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[Kwaka]

Governments around the world couldn't win either way. After China started forcibly locking swathes of it's country into their homes, Covid looked highly contagious.  If they had done nothing and lots more people died from covid, the same people complaining now would be same people complaining the governments had left us to die and was part of some conspiracy to depopulate the world.

No. One place government conspired was in the suppression of well known safe and effective treatments. HCQ, and Ivermectin had big psychological campaigns to discredit them. Even more simple things like Vitamin D, Zinc and Quercitin (Tonic Water) had no public health support and education.

All this was done was to promote expensive treatments like Remdesiver and hold the door open of the Emergency Use Authorization as no available treatments where politically acknowledged. Even though the evidence is beyond reasonable doubt that treatments do exist.

Another conspiratorial benefit in suppressing safe and available treatments was to increase all the public fear, ignorance and frustrations with lock downs to enhance the force and cohesion of an experimental therapy.

It is not just the death rate, that does appear to be increasing from the data I have seen over the years. It is also all the increased disability and injury going on from this new experimental therapy.

[Kurokage]

Death rates are not massively increasing, there's absolutely no evidence for it.

And to add the jury is still out on the effectiveness of most of the alternate treatments you've listed and thats putting it nicely, though some have shown some use.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...4024036788

Our meta-analysis included thirty-three RCTs (n = 10,489), which comprehensively reviewed the evidence on IVM treatment of patients with COVID-19 up to June 22, 2023 and showed that IVM did not have an effect in reducing the risk of mortality in patients with COVID-19. 

[Kwaka]

And to add the jury is still out on the effectiveness of most of the alternate treatments you've listed and thats putting it nicely, though some have shown some use.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...4024036788

That study concludes that Ivermectin can work without increasing other risks. If that is not a big enough meta study for you, try this one: c19ivm.org

What is the best the mRNA gets? It does not stop infection or transmission. Fauci said it could save two days on an covid hospital admission. How are things looking with all the other risks involved? Not good from here.

Just what jury are you on? Looks like to are stuck with the likes of Dr Peter Hotez and Dr Paul Offit?

[Kurokage]

Just what jury are you on? Looks like to are stuck with the likes of Dr Peter Hotez and Dr Paul Offit?

I'm not American and I'm not on a 'jury'. just talking from my own experience and from the many people across our NHS I've spoken with and from the evidence presented other than fringe click baiters...

[Byrd]

That study concludes that Ivermectin can work without increasing other risks. If that is not a big enough meta study for you, try this one: c19ivm.org

What is the best the mRNA gets? It does not stop infection or transmission. Fauci said it could save two days on an covid hospital admission. How are things looking with all the other risks involved? Not good from here.

Just what jury are you on? Looks like to are stuck with the likes of Dr Peter Hotez and Dr Paul Offit?

I take it you didn't check the references in that "meta study"?  I did.

• The first reference isn't a study - it's a paper on an improved method of delivering ivermectin.  Nothing about Covid, treatment, double blind experiments, etc.
  
• The second is about a study that showed ivermectin MIGHT affect gut bacteria.  Nothing about Covid, etc.
  
• The third is incomplete; a partial study, and the table at the bottom seems to show that 47% of the people who got the ivermectin treatment died
  
• The 4th isn't a paper; it's the site's conclusions based on something.  There's no author, no affiliation, just a fancy looking web page. Its citation includes citing itself (not a good look on a research paper) as well as citing Twitter and other... not very scientific sources.)
  

I haven't checked their math, but at this point I'm suspicious of it.

[annonentity]

The shocking situation has got so bad that the chronic state of the general health of the USA is at a stage where a concerted government effort is required to try and remedy the situation. It would require such an effort because it is so obvious that it cannot be denied. The problem being mortality follows morbidity, The problem being one of the lack common sense in the first place in deference to profit unfortunately has no remedy except an obvious conclusion. ? #BREAKING: RFK Jr. Launches Investigation Into America’s Chronic Disease Epidemic

[Kwaka]

• The 4th isn't a paper; it's the site's conclusions based on something.  There's no author, no affiliation, just a fancy looking web page. Its citation includes citing itself (not a good look on a research paper) as well as citing Twitter and other... not very scientific sources.)
  

I don't know who the team of researches are who put together the site. It started as c19study back in early 2020, then moved to c19early. At the time everyone was freaking out over covid, this team was doing what good science does and started collecting data on potential treatments. Now they are up to following 37 different treatments for covid.

Ivermectin reduces COVID-19 risk: real-time meta analysis of 105 studies

So out of 679 references, 26 lead back to information stored on their website and 58 go to twitter. A lot of published paper are also included as well as a lot of other various links around the internet. In this day and age, I am more concerned about what the information says rather than where it is hosted.

With the Dr Anthony 'I am the Science' Fauci attack on treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin that was followed up by the media, I don't expect this kind of prejudice to change overnight.

[Kwaka]

I'm not on a 'jury'.

You are in a court of public opinion. The jurisdiction of sites like this is restricted from any direct enforcement. As for what the individual readers choose to do with their self determination is still up for grabs.

[MichSwampbuck]

The available treatments were known before anyone knew what would become of the novel pet project. Year 2005 on the 21st Century Pandemic Timeline . . .
 

Dr. Fauci’s NIH, “concentrations of 10 μM completely abolished SARS-CoV infection" . . . “chloroquine can effectively reduce the establishment of infection and spread of SARS-CoV.” February 25 . . . “it’s game over” for coronavirus. Source: One News Now and NIH Virology journal

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread . . . We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. Source: Virology Journal

Dead Drop Zero

There are also other alternative treatments that surfaced around the time the vaccine came out . . .

Biological - SARS-CoV-2 - Medical Treatments
Sun 31 Jan 2021 - 23:25
Subject: Ambulatory medical treatment for COVID-19 without the use of vaccines or RNA therapy.
Name of Report: Biological - SARS-CoV-2 - Medical Treatments
Description: Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection

Preface: The following report from the American Journal of Medicine, January 01, 2021, contains the medical facts on in home care and treatment of COVID-19.

DDZ Link

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[Kwaka]

 If you decide I have over stepped my bounds,

No. You have done what every reasonable mind should do in the wave of insanity that hit this planet, do their homework.

Is it natural selection, greed, stupidity, alien invasion or depopulation that drove this agenda? We are still alive, keep punching. Once we stop getting out of bed, the grim reaper is near.