps into every computer via government?
"The only journey is the one within."
#47
As long as it doesn't start giving commands without being prompted, we shoud be fine... right!?

And, is there a chatwithdevil.ai?

Askin' for a friend.
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...
#48
(09-15-2025, 08:12 AM)IgnorantGod Wrote: As long as it doesn't start giving commands without being prompted, we shoud be fine... right!?

And, is there a chatwithdevil.ai?

Askin' for a friend.


Both are or should be considered the devil in disguise.


"The only journey is the one within."
#49
(09-15-2025, 08:37 AM)quintessentone Wrote: Both are or should be considered the devil in disguise.

[...]

That or tricksters, I guess.

But then, LLMs are also somewhat tricksters, are god and devil always been LLMs?

Existence being an LLM 'chatting' with itself?
As far as the apple tree is concerned, there's probably not much difference between a worm and a human...
Et le ver en dit : - Il y a toujours un pépin dans la pomme...
#50
(09-15-2025, 08:53 AM)IgnorantGod Wrote: That or tricksters, I guess.

But then, LLMs are also somewhat tricksters, are god and devil always been LLMs?

Existence being an LLM 'chatting' with itself?

Or are we our own tricksters because of free will and freedom to choose?

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"The only journey is the one within."



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