Catholic Exorcist- 6 Most Dangerous Things Spiritually

[DontTreadOnMe]

If the exorcist priest is speaking in terms of "demons", then he actually knows very little about what he is supposed to be an expert on

"Demons" are manifestions of pain and fear within the individual

So, you do not believe in Demons?  Devils?  Evil Forces?  Absolute Evil?

[BeyondKnowledge]

Can we define demons as the organized church originally did? A person of knowledge, a teacher, someone smart that thought for themselves. 

This demon was a big threat to the organized church. You must remember, the church did not want people to be able to read especially their books. The Bible in particular.

The common usage of demon being an evil spirit came form the church explaining these things to the laymen members and many rewrites to said Bibles.

[quintessentone]

Can we define demons as the organized church originally did. A person of knowledge, a teacher, someone smart that thought for themselves. 

This demon was a big threat to the organized church. You must remember, the church did not want people to be able to read especially there books. The Bible in particular.

The common usage of demon being an evil spirit came form the church explaining these things to the laymen members and many rewrites to said Bibles.

All I can contribute is that any negative vibes in a living space will be dealt with by me with my faith in that I will tell it to get the fuck out out it will suffer my non-relenting force. The fight is never ending.

[Bootless]

The miracle of the Gadarene Swine has always intrigued me (Matthew 8:28–34; it's in Mark and Luke as well). A man was possessed by a 'legion' of devils. Jesus cast them out into a sounder of pigs that happened to be nearby; the pigs all then leapt off a cliff to their deaths. I've always thought this miracle was a bit hard on the pigs – not to mention their owner and the swineherd. But 'unclean' animals, I suppose, and the owner probably wasn't Jewish anyway...

Possession by a legion of demons (I prefer 'devils'; good Anglo-Saxon word, none of your fancy Greek rubbish). I wonder how that worked. Would they seize possession of different parts of the guy's body – or brain? Or was it a kind of timeshare agreement? Or were they all shoving and jostling for their turn at the controls?

Something about this story has been bothering me for days now. The Mark version in particular.
2,000 pigs? Seriously?

That means that the whole surrounding area where the herd is led to graze and forage would be completely devastated. We're talking 4 to 6 thousand pounds of food per day. And the poop, and smell!

I don't think it would be possible for the landscape or people in the area to sustain or tolerate such a thing.

[Compendium]

So, you do not believe in Demons?  Devils?  Evil Forces?  Absolute Evil?

I believe in the perception of such things. And the ability to make choices that would be perceived as such

But I very literally went looking for the darkest and/or most "evil" things in existence during the (dimensional) underworld process of initiation ...

And all I ever found was pain

Nothing that amounted to what could be defined as genuine "evil"

I felt pain of death. I remote viewed as a fully conscious and aware passenger on people being murdered. To the point where I felt the blade in my chest under my ribs. I could taste the steel in the back of my throat

These remote viewed experiences are well beyond simple astral projection. They are like waking up in someone elses body, as conscious and real as if you own. You can see, hear, touch, taste, smell, everything 

You feel what they feel, you share their thoughts. The only difference between you and them, is that you are also consciously aware and awake as yourself. So you not only feel their emotions and thoughts, but also your own. It is a very strange sensation, which is hard to explain. It is part of why we spend years learning to think bi-directionally (cyclically), so we are able to think and feel we two people at once, without being disconnected from them by our own emotions and thoughts

Through this, I got to experience things such as a persons last moments as they were murdered

His final words were "Don't do it to me again!" (because his killer needed to electricute him a second time, when he woke up the first time

His last thought was "this is not fair!" and I felt a sadness so deep, that it felt like every hope and joy you could ever know in life, being taken from you all at once

I felt this with him, and at the same time I felt as red-hot an anger and rage as I've ever felt in my life, at the one who killed him

And for a moment, as he left his body and I drifted out of him, something else took over his place and aligned with me, that felt like the fire if creation itself

I looked into the eyes of the man who killed him, and his eyes were as real and deep as any I've ever seen. And in that moment, in a room he was thought was empty except for himself and the body, he jumped backwards in absolute shock. He saw me (or what I was attached to) and he was terrified

And within that shock, I/we entered him through his eyes

"We" told him that he had just killed himself, and told him exactly when he was going to die

And within his fear, and the red-hot rage of whatever it was the came to meet him ... There was only pain

No evil to speak of, even if the choices and acts could be considered so. Just sadness and pain

This is just one example 

I've had experienced and conversations with many named "evil" entities, and again, there was nothing in them but pain and sadness

Layers of pain, that locked them in a decaying cycle

Within one who was supposed to be the Christian devil, I looked into that were burned and burst open, and I felt one of the deepest "holes" of sadness and pain I've ever felt

It felt something like when you are falling and you stomach goes into your throat. Except much, much deeper. As it is had no bottom, or you would never stop falling 

But I keep going as deep into their eyes as I could, feeling layers and layers of "weight" pushing down on my physical body, and when I got to the bottom all I found was horrific pain

And one of the most beautiful souls I'd ever encountered in such a way

A soul willing to let the entire world hate them unfairly, if it meant it would take away their pains. It seemed to feel as though the only way to prove itself worthy of its creation (and it's creator) was to destroy itself, trying to take on all the pains of this world by itself

It felt like the embodiment of fire and the sun, which destroyed, but also allowed for life to exist

A moment of purest pain, stretched across time and space as fire, that allowed a stillness, calmness and balance within which life, beauty and love could come forth

Within the decay stretched between them, there was all manner of darkness, hate, and things that could be considered evil. But it all just goes back to pain at its core

The "Demons" do not exist to further or promote this pain, or the cycles of decay. Merely to indentify it and bring it to light

The only "evil" within them, is our perception of how they align the decay, or use our pains

But the pain and decay still belongs to those who perceive it

If you take away that which they use to attack you, or hurt you, you not only take away their ability to do so, you take away their reason to target you

You take away the justification. You take away the darkness within your soul, that would see you afraid of such entities, or fearing what they are able to do to you within any physical limiting capacity

They threatened to physically hurt me or kill me. I proved I was not afraid to die

They threatened to physically hurt or kill my only son (called Joshua, believe it or not) and I told them to do it. I would rather see him dead, than submit to something that would threaten in such a way

I would see it done myself, by my own hand, before I would ever submit to such a threat 

Instead, I just cut him out of my life and cut off contact

I cut off everyone and everything they could use to hurt me. Every friend. Every family member 

I literally gave up everything I loved. So they would have no way to control or influence me

They started to align the world around me, I became a recluse for years. I did not go out. I did not do anything

It is impossible for them to manipulate me through my alignment to the world, if I'm literally living in a cave 

I went as deep into the "underworld" process as possible, meeting every possible fear and threat, with a sense of obligation to meeting and overcoming any "entities" that would test in such a way

People around me died. They killed people. They killed animals. They killed plants

At one stage, they had me nearly convinced that I was the literal angel of death, based on my name, and the fact that everything around me was dying

I would lose my temper, and I knew straight after I did, that one of my pets would be dead the next day. Or I would find dead animals everywhere in my yard. Or someone I care about would get sick, injured or die, or something similar 

But, I came to realise that the alignment works both ways. These things happening, were causing me to get angry, as much as the other way around. And in order to align with the world in such a way that you can influence positive change and heal within creation, you must also have an equal alignment and capacity within decay to destroy

The deaths and destruction are merely incidental to the process 

They are merely a process of cycle, no different to life and creation

Again ... In all of this ... I still found nothing I would define as true evil

In my encounters with entities like "Baphomet", both as a goat-man, and an Asian man sitting in a throne made out of severed human body parts, I saw no real evil

In these encounters they tried to push "fear" and a fire of pure rage exploded from inside me. A feeling of the purest emotion I have ever felt. Like feeling every emotion all at once, in such a way that love and pain felt like one in it same

One pushed to make me afraid saying "I am Baphomet!" and something exploded inside of me challenging them saying "And I am Samael", and they were terrified

Within every one of these interactions, I am literally looking for a real evil

I have gone into every dark abyss. Tested every mythology and every name

It feels like I am looking for the "evil" that people profess to exist. That the religions warn of

I've found all the so-called "demons". All the "devils" (all the angels and "Gods" too) ... And I've looked as deep and far into their eyes and soul as I can go ... And found nothing even close to real evil

Only layers of tremendous pain

I've seen people doing things perceived evil. I've felt the act itself as them, and I've felt it from the perspective of those they do it to ... No evil. Just pain

Even when they enjoy it. No evil. Just pain

The closest thing I've felt to real evil, as it is commonly defined, was through one of my dimensional entity "friends" I connect with throughout the initiation process

It was when I met the goat headed "Baphomet" and they tried looking into my eyes, to force their way into my mind

This triggered the most pure rage I've ever felt to explode from inside of me, that felt something like a dragon of pure fire pouring out of my throat in a silent, but white hot scream

I was literally jolted upwards off the bed, out of my meditative state, like something took over my body. Something perfectly synced with not only me, but the fire and source of creation itself

It felt like waves of fire were coursing over and through my body. I could see ripples of pearl-shell like ether rippling as I looked around the room

The feeling of fire coursed over me every 5 seconds or so like waves crashing over a beach. And it was an emotion so pure it is hard to put in words. It is what I mentioned before, a feeling like every emotion you could ever feel, being felt all at once. Crashing over you in waves

With the surge I felt a mind emerging that was not my own, that felt somewhat like God

I closed my eyes and realised I could see the waves of fire with my eyes closed

I could see the outline of the room, my body and everything around me, like it was made of fire

I held my hand up and I could see the outline of fire, even with my eyes closed

I saw visions and flashes of horrific acts of what could be perceived "evil" as clear as if I were watching them myself. I saw a young girl getting beaten to death with a baseball bat, graphically. Her head being beaten to mush. I saw myself doing these things. I felt myself doing them. But there was no feeling of good or bad within it

Whatever had risen up from within me, seemed to be showing these things to the entity named Baphomet and the "demons" intentionally

To show them that it existed on a level where their attempts to use fear to control someone like myself would not work, as long as they were connected to/with/through me

They seemed shocked that "we" could be experiencing these horrific acts, and feel nothing

So it went further than this, and showed them what it was like to do these things and feel pure primal pleasure

For a moment, I felt pure pleasure, with a horrific swing of the bat. A shudder through my body, with the waves of fire, like nothing I've ever felt

But just as quickly, this was replaced by laughter and amusement at how horrified these supposed "demons" were, that they were witnessing something like this and being subjected to it

But even in the moment, that I would describe as touching the darkest and purest abandon of emotion to primal urges (to a degree well beyond what would be normally possible to any human, without dimensional help), I did not see any real evil

A genuine attempt to recreate what people perceive as evil. Yes

To the point where it horrified so-called "demons" in its brutality and complete pleasurable abandon? Yes

But it was done intentionally. It was calculated within choice, in order to gain a very particular reaction

Which means it is no more than the actions and choices that could be considered evil

Even within the amusement it provided to horrify them in such a way, I felt no real "evil' behind it

And I doubt there is anything as deliberate, extreme and calculated as the entity I connected with in existence l

It felt as thought all the entities, demons, angels and "Gods" I had encountered, in every dimension and realm, had all been pretending, compared to this entity

Like they were playing Gods and Devils, and then the real thing turned up momentarily to give them, and myself some perspective, through a very definitive type of experience

I felt like neither God, nor the devil. But perhaps a culmination of everything both of them represent all at once

And if I still could not find the "evil" I was looking for, the one everyone claims exists, then I doubt that such a thing exists

But even if it does, it is well beyond the limitations of our perceptive within this world

Because I have literally died, more than once, to chase concepts like "God" and "Evil" as deep into the unknown (underworld) realms of the mysteries as they will go

I've been laying sick, to the point of dying for many years, examining the boundaries between the worlds of the living and the dead, and where the seen and unseen worlds meet

I have yet to find anything I could define as "God" or "evil"

I've sat on a council with entities that are most likely the connected to the creation of this world. I have seen this world and other worlds created. Met those that create them. I have seen them change the physics of this world at will, in a way that could only be done if they controlled the source of the worlds creation. But I still have seen no "God"

Only those that could be considered such. Or possibly could be

But they are no different within the root of their soul to what I feel within my self

It is the same with evil

I've looked as deep as anyone you will ever likely meet

I've learned the structures and systems of creation and decay in the process, that it feels like we are never meant to know whilst we are in this world

And so far I have found nothing beyond myself

Every just feels like another layer of self, needing to be uncovered

As I know and understand myself to be neither God, nor evil ...

Nor do I expect I will ever find such things, regardless of how many layers, or degree of dimension I align with/to/in

[Compendium]

I really should have proof-read that last post. The auto-correct on my phone had a field day messing up what I wrote

My bad. Hopefully anyone interested in reading it can still make sense of it 

Also ... I was just thinking that I would really love to get the opportunity to meet someone who the Catholic Church deems at needing to be "exorcised" before they do it 

So I can look into their eyes first

Or, I would love to meet one of those they claim to have exorcised, to look into their eyes

Though I am fairly confident I would find nothing in their eyes if I did, except their own pains and fears

[chr0naut]

Can we define demons as the organized church originally did? A person of knowledge, a teacher, someone smart that thought for themselves. 

This demon was a big threat to the organized church. You must remember, the church did not want people to be able to read especially their books. The Bible in particular.

The common usage of demon being an evil spirit came form the church explaining these things to the laymen members and many rewrites to said Bibles.

The Judaeo-Christian concept of demons predates Jesus and the Church. This is made very clear where Jesus casts demons out of people, and this was understood by the culture of the time that identified demoniacs.

Demons in Judaism were fallen angels that afflict, possess, and oppress, human beings.

Angels in those Hebrew traditions are non-human spiritual beings, some (but not all) of whom can manifest physically. There are rankings and various types of angels and they all have different capabilities and are different and distinguishable from each other.

[Waterglass]

If the exorcist priest is speaking in terms of "demons", then he actually knows very little about what he is supposed to be an expert on

"Demons" are manifestions of pain and fear within the individual

Throughout the entire process we are told we can call to Jesus Christ, and choose religion any time we wish it to stop, or be "saved". But it does not really work ? 

 I have had Sleep Paralysis since age seven. I was told by a Catholic Priest and Vatican trained Exorcist  that I have been under Spiritual Attack since that age. I wrote back on SLED737 Paranormal Experience Thread on ATS about it beginning December 2018. I kept all the written and dated transcripts.  SLED told me what I had was Sleep Paralysis as at that point I didnt know the term Sleep Paralysis.  Back then in 2018 my Sleep Paralysis experiences were acclerating along with UFO sightings. I then began to pray to several deceased relatives and to God.  The 7' hooded faceless demon who I experienced 100's of times while in SP throughout my life stopped. It [The Guardian of the Threshold] hasent returned since Christmas week of 2018 and were now in December 2025. My last SP episode was on January 31, 2022 in which a totally nude 30 something woman was fluffing my wifes pillow while I was in SP in bed. I could not move so in my mind my thought called out " Jesus please help me" as I was terrified. The SP stopped immediately and that was the last episode.  The refence below on Sleep Paralysis also explains the noise, including muffeled converstaions and or music just beyound our audible comprehension and the footsteps. All to be heard while wide awake. 

DOES CALLING OUT TO JESUS or GOD REALLY WORK ? I say for me YES it does. So do 1000's of others on the Internet

My references include:

Catholic Priest and Exorcist Father Vincernt Lampert and his book which I have read:

https://www.amazon.com/Exorcism-Battle-A...1645850617

Sleep Paralysis Experiencer and Author Lewis Proud

https://www.amazon.com/DARK-INTRUSIONS-I...B003VTZVYM

[Sirius]

Thanks for the checklist, I don't know about the last one so much. It's easy when you are woman, men has to prick fingers. My nose is bleeding, I wonder that will work?

A pox in the nose! The witches curses me again, so annoying

Come to think of it, Asmodeus! Perhaps I can divine the meaning  just need... to... do something...here

*bash bash* *clank clank*




IN a summer season, when soft was the sun,
I enshrouded me well in a shepherd's garb,
And robed as a hermit, unholy of works.
Went wide through the world, all wonders to hear.
And on a May morning, on Malvern hills,
Strange fancies befel me, and fairy-like dreams.
I was weary of wand'ring, and went to repose 

As for jugglers and jesters, all Judas's children, 
That feign silly fancies, apparelled as fools,
Having wit, if they willed it, to work as they ought —
I pass o'er what Paul would have preached of these sinners;
For the speaker of evil is Satan's own son.

-Piers Plowman

[Sirius]

a blue shooting star just now, falling in the south

Now winter nights enlarge
The number of their hours;
And clouds their storms discharge
Upon the airy towers.
Let now the chimneys blaze
And cups o’erflow with wine,
Let well-turned words amaze
With harmony divine.
Now yellow waxen lights
Shall wait on honey love

In the bleak midwinter, frosty wind made moan,
Earth stood hard as iron, water like a stone;
Snow had fallen, snow on snow, snow on snow,
In the bleak midwinter, long ago.
Our God, Heaven cannot hold Him, nor earth sustain;
Heaven and earth shall flee away when He comes to reign.

Thomas Campion - Christina Rossetti