COVID Vaccine “Safe and Effective” Narrative Collapses on Camera

[DontTreadOnMe]

Information is now becoming mainstream that the alleged vaccine for Covid was less than safe and effective.
COVID Vaccine “Safe and Effective” Narrative Collapses on Camera

The “safe and effective” narrative collapsed on camera during Senator Ron Johnson’s explosive Senate hearing on COVID-19 vaccine injuries Wednesday afternoon.
Senator Ron Johnson brought the receipts, exposing how the Biden administration DELIBERATELY hid vaccine harms from the public.
Then Dr. James Thorp (OB-GYN) revealed miscarriage data so disturbing, it left the room silent.

Vax or don't vax.  Makes no difference to me.  And this isn't about whether or not one took the shot.

But there should always be a choice. When there is no choice, and when the information from the government or medical community is not fairly presented, there should be the ability for citizens to have recourse.

[Byrd]

By now, over 8 billion doses have been administered.  Nothing is ever completely safe.  Either we've had billions dying and not recorded... or the actual amount of harm, while real, is a thousand times less than the harm caused by getting the disease (long Covid, death, etc.)

[Kwaka]

the actual amount of harm, while real, is a thousand times less than the harm caused by getting the disease (long Covid, death, etc.)

You got a link for that? Maybe there is something to it when the only approved treatments where Remdesiver and a ventilator. How the critical care community had their options slashed in using well known safe and effective treatments did make a bad situation worst for those that did get hit hard by covid.

[annonentity]

By now, over 8 billion doses have been administered.  Nothing is ever completely safe.  Either we've had billions dying and not recorded... or the actual amount of harm, while real, is a thousand times less than the harm caused by getting the disease (long Covid, death, etc.)

  

  The information on the side effects or they could have been the main effects are starting to come out from one or two countries that have made the records publicly available. If you consider a drop in the normal birth rate in vaccinated women like a death, then there are going to be a lot less people around in the future. If the governments that mandated the vaccine to there general population are no longer reporting these statistics, then, the effects must have been well known to them and taken as a desirable outcome.
 Birth rates lower in vaccinated

[Karl12]

But there should always be a choice.

Hey remember "they never forced anyone to do anything".

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[UltraBudgie]

"Safe and Effective"

Safe for whom?
Effective at what?

They're not lying, you're just not asking the right questions....

[DontTreadOnMe]

... or the actual amount of harm, while real, is a thousand times less than the harm caused by getting the disease (long Covid, death, etc.)

Please, tell that to the millions of ruined lives since the plandemic happened.

All those people, vaxxed and unvaxxed, who struggle day to day with MCAS, POTS, ME/CFS, MS and a number of other diseases and conditions.
Tens of thousands of people. 
Some of whom don't have the energy for simple basic living.
Whose lives are ruined.
Whose families and spouses have abandoned them.

The many millions, vaxxed and unvaxxed, with "long covid" who may only be minimally affected but whose health is less than it was before SARS2 and the jabs.   Many of whom, like me, were barely sick from the actual "virus".
The babies whose lives never happened due to miscarriages caused by the vaxs.

Someone needs to be held accountable for this horror.
If not in this life, then on Judgment Day.

[Karl12]

"Safe and Effective"

Safe for whom?
Effective at what?

They're not lying, you're just not asking the right questions....

Very pertinent point mate.

Remember reading about a US Court ruling stating that 'COVID mRNA injectables are NOT vaccines' but regarding the countless 'injuries' looks like the taxpayers are the ones actually footing the bill for victim compensation due to 'legal indemnity' (so a pretty safe bet for the manufacturers).

They say history rhymes and all the 'safe and effective' BS was played out decades ago on a smaller scale.






Cheers.

[Byrd]

The system isn't letting me quote, but I do have a question for DTOM and others:  Where are these numbers coming from that say the increase in MS and so forth were caused by vaccines?  Is there a master database of people reporting harm?

The one I know of is/was maintained by the government, and it was self-reporting (I am part of the "no side effects" data in that database) and "harm" includes things like "fever" "pain on injection site" with very few reported Bad Things (not that I doubt there are Bad Things, but the number is very small and thousands of times smaller than the results of Covid.)

Now... the reason I'm asking is because a lot of other conditions are on the rise -- and rose immediately after the Affordable Care Act was passed.  People who couldn't afford to see the doctor now had insurance that allowed them to seek medical care.  Better medical care means better diagnoses.  (Now that the bill is lumbering through Congress to cut Medicaid and decrease Medicare, I expect to see "fewer" diagnoses -- not because people don't have this, but rather that they're waiting until they're so critical that they have to go to the emergency room or they die from the condition and associated complications (pneumonia.))

So...where's the DIRECT database that says "I got a shot and a month later I had MS" and a list of the diagnoses and the number of reports.  I'd like to take a look at it.


Here's the database from the self-reporting site for vaccine harm: https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html
Here's the site for applying for compensation for vaccine harm https://www.hrsa.gov/vaccine-compensation/data

AI's summary of what the data says:
CICP data for COVID-19 claims (as of May 1, 2025):

• Total COVID-19 countermeasure claims filed: 13,764.
  
• Claims alleging injuries/deaths from COVID-19 vaccines: 10,681.
  
• Claims alleging injuries/deaths from other COVID-19 countermeasures: 3,113.
  
• Claims where the countermeasure is unclear: Included within the 3,113 claims for other COVID-19 countermeasure
  

I'm not seeing "millions" of cases here.


Here's the data/report on the increase in cases/diagnoses/health seeking behavior that's associated with the ACA rollout: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8133296/

Another one https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...5X23001154

This relates to cancer, specifically, but shows (from a public database) how much of an increase there was in cancer detection after the rollout of ACA: https://ascopubs.org/doi/10.1200/JCO.201...suppl.6521

(*note:  ACA is Obamacare.)



Question:  Where does the "millions" figure come from and is it legit or is it someone grabbing data and assuming it's related?

[DontTreadOnMe]

The system isn't letting me quote, but I do have a question for DTOM and others:  Where are these numbers coming from that say the increase in MS and so forth were caused by vaccines?  Is there a master database of people reporting harm?

The database doesn't exist.   And that is a sad commentary on world-wide medicine, not just the USA.
Just like cfs was ignored in the 1970s.

There are still doctors telling patients with PEM to go out and exercise.
There are still doctors insisting the "Fatigue" is mental.  When in effect the "fatigue" is lack of energy at the cellular level...with mitochondrial damage.  And PEM can make it worse.  And yes, Byrd, PEM is a very real thing.  The stories I could tell ​​​​​​​
There are doctors still insisting that the newly bedridden are just lazy.


Look into forums for cfs and long covid.
https://batemanhornecenter.org/
https://www.cdc.gov/me-cfs/hcp/diagnosis...teria.html
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...5324002317
https://solvecfs.org/wp-content/uploads/...oolkit.pdf [pdf file]
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10663976/