Canada's RCMP traditional views = potential Radical Extremist

[putnam6]

Canada's RCMP traditional views = potential Radical Extremist

Is this what happens when persistent political pandering poisons police and law enforcement policy? 

Im just asking, I do not know, and Im not going to pretend I do. 

Always wanted to visit Canada, the Nahanni National Park Reserve specifically, but I have traditional values. 
 






In Canada if you hold traditional values the police now consider you am 'Radical Extremist

Concerned Citizen
@BGatesIsaPyscho
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Meanwhile in Canada

Canadian Police:- "The radicalisation in general - If people express traditional values, then that might be a sign, they are becoming an extremist"



Wait, what? In Canada if you hold traditional values the police now consider you am 'Radical Extremist'⁉️

[Tecate]

Awesome!! I have always wanted to belong to some group, a place to hang my hat if you will!!

The Canada that I live in does unfortunately have radical extremism, traditional values and now mass school shootings. But I blame the internet. I grew up with quite a few people that we knew were different that came out of the closet after school. Meh, good for them. Not one of them came to school blasting away, because they weren’t being radicalized by some group on the web.

I am not saying that people had it easy, there’s bullies and assholes in every stage of life, but traditional values to me include respect and equality for all others. It’s the right way to be and it was how we were taught.

Lead by example, do what is right and go your own way. It really is not that hard.

Meh, as usual, my 2 pesos…

Tecate

[UltraBudgie]

That park looks beautiful and I hope you get to visit some day.

Now I want to go some time too! Thanks for highlighting it.

https://parks.canada.ca/pn-np/nt/nahanni

[Tecate]

The North West Territories are beautiful. Raw, untouched land with all kinds of wildlife.

An amazing experience for sure! Even in the winter. Just remember bug stuff in the summer, the black flies will eat you alive! Ha! Not kidding at all.


Tecate

[DBCowboy]

Canada's RCMP traditional views = potential Radical Extremist

Is this what happens when persistent political pandering poisons police and law enforcement policy? 

Im just asking, I do not know, and Im not going to pretend I do. 

Always wanted to visit Canada, the Nahanni National Park Reserve specifically, but I have traditional values. 
 


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In Canada if you hold traditional values the police now consider you am 'Radical Extremist

Trying to wrap my head around this.

How can traditional values be considered "extremist"?

The only want is to have a majority discard traditional values for "new" values.

And while these "new" values aren't really "new" at all, those that enshroud themselves with these "new" values are really just changing the wording and definitions.

It's no longer communism or collectivism, instead, it's called "new" values.

[putnam6]

Yeah, if you aren't feeling a topic, it's okay, you don't have to comment... It's Saturday and Im just enjoying the springish weather... 

Isn't it likely that less political influence on law enforcement from both the executive and legislative branches may lead to better overall law enforcement performance?

In America, we are caught in a conservative/liberal back and forth, while Canada gets softer and softer  

Politicians without law enforcement experience are influencing law enforcement policy, both sides

What are the short-term and long-term effects of crime and punishment within such an environment?

We already know the left doesn't appreciate some of the Trump administration's approaches to law enforcement. 

Uncle Sam has already seen where progressive policies like cashless bail "do not work," etc. Canada's been doing this for years. Is Canada safer or less safe with the overt progressive policies? The RCMP were always championed because of thier professionalism.

Furthermore, why promote this publicly? It would be more effective to keep this internally, by promoting it publicly, wouldn't it make all those nasty right-wing extremists terrorizing the canucks more stealthy and less
obvious now that Dudley Do-Right is clued in.

Announcing it publically it feels like legitimizing socio-political terraforming because it's presented by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, aka making Dudley dance for one political party, and if there are significant 
right-wing extremist groups in Canada are now likely to become more incognito.



Locally, there was no problem for a much-needed law enforcement training facility planned and approved politically, for over a year, everyone knew the cost and where it was to be built. But then the contractors to clear the land needed to move a smallish homeless camp, and then it became a fascist police academy, delayed for years by state and national progressive groups, when the majority of locals were for the project.

Delays added 31 million to the project, for what progressive political style points? 

https://www.police1.com/police-training/...er-4-years

February 13, 2026 10:39 AMThe center, first approved by the Atlanta City Council in September 2021, has faced sustained opposition since its inception, according to the report. Environmental advocates have criticized the development’s location in a forested area of southeast
Atlanta, warning of potential ecological damage and negative impacts on nearby communities.
The announcement and building of the center has been met with protests and even with violence and arson. Protesters cited negative environmental impacts and “police militarization” as reasons for the pushback.
The project has also been marred by intense protest activity, which city officials say added roughly $20 million to the overall cost. In August 2023, Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr indicted 61 people under the state’s anti-racketeering statute, describing them as “militant anarchists” seeking to stop the facility’s construction. Several were previously arrested on domestic terrorism charges.
The Atlanta City Council approved an additional $31 million in funding for the project in June 2023.

[IdeomotorPrisoner]

Full Context of the June 2025 comment:

1. The Context: The Quebec Investigation

• The Incident: The comments were made in the wake of an RCMP operation in Quebec where four people, including individuals with ties to the military, were charged in connection to an alleged "ideologically motivated violent extremism" (IMVE) plot.

• The Warning: When asked what the public should look for regarding radicalization, Staff Sgt. Habel cited changes in behavior. She stated: "If someone you know believed in equal gender rights but all of a sudden is leaning towards, like, traditional values and that might be a sign that they're becoming more extremist".

• The Definition: The RCMP, in their follow-up, characterized this not as a blanket indictment of all traditional believers, but as one potential indicator of a sudden, observed change in behavior, along with anti-authority or anti-government sentiments. 

2. The Reaction and Controversy

• Backlash: The comments sparked immediate outrage from conservative politicians and commentators. People's Party of Canada Leader Maxime Bernier mocked the statement, arguing that the national police force was labeling the upholding of traditional, Christian, or family-focused values as a precursor to terrorism.

• Concerns over Ideological Alignment: Critics argued that the RCMP was shifting from a neutral law enforcement agency to one that enforces a specific "progressive" ideology, treating dissent or a return to traditional, religious, or conservative, social values as a sign of dangerous deviance. 


3. The Official Clarification

Following the backlash, the RCMP worked to clarify the remarks, stating they were "in no way implying that embracing traditional values makes an individual radical or extreme". 

• The Clarification: The RCMP stated it was the sudden, intense shift toward adopting beliefs that include the toleration of violence to achieve goals that they are monitoring, rather than the peaceful holding of traditional values.

• Focus on Behavior: They emphasized that each case is examined individually, and they are looking at indicators of violent, anti-government, or anti-authoritarianism, not just personal ideology. 

This is being media-recycled in response to the shooting and the tragic way those comments have aged. 

She's already been through the conservative Canadian wringer for this.  Already had to backtrack and clarify and do the foot in mouth thing.

Soooo... how do you find the "sudden shift in political opinion" in this climate?

On the left:

So many have shifted like a CA.Gov ALL-CAPS press release, and the left is so prone to protest, it's harder to find the one life-long conservative Utah boy that "suddenly shifts" to extreme left-wing martyrdom.

On the right:

There really is a cultural meme of not breaking the law with conservatives. The "warning signs" on the right have always preferred reinforced compounds, arsenals, and are paranoid of government.  And mostly, they just constitutionally reinforce their compounds and are paranoid of government.  Which only occasionally require federal intervention.

So this is where (The RCMP) comment is useful:

Some of the ones that commit radicalized crime from the right-wing opinion, are increasingly likely to have "rapidly shifted" from the left recently. 

I really shouldn't be the one to figure out how this all can work in the right's favor....

[putnam6]

Full Context of the June 2025 comment:

This is being media-recycled in response to the shooting and the tragic way those comments have aged. 

She's already been through the conservative Canadian wringer for this.  Already had to backtrack and clarify and do the foot in mouth thing.

Soooo... how do you find the "sudden shift in political opinion" in this climate?

On the left:

So many have shifted like a CA.Gov ALL-CAPS press release, and the left is so prone to protest, it's harder to find the one life-long conservative Utah boy that "suddenly shifts" to extreme left-wing martyrdom.

On the right:

There really is a cultural meme of not breaking the law with conservatives. The "warning signs" on the right have always preferred reinforced compounds, arsenals, and are paranoid of government.  And mostly, they just constitutionally reinforce their compounds and are paranoid of government.  Which only occasionally require federal intervention.

So this is where (The RCMP) comment is useful:

Some of the ones that commit radicalized crime from the right-wing opinion, are increasingly likely to have "rapidly shifted" from the left recently. 

I really shouldn't be the one to figure out how this all can work in the right's favor....

Well, bless thier little pea-picking hearts, the RCMP is being slapped back into reality by Canadian public sentiment, a sentiment that should have been readily apparent to the RCMP and any PUBLIC service department. The RCMP was pandering for who controls thier funding at best


2 Americans arguing about Canada might rile the canucks on DI

Maybe Im not framing my position well enough, Im not arguing, just bored thinking and texting, and I'll try not to let our exchange get censored this time

I prefer law enforcement not be unduly influenced by any party (Republican or Democrat), just because I post the left's attempts doesn't mean I agree or support all of the right's attempts at undue influence either.

Law enforcement is difficult enough as it is. The burning and churning through different types of officers' training, methods, and procedures every 4 years at the base level lowers department efficiency and morale.

The police training center in question is for decidedly liberal Atlanta; it's not an arsenal or compound, its a training center; it was legislated on, approved, and financed by one of the bluest counties in the state, if not the southeast, and it still draws the ire of leftist extremists?

It makes absolutely no sense.


Party politicians can write laws and approve financing, but they should not micromanage law enforcement polices and procedures, especially ones that would be more LE useful internally.

Imagine the opposing slant read on the CBC

• The Warning: When asked what the public should look for regarding radicalization, Staff Sgt. Habel cited changes in behavior. She stated: "If someone you know believed in traditional conservative values but all of a sudden is leaning towards, like, LGBTQ+ values, and that might be a sign that they're becoming more extremist".